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    Spying is one of the most power tactics inside the rules of Evony. However, many spies either, 1. Get caught easily, or 2. Don't use it to their full potential.

    This guide is broken into two parts.

    Part 1, How to go under the radar

    Part 2, How to crush the alliance.


    Part 1


    A. Go Above the Radar

    Surprisingly, the best way to go under the radar is to make yourself known. Most spies don't even say hello in chat in fear of getting caught. That is really suspicious. Make yourself known, crack jokes, and say hello. Get people to like you.

    B. Get in the War Reports

    Someone who never attacks or is never attacked is a dead giveaway. You can attack your friends with a few 500 scout and cav every once in a while. (Make sure they are ok with it) it really makes you seem like your fighting. Don't get attacked because it might giveaway your troops count and you want that secret. Try to send a lot of your troops away to a valley and then be attacked so you look like your weak and need help.

    C. Give a Helping Hand

    Ask if anyone one wants some food or iron. It's a good way to get cords too. Reinforce people only if it won't help much. Offer to help attack someone, however don't attack for real, send a little attack that will show in the WR but won't show what you sent.

    D. Fake incoming Attacks

    Tell the alliance you're trying to crush that someone is sending a huge attack at you. It makes it seem like you are in the line of fire too. Maybe you can even get them to send you some troops.

    E. Fake Being Scouted
    Similar to step D. Tell them that some player in the other alliance scouted you. You may even get some lumber and iron to rebuild. Be careful because if they see your honor didn't change they will know your lying.



    Part 2



    A. Get Login Times

    Main reason spying started. If you watch the login times in the alliance "members" section you can see what times people are usually online. Very effective to launch attacks on high prestige players since alliance members can't reinforce.

    B. Get them to Reinforce You

    Get a person to send you resources or troops, anything that makes them weaker. If you are close to a player of the alliance you work for, tell the alliance you are trying to kill that he is farming your NPCS and therefore need food a lot. Get a good stockpile going because you are gonna need it for the final step.

    C. Get their troops before they go to bed or work

    Basically, combine steps A and B. Get their troop count low before they go offline so an attack is devastating. Many players will give you some archers and layers if you say you need it. You could be surprised how many layers someone is willing to give not even thinking about getting attacked with cavs.

    D. Leave some of your army in your "friend's" embassy.
    If they believe that you can't farm your NPCs you can ask a "friend" to keep some troops in their embassy. It lowers their food count and also gives them a false state of security. You can recall them at any time and leave him with a lack of that troop's type. Also helps you get a huge stockpile.
    E. Send your real friends your WR.

    Even if your alliance attacks someone with 1 scout you get a full report in WR. This is obvious however. Try sending some 500 scout and cav spam. It's like scouting but you get to save the scouts for scoutbombs. Be careful because you people can only get blind attacked for so long without finding out why.

    F. Place the blame on someone else.

    Should be in part 1 too. Chances are someone in the alliance fits the stereotypical description of a spy. If you lead a chase on him they might kick him out and think they are in the clear. ONLY DO THIS IF THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT SPYS. No need to start a chase if they aren't thinking about it.

    G. Try to get a rank in the Alliance

    If you are helpful and nice and funny you might make it to officer which gives you a ton of opportunities. It works best if you get current officers to quit the alliance or the whole game so a spot opens up.

    H. See who shares login info.

    We all know people do it. If player A and player B share info and one of the two is always online, an attack on them is not recommended until most of the alliance is gone.

    I. Lead the Final Attack
    When people really doubt you or when you are ready to go back to your real alliance you need a big finish. You should not have many major attacks over this time and you might have gotten a lot of resources. Use all of this to make troops for a final attack. Wait till the host is offline, have someone attack with one scout and send them the WR. If you got a high rank in the alliance, expel everyone you can before you get expelled. When the alliance has lost almost all members and the host is zeroed you are pretty much victorious. Now you can use those troops you made to attack the remaining members or to defend against them or if you were kicked out before the host was zeroed attack him too.


    Conclusion

    Spying is difficult but useful. It requires a certain amount of people skills and a certain charm to get it just right. I have used these tactics on many different servers with many different people and have only been caught once. I have been an officer in an alliance a couple of times and even a presbyter once. It takes practice but it gets very fun after a while. It is really like playing a whole different game. Try to remember that your lie is only good if you can keep it. Once they find out your lying you gotta think fast if you don?t wanna be on their target list.

