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    Experience For Your Hero (Finally)

    As I was looking at a few of the other guides on the forums, I noticed a lot of guides about attacking NPC's, more specifically lvl 10's. And about one in every ten posts was my hero's not high enough to attack. So I've decided to make a guide on experience for heros. Now, there are only three ways for a hero to gain experience (to my knowledge).

    Thanks goes out to SirDrunk123 who informed me that you also get experience from troops finishing at the barracks and research levels being completed. Although all of my techs are at their maximum levels, so I won't be able to add that information. Although i'll be compiling information on troops giving your mayor experience in the near future.

    (1) Using items.
    (2) Being mayor while a new building is being constructed, research finishes, or troops are made
    (3) (The most common) Through attacking other players, valleys, and NPC's

    Using Items
    There are three different items that can be used to increase a hero's experience. There pretty self-explanatory, but just in case...

    Each item offers either a percent increase or a given number of experience points. Generally, lower level heros tend to get the number of experience since their level cap isn't that high. (The level cap is the total number of experience points needed to reach the next level) Once your hero gets to level 100 lets say, and he/she needs 500,000 experience points and you use the Anabasis, well since 8% of 500,000 is more than 1,000, your hero will get 8% of 500,000 added to their experience.

    (1) Anabasis - Increase hero's experience by 1,000 or 8% of current level cap

    (2) Epitome of Militarty Science - Increase hero's experience by 10,000 or 30% of current level cap

    (3) On War - Increase hero's experience by 100,000 or 100% of current level cap

    This is typically the least common way of increasing a hero's experience since you either need to buy these items or win them off the wheel. And once you get to a high enough level, 8% hardly puts a dent in your experience.


    Being Mayor While Troops Are Made and Buildings Are Built
    Special thanks goes to AEtherchild for compiling this information

    The experience you receive from making troops only goes to the mayor of your city when the troops are FINISHED being made, not when you originally que them up. The following is a list of how much experience you get per troop that is made.

    1 Worker: 1.125
    1 Warrior: 1.525
    1 Scout: 3.475
    1 Pikeman: 4.5
    1 Swordsman: 6.75
    1 Archer: 7
    1 Cavalry: 14.25
    1 Cataphract: 43.75
    1 Transporter: 14.875
    1 Ballista: 50
    1 Battering Ram: 68.75
    1 Catapult: 145

    1 Trap: 4.375
    1 Abatis: 8.375
    1 Archer's Tower: 27.25
    1 Rollinglog: 31.5
    1 Defensive Trebuchet: 83

    For the buildings and technologies, until I think of a nicer-looking way of presenting these numbers, I will list the type of building/tech, and then 10 numbers, representing the given mayor experience for it. As a note, unlike troops you cannot have more than one of these finishing at once, so the numbers are rounded down to the nearest integer.

    Farm: 5, 11, 22, 45, 90, 180, 360, 720, 1440, 2880
    Sawmill: 7, 14, 29, 58, 116, 232, 464, 928, 1856, 3712
    Quarry: 9, 19, 39, 79, 158, 316, 633, 1267, 2534, 5068
    Ironmine: 11, 23, 46, 92, 184, 369, 739, 1478, 2956, 5913

