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Thread: BigNorr (War) vs Stoney (CondemnD) 1v1 Both Online

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    Default BigNorr (War) vs Stoney (CondemnD) 1v1 Both Online

    Figured it's been awhile since I posted in battle reports so decided it's time to make an appearance. The server has been pretty uneventful of late with just occasional clashes without any major battles. A couple weeks ago I was porting around and landed in the middle of CondemnD and Kings13 fighting a war so I had some fun hitting both sides. One of their major players Stoney asked me if I'd be interested in a fight since none of the K13 were putting up a fight. I agreed but due to scheduling conflicts we couldnt' get the fight in before I had to port home.

    We talked for a bit and agreed to still have our fight at some point. I had dismantled my warcity at the time and was back in hero leveling mode when a bunch of players from sin allaince decided to gangbang one of the guys in War. I threw some troops from my home cities into something I could use to assist and ported in along with Uproot and the sin threat was eliminated within a matter of hours with all the sin porting home. I only clashed with one personally as they were quick to truce and port home but I had these troops in 1 city and nothing to use them on. I contacted Stoney to see if he was down to fight and he said he was a bit low on troops but agreed.

    The next day he capped an NPC and ported it out so I could come in since the state was full. A Kings13 player was beside him at the time so I helped Stoney attack it before we fought so it wouldn't be a distraction. The city was farmed and left with some troops but no real threat. Then it was on to Stoney. The arrangement was 1v1, full feasting halls, 2 cities each for troop movement, and both online with the other player stopping when the other person couldn't continue or requested a break.

    The main heroes each of us have are we both have instant trebs so it would be tricky as walls couldn't be easily removed and kept down. He has somewhere around instant trans and I am instant pults. It was agreed this time I'd be on the offensive as he didn't feel he had enough troops to stage a strong enough offensive to win. Massive amounts of respect for Stoney for agreeing to this fight since very few fight me these days.

    First off I got my initial scout on his city:
    http://ww.evonyurl.com/uufl9j

    Should be a tough nut to crack since not too many troops to get stuck only with CD as an option, with his poli hero to consider, and with his second city a mile away from his first for fast RI.

    For my first set of waves I timed a large naked mech wave (I anticipated he would pull his layering and go mech D on it since it had a large hero that would still do damage to a CD) followed by a series of minimechs filled out with scouts to bomb his mechs. The whole time I had cavspam goin from my second city just so he would still have to worry about his walls somewhat. Now he opened gates a minute and a half before impact so I couldn't see what he had done but I anticipated the mech D and pullled the main mech wave to cut down on costs. It turned out to be the right call and the nonspam waves are as follows:

    http://ww.evonyurl.com/rsc1uw

    next was same setup 750k hero xp but no report

    http://ww.evonyurl.com/wpevtr

    next was same setup but he popped something in there and it only 40k xp
    I also got in a couple scout waves with my main hero to wipe out a few 100k scouts

    For the next set I did pretty much the same thing big mech timed with minimechs. I tried to slip in a cavsmack with the spam to try and strip walls without him noticing but the hero let me down so walls weren't wiped and he picked up on it anyway lol.

    http://ww.evonyurl.com/e5zqkd (oh well at least it keeps his honor up there lol)

    Right before the hit I tried to time a scout wave with my main to pick off more scouts as I came along. I made a big booboo and accidentally SB'd with it (so glad it was full FH's lol) On the plus side his gates were shut for the bomb and it wiped his walls which enabled what happened next:

    http://ww.evonyurl.com/3i7qbb (The bomb also shows he switched to CD probably because he noticed I pulled the major mech wave the first time and the smaller ones can't penetrate his walls with a strong CD.

    Major mech was recalled as last time as I didn't know he had done the CD switch until after I reviewed reports after the hit. I also cut down on mechs sent in these waves since if he did go mech D he wasn't looking like he was going to go layer heavy to absorb hits. It's a good thing it's minimechs I use with scouts and not just cav scout waves or these would have been totally useless waves, instead I tradefired with his mechs.

    http://ww.evonyurl.com/cob435

    http://ww.evonyurl.com/hgulqt

    http://ww.evonyurl.com/f0ua9e

    next hit was no report but 1 mil hero xp

    Final hit was absolutely lethal and I really love since it wiped 10 mil scouts I got 65 heal and 0 honor lol (good thing I cut back on the mechs used in these waves or I'd have gained a bunch of honor here)



    http://ww.evonyurl.com/ea5ih5

    Turns out he misclicked on putting up a full batch of walls that would have screwed up (shows the importance of timing your waves tightly) He closed gates after the massive hit and a mistimed cav wave wiped his new full walls with low losses.