    Any questions or comments are welcomed and wanted.
    Last edited by acer5200; 12-26-2010 at 09:08 PM. Reason: Fixing apostrophe glitch

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    Spying is the lowest thing to do in an the game. Only ppl who use spies or are spies are those players who can't win farly so they need dirty tricks to get an advantage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Prodigy the 5 View Post
    Spying is the lowest thing to do in an the game. Only ppl who use spies or are spies are those players who can't win farly so they need dirty tricks to get an advantage.
    Exactly what I think. If you can't beat the enemy without resorting to this method, then you should quit the server and the game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Prodigy the 5 View Post
    Spying is the lowest thing to do in an the game. Only ppl who use spies or are spies are those players who can't win farly so they need dirty tricks to get an advantage.
    This.

    And I can't believe this, but I actually agree with Shii. If you need to resort to spying on another alliance and kicking all them out, you really shouldn't be playing the game. Are you THAT bad that you can't win against an alliance so you feel the need to join them and then remove all their players?

    Congratulations, you 0'd the host, good job. This doesn't mean that you win. At all. If the members of said alliance are dedicated enough, they're going to still retaliate, and possibly blacklist you, and your alliance. Good luck finding a new one when you're crushed.
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    Eh i respect your opinions but disagree. I used to think that way too but Evony gets boring after awhile if you dont spice it up. If two allainces are fighting and arn't making any headway it just loses its fun. You think its dirty but I think its perfectly ok. It doesn't break any rules. How is it dirty?

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    Quote Originally Posted by overover View Post
    Eh i respect your opinions but disagree. I used to think that way too but Evony gets boring after awhile if you dont spice it up. If two allainces are fighting and arn't making any headway it just loses its fun. You think its dirty but I think its perfectly ok. It doesn't break any rules. How is it dirty?
    If two alliances are fighting and not making any headway, then they SUCK at strategy. If they can't cap or colonize invidual players city by themselves, then they should try coordinated attacks and start picking off alliance members 1 by 1. It might not break any rules, but it break moral rules. If you have to lie and spy on a alliance to try and beat someone then you suck, no ifs, ands, or buts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by King Shii View Post
    If two alliances are fighting and not making any headway, then they SUCK at strategy. If they can't cap or colonize invidual players city by themselves, then they should try coordinated attacks and start picking off alliance members 1 by 1. It might not break any rules, but it break moral rules. If you have to lie and spy on a alliance to try and beat someone then you suck, no ifs, ands, or buts.
    eh still your opinion, overall I never spied in the main server I play on, I just do it on other servers for fun mostly. Evony gets boring if all you do is farm but now im only playing on my main server so I figured I'd share some info.

    I understand you don't agree with spying, but, your reasons why you don't do not make much sense to me. Is their really a moral code? So what is this moral code and what other rules apply. Valley Stealing? Attacking When Offline? Farming Someone Else's NPC's? Where do you draw the line.

    What about alliances that are small that get declared on by a rank 1 or 2 alliance. They will all be zeroed if they live by the "moral code". Shouldn't they use every resource possible?

    Anyway, like I said before spying is a lot of fun and very helpful but still I would never do it on a main account. It is risky but that's what makes it fun I'm not a paid player so I cant tele around and kill ppl. when I wait for a new victim to arrive never me I go on some other severs and have fun

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    Spying isnt cool, ive seen what it does, on s148 had 2 spies at one time, they didnt know the host was on, started booting people got caught, kicked and they killed each other not knowing their original alliances were enemies. Besides, like Shii, Acer, and a few others said, spying is low. So low that its underground, and whoever spies just shouldnt play this game at all because they have to cheat to attack someone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by overover View Post
    eh still your opinion, overall I never spied in the main server I play on, I just do it on other servers for fun mostly. Evony gets boring if all you do is farm but now im only playing on my main server so I figured I'd share some info.

    I understand you don't agree with spying, but, your reasons why you don't do not make much sense to me. Is their really a moral code? So what is this moral code and what other rules apply. Valley Stealing? Attacking When Offline? Farming Someone Else's NPC's? Where do you draw the line.

    What about alliances that are small that get declared on by a rank 1 or 2 alliance. They will all be zeroed if they live by the "moral code". Shouldn't they use every resource possible?

    Anyway, like I said before spying is a lot of fun and very helpful but still I would never do it on a main account. It is risky but that's what makes it fun I'm not a paid player so I cant tele around and kill ppl. when I wait for a new victim to arrive never me I go on some other severs and have fun
    And that's where it's illegal and breaking the rules.

    Spying is perfectly legal when you do it on your account, but when you make another account to spy on someone, that's breaking the Evony TOS.

    Also, even though you're not a paying player either, it doesn't mean you can't get around. Ask a member of your alliance who ports into the red areas to either get you a 10 or an enemy city, and hit from that. That's how I've gotten all my ports.
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    I honestly don't think spying is cheating or rule breaking.

    If a spy gets caught he will 99.99% of the time be zeroed. If a person agrees to be a spy he takes a risk that is huge. It adds a whole other dimension to the game. Honestly I like this little debate but I would rather see more reasons than "spies are cheats and should quit".

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