    Cottage: 4, 9, 18, 37, 74, 148, 296, 592, 1184, 2368
    Warehouse: 21, 43, 87, 174, 348, 696, 1392, 2784, 5568, 11136
    Inn: 26, 53, 106, 212, 424, 848, 1696, 3392, 6784, 13568
    Feasting Hall: 35, 70, 141, 282, 564, 1128, 2256, 4512, 9024, 18048
    Market: 32, 65, 130, 260, 520, 1040, 2080, 4160, 8320, 1o6640
    Rally Spot: 25, 50, 101, 203, 406, 812, 1624, 3248, 6496, 12992
    Barracks: 28, 57, 114, 228, 456, 912, 1824, 3648, 7296, 14592
    Beacon Tower: 39, 79, 158, 316, 632, 1264, 2528, 5056, 10112, 20224
    Forge: 26, 53, 106, 213, 426, 852, 1704, 3408, 6816, 13632
    Stable: 36, 73, 146, 292, 584, 1168, 2336, 4672, 9344, 18688
    Workshop: 32, 64, 128, 256, 512, 1024, 2048, 4096, 8192, 16384
    Academy: 30, 61, 122, 244, 489, 979, 1958, 3916, 7833, 15667
    Embassy: 19, 39, 79, 158, 316, 632, 1264, 2528, 5056, 10112
    Relief Station: 83, 167, 335, 670, 1340, 2680, 5360, 10720, 21440, 42880
    Walls: 128, 257, 515, 1030, 2060, 4120, 8240, 16480, 32960, 65920

    Agriculture: 52, 105, 210, 420, 840, 1680, 3360, 6720, 13440, 26880
    Lumbering: 63, 127, 255, 510, 1020, 2040, 4080, 8160, 16320, 32640
    Masonry: 82, 165, 330, 660, 1320, 2640, 5280, 10560, 21120, 42240
    Mining: 110, 220, 440, 880, 1760, 3520, 7040, 14080, 28160, 56320
    Metal Casting: 258, 517, 1035, 2070, 4140, 8280, 16560, 33120, 66240, 132480
    Informatics: 101, 203, 406, 812, 1624, 3248, 6496, 12992, 25984, 51968
    Military Science: 131, 262, 525, 1051, 2102, 4204, 8408, 16816, 33632, 67264
    Military Tradition: 157, 314, 628, 1256, 2513, 5027, 10054, 20108, 40217, 80435
    Iron Working: 183, 366, 732, 1464, 2928, 5856, 11712, 23424, 46848, 93696
    Logistics: 154, 309, 618, 1236, 2472, 4944, 9888, 19776, 39552, 79104
    Compass: 153, 306, 612, 1224, 2448, 4896, 9792, 19584, 39168, 78336
    Horseback Riding: 305, 610, 1220, 2440, 4880, 9760, 19520, 39040, 78080, 156160
    Archery: 266, 533, 1066, 2132, 4264, 8528, 17056, 34112, 68224, 136448
    Stockpile: 126, 252, 504, 1008, 2016, 4032, 8064, 16128, 32256, 64512
    Medicine: 187, 375, 750, 1500, 3000, 6000, 12000, 24000, 48000, 96000
    Construction: 305, 610, 1220, 2440, 4880, 9760, 19520, 39040, 78080, 156160
    Engineering: 361, 722, 1445, 2890, 5780, 11560, 23120, 46240, 92480, 184960
    Machinery: 295, 590, 1180, 2360, 4720, 9440, 18880, 37760, 75520, 151040
    Privateering: 550, 1100, 2200, 4400, 8800, 17600, 35200, 70400, 140800, 281600
    Attacking Other Players and NPC's

    As you all know (I hope) the most common way to get experience for your hero is to send him/her on an attack. Thanks to a post by captain virk, with information from aom12, and I have also tested this information as well. In order to find out how much experience your hero will get multiply the number of troops you KILL in battle, not the total amount of troops lost on both sides.

    Worker - 2.25
    Warrior - 3.05
    Scout - 6.95
    Pikeman - 9
    Swordsman - 13.5
    Archer - 13.5
    Cavalry - 28.5
    Cataphract - 87.5
    Transporter - 29.75
    Ballista - 100
    Battering Ram - 137.5
    Catapult - 290
    Trap - 8.75
    Abaitis - 16.75
    Archer's Tower - 54.5
    Rolling log - 63
    Defensive Trebuchet - 166

    The following is a list of how much experience you will get assuming you destroy every last enemy troop, including traps, abaitis, and logs. The number in parenthesis is how much experience you'll get if you only send ballistae and transporters, simulating a farming situation. Of course your results may vary depending upon how many traps, abaitis, and logs you take out when you attack.