    http://ww.evonyurl.com/tdigfw

    After this he had to call it a night as his inlaws are in town so we agreed to continue the next day so he could have time to move in more mechs. This is the scout report for day 2:
    http://ww.evonyurl.com/zosvp0

    Same basic principle for the attacks today as yesterday. Only this time I decided to shake it up by letting the main mech land so he wouldn't get used to me doing 1 thing over and over. Good thing I did since he left rams inside to take the hits. Unfortunately my buffs ran out before impact so didn't do quite as much damage as expected.

    http://ww.evonyurl.com/os004o

    Next 6 or 7 blows gained 750k to 2 mil xp each but none gave reports. He also left his gates open after the hits so I put my hero to work descouting at a good tradeoff rate for scouts:
    http://ww.evonyurl.com/7162mi

    He clued in and closed gates so I saw what was left:
    http://ww.evonyurl.com/cly5t2
    (He moved out most of the mechs in case I tried to sb due to his lower scout count and then pulled them back in for my hits when he saw no SBs)

    I timed the next series of attacks and he opened gates 2 min before hits so I managed to descout him down to nothing before I landed.

    SB lands first to kill some mechs:
    http://ww.evonyurl.com/4rkro2

    He's switched to CD so good thing I made the first minimech slightly normal then usual:
    http://ww.evonyurl.com/4yfbkm

    Next 2 were no reports with a couple hundred k xp then this hit
    http://ww.evonyurl.com/d7uyim

    This one is disappointing:
    http://ww.evonyurl.com/r3zmd1

    And the final hit:
    http://ww.evonyurl.com/neqlab

    After this the Kings13 guy started to hit Stoney too so I hit him but Stoney didn't have the troops to continue anyway. We thanked each other called it a great learning experience and are planning to meet again in a couple weeks with his as the attacker. Again huge respect for him for doing this made my evo time fun last little while
    Last edited by BigNorr; 02-25-2012 at 09:14 PM.

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    Nice hits, Norr. I like the respect level between the both of ya.

    Forgot, +rep!
    Last edited by FairyAcid; 02-25-2012 at 09:46 PM.

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    Great hits Norr. I wish people in age II would do this but whenever you attack they just port out or close the gates on their Hc's. Anyways the one Wave was nasty. 11mil scouts. OUCH! great battle
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    were u scouting him down while attacking him? an 11mil scout cover for less then 100k ballis and 100k pults seems excessive unless u were constantly killing them even then its like 250k a pop

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    Quote Originally Posted by iamme View Post
    were u scouting him down while attacking him? an 11mil scout cover for less then 100k ballis and 100k pults seems excessive unless u were constantly killing them even then its like 250k a pop
    Well I was scouting but he was playing gates so I wasn't picking off a ton. I don't question the city setups of my opponents I just attack them and try to win lol.

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    Props to Stoney for a REAL Evony fight. Too often these days it's offline only, or closed gates and resources moved, not to mention the cussing and abuse on WC. Also for a pretty good defence from the sounds of it.

    As always Norr, love the hits.

    I hesitate to critique, especially as someone who no longer plays (I just log and chat now), however I still keep a hand in with the theory, and notice that you always layer your mech all the way through. I understand full layering when hitting blind, or with full layers on defense, but horses and pikes in attacking mech layers when there are no horses defending, can and do often reduce your damage. Suggest experimenting with alternating layers... if nothing else, it keeps the defenders guessing, and they can't go with a standard defence that they don't fully understand. The balli/pult/1ram method seems to have a lot of posers scratching their heads

    Especially love the 11M scout hit and at zero honour, damn that was nice.
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    great hits
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    some very nice hits there, though not sure i understand the purpose of the 85k scout layer in the mechwaves, an age 1 thing?


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    Awesome hits Norr and an awesome battle. Stoney did a good job too. I deem you worthy of my repping you.

    Quote Originally Posted by tipperary1 View Post
    some very nice hits there, though not sure i understand the purpose of the 85k scout layer in the mechwaves, an age 1 thing?
    Norr explained that since he was in a mech d, he layered his attacks with scouts to kill off his mechs.
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    Nice!
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