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    There are many many threads, but none that really describe what to do to successfully get a Suzerain off your city. After getting two of my cities colonized from a sneak attack while away, I dove into this with everything I have and successfully got both of them back. It took 2 weeks to do so, but I did it, now you can too.

    First you really need to be in an alliance, if you aren't, find one that will take you in. If you have only one city, this will be tough to overcome, but still possible. I will start with you, the one with only one city and what you need to do.

    Single City Player
    Keep your production up, you need the resources, shutting everything down will never get you away, the Suz still gets 15 of all resources, and depending on population, gets 10% of gold too. With everything at 0%, there is still 100 production from the fields, and a small tax for gold. Another thing to consider, you have a protector now, he has to do all your defences for your city, so it isnt too bad a deal. You could declare war on a much larger player, and have that player attack you, in which case, he may take you over instead, and depending on the player, keep or release you. The best thing to do though, is to win an uprise and free your city altogether.

    If you get an alliance, see if a member close by you can garrision your troops while you are away. When you are online, get them going farming valleys, and NPC's. Train your troops, you will need troops in order to uprise, but while away, keep them away from your city, either camp them on a valley you own, or garrison them in a members embassy. Have alliance members send you resources. A Suzerain cant take what you have, only what you produce.

    If you can, follow the quest to get Knight status, this allows you to build a second city. Now you have 2 options, build the second city nearby, send your troops to it, and when ready, uprise, OR, disassemble the first city, provided the TH isnt very high, IE lvl 10, (you cant get that back), then once you have everything down to lvl 1 or gone, abandon it, after the next server reset, the city will be removed, the Suzerain loses it.

    Multicity Players

    You have a better situation here, you have more cities to use against the Suzerain. In this case, you can shut these cities down, when you do, your idle population goes up to max, especially if you applied Comfort to remove the greivance. You can send resources to this city, and train a LOT of troops, preferably archers, and once trained, move them out, dont let them sit there, the Suzerain can draft 10% of them. Dont stop upgrading either, keep building up the fields and buildings. Even out the number of archers and warriors in your other cities based on your rally point and distance. You will want to be able to send them all in large groups with perfect timing, as you will see later.

    The Uprise

    When you uprise it is your troops against the Suzerain. There is a percentage set on each colony of how many troops a Suzerain has for suppresion of an uprising, some may be 0, some may be 100%, depending on how valuble the colony is. It is this percentage that you are going up against. To get an idea how many troops you will be facing, you need a sacrificial amount of warriors. Get about 500 of them in your city, and go to your Suzerain, and click uprise. You have 2 ways to do this, first is on the map, if you know where it is, you can click on the city, and click the uprise button, or if you hold your cursor over your city picture on the right of the map, you will see a box pop out, click on it and you will have the option to Uprise, or commision an uprise. Click on Uprise. You may want to do this a few times to get the variables and to see just how the other player is using his troops.

    Now here is the important part, one I myself failed to do and had to wait another week to free my second city.

    OPEN YOUR GATES!

    Click on your rally point and check the box open gates to fight. If this is not checked, your troops will not fight.

    Let the uprise finish, and you should get a report back showing the Suzerain troop strength. This is what you have to counter when you are ready to actually uprise. The goal is to have more troops than he does. The best troop is of course Archers. Just make sure you have more archers than he does, not more warriors. You can have 300K warriors, and he may have 100k archers, you will lose. For a successful uprise, have archers and warriors, at least 10-20% more than he does, and you will win.

    One thing to remember, it is your troops against his. Troops, not wall defenses, they do not play a part in an uprise, don't let anyone tell you different. None of my battle reports showed any wall defenses, just troops. If you look at a battle report against a city you colonized, or an NPC, you will see wall defenses in the report, but you don't see them in an uprise.

    To catch the Suzerain off guard, uprise often, keep your gates closed in case you have troops you dont want to lose. He will never know when the real uprising takes place, and eventually he will stop trying to hold back his troops, thinking you are bluffing, then when he least expects it, POOF he no longer has your colony.

    When you are ready, and feel you have enough troops to over power his and gain your city back, click on the uprise, keeping in mind that in 7 hours 55 minutes you need to be online ready to make your move. During the uprise, if your Suzerain is online, he may scout you to see if you actually have any troops, and prepare accordingly, he may also apply draft or disarmament policies druing this time, so if your troops are there when he does, you will either lose troops, or not be able to fight. This is why you want to uprise often, to throw him off gaurd, at some point he will ignore you, and increases your chances of winning.

    You will need to time this perfectly, the ultimate goal is to have ALL your troops in the city during the last minute of the uprise, so first see how long it takes to get all your troops into the city and do this ahead of time so you know. When the time comes Send in the troops. You will also want to make your highest attack hero the mayor during this time, as the Mayor is the one doing the uprise. If you have any alliance members willing to reinforce you, make sure your Embassy is at least lvl 4, and have them reinforce you during the final minutes of the uprise.

    After you WIN

    If you are in an area that is far from other members, and close to the Suzerain, try to teleport away from him AFTER you have uprised, NOT before. Teleporting does nothing to rid you of a Suzerain, so dont waste it while colonized. Using it after breaks his hold on you for good, since he wont know where you went, and reduces the chances of him retaliating and trying to get you back. If you can use an Advanced Teleport, try to get into a cluster of alliance members for better protection.

    Hope this has helped you like it helped me.
    Last edited by acdii; 06-12-2010 at 02:57 PM.

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    Pretty good guide. However you don't mention any thing about Tech Levels since its open combat, having lower tech levels will hurt you alot.

    Here is an Example of a Failed uprise on me when I wasn't even Online. He didn't even attempt to scout me our anything, mind you he would have failed with way but, with your prep work may have done better.


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    If he had thrown 500 warriors at you in a fake Uprise, he would have received a report showing what you had. Kinda like testing the waters, sacrifice a few to save the many. Another way to determine what the Suz has is an Eyes and Ears Strategm, which gives a full detailed report on the city it is used on.

    Looking at your report, I would not have succeeded against that amount even with all tech at 10 with those troop numbers. LOL.

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    I followed ur suggestion to the tee. All I got was a pretty much blank report that he won and I lost and how many warriors and gold that I lost. It gave me nothing about how many troops he has?? any suggestions?

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    Colonies should NOT get a report that detailed unless you killed at least a large proportion of the Suzerains army. I lost a colony and did not get a report with any details. Same rule should apply to the colony if uprising failed.
    We were using millions of troops each and I killed about a million of his and still no report.
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    So what happens when your Suzerain teleports away from you? Mine has just teleported all 4 of his cities and I am still under colonisation.

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    Makes no difference. You can port or your suze can, changes nothing except the distance.

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    and how do I uprise if I don't know where his city is? I don't think he's even in my state anymore.

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    look at your city icon (if you have more than one city see which one has a kind of chain on the left side. hold your mouse pointer over it and you will see a popup window about the suzerains city, click on it and a window appears with the option of uprise or commission quest.
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    attack again and colonize again .... no big deal .... nobody sent all troops to colonize others..... i had sent not more than 10% of my troops.

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