    LvL 1 - 10,030 (1,280)
    LvL 2 - 27,615 (2,215)
    LvL 3 - 74,852 (40,602)
    LvL 4 - 112,551 (41,770)
    LvL 5 - 204,681 (93,212)
    LvL 6 - 325,262 (203,100)
    LvL 7 - 518,100 (352,900)
    LvL 8 - 752,220 (538,200)
    LvL 9 - 1,152,150 (884,625)
    LvL 10 - 1,865,000

    When you look at this, it's clear why level 10's give you a huge jump in experience, it's because you take out almost all the wall defenses of the NPC. Which explains why you get more experience when you send warriors along with your NPC attack, it's because you're taking out more of the NPC wall defenses. The number in parenthesis is the amount of experience you'll get if you don't set off any traps, abaitis, or rolling logs. And of course the first number is if you eliminate every single enemy troop.

    Of course attacking valleys and other players will give your hero experience too, but it depends on how many troops and defenses they have, and you can figure this out using the chart above, or captain virk's guide as well.

    Despite what many people think, attacking a level 10 NPC with archers produces 20 times more experience than farming a level 5 NPC with only ballistae. The only real way to get experience fast is to attack level 10's. The resources regenerate every 8 hours, the troops regenerate every hour, so if you solely wanted experience you could attack a LvL 10 NPC 24 times a day in theory (if you didn't sleep) which would be a theoretical maximum of 44,760,000 experience per NPC per day. Of course you could just attack other NPC's in your area as well, although I don't think the resources and troop loss would be worth attacking every hour.

    So here are the stats for farming a LvL 10 NPC, the cost of making archers, and what you gain and lose from each attack.

    A LvL 10 NPC has

    -19,000,000 food
    -600,000 lumber
    -600,000 iron

    Your losses from an NPC should range from 8,000 to 12,000 archers, if not then you shouldn't be attacking them. I figured the average, which for you smart ones out there is a loss of 10,000 archers per attack.

    Resources Needed to Make 10k Archers

    - 3,000,000 Food
    - 3,500,000 Lumber
    - 3,000,000 Iron

    Net Resource Gain From A Level 10 NPC attack (not including layers)

    > +16,000,000 Food
    > -2,900,000 Lumber
    > -2,400,000 Iron

    Another thing to consider is time. Depending upon your attack hero and how many barracks you have in your city. I'd say a decent time to replenish 10,000 archers should be around 9 or 10 hours when spread evenly throughout your barracks.

    If there's any other way to earn experience faster than this then please let me know.

    PM me or leave a reply if you think there should something else.
    Last edited by Derven; 02-12-2010 at 01:42 PM.

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    i think this is really informational

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    thanks, there are so many guides on attacking level 10's and not much to gain more experience to get a good hero to actually attack it with. As far as i know there are only the three ways above to gain experience.

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    A nice imformative guide. +1 rep for putting it togethor.

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    Your mayor gets exp from troops finishing, and from research finishing (as well as buildings)
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    Easiest way to gain exp at higher levels is to buy on wars.
    When it hits 50-60m exp just for one level, it gets eaiser that way. [Just put a new lvl300 hero thru the regime i put my main hero thru per day, gained almost 8 levels. -,-]
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    thanks. very informative. i know some other players in my alliance will like the info.

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    Well built guide.
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    Nice guide mate.

    One trick I use during the first days of a server to level up my attack hero (because I don't have the man-power to attack a lv 10 on day 3 of a server) is switch him in as mayor just as research/troops/building gets finished. That way, he will get the xp. Then I just switch back in my politics hero.

    I know that steals xp from my politics hero, but it's a gain if you're a warmonger.
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    Splendid work!
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    Very good must have put alot of effort in five stars.
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