SpitFire Alliance example why alliances need to be regulated
I’ve read about some of the other threads about coercion to join alliances. Since this is a game of medieval European life, the same values should apply, chivalry, honor etc. The player has an Honor scale. Some of the alliances, all is about winning and screw the rest, but you wonder what kind of leader they have. Rednight started a battle over someone taking a valley, even when apologized to and offered back the land. He’s escalated this, with the Spitfire alliance into a major battle, when this was supposed to be only a game, forcing an arms race with everyone in Thuringia, which I suspect helps Server 4 crash. A war needs to be limited to a few days, to help reduce server crashes. Also 2/3 of the alliance chats are system war announcements. Alliances need rules and ethics in place to help control this.
For the past two weeks since I joined, I heard tactics used by Rednight (Spitfires) and saw constant attacks by them 24 hours a day (check the battle reports), no moratorium, this is worse than real life, but is supposed to be a game.
The following message thread is my first contact with them and is a “inducement” to join the Spitfires
Rednight: how would you like to join spitfire?
Me: Rednight thank you for your generous offer. I'm rather curious being retired career military spec ops, how I managed to be under the radar, and didn't receive your kind offer until today?
Rednight: i thought i did send you an invite before....or maybe got side tracked...i get alot of messages..i take it your considering the invite?
Me: Yes I'm definately entertaining allying, but don't understand why I was under the radar for so long? Which begs the next question, what advantages do you offer if you lack tactical intelligence planning?
Rednight: what?? careful who you insult
Me: Not meant as an insult, comes from over 20 yrs in real life military in tactical ops. Think, I've been saying out of conflict so far, no aggression no retaliation, why would you want to wake a slumbering giant?
I guess from my last reply he was not able to comprehend what tactical intelligence planning and thought I was talking about his personal intelligence
Rednight: slumbering giant??? lol. you have 150k prestige.....i have about 10 guys at 150 and about 30 over 100k.....hmmm...i will pretend you didnt say all that...do you want to be in the spitfire alliance?? yes or no
Me: I'm leaning strongly towards being a mutually benenificial ally with you. I will get back with you.
Rednight: why does your city have a truce, someone trying to attack you...need assistance
Why yes if you just finished your 7 day period and in the middle of a major war and the aggressors scouted you.
I'll be adding to this thread shortly
Medieval Honor was not...welll honorable.
The notion that the medieval period was quaint and honorable and chivalrous comes from the romance novels of Stevenson, Twain and others. In truth it was far close to "Monty Python and the Holy Grail"
"There's some lovely filth over here."
I was livid when I was first farmed. The alliance I formed has as its watchword honor and help for the beginner. Never attack first, retaliate only. Guess what? Seven members. The moderators themselves refer to it as a war game, not a strategy game. So be it then. I altered our alliance description and we will seek war. That's probably a far more realistic approach than I originally planned anyhow.
Baldric of Ellenar
I never played an RPG before but I'm trying to learn
I didn't really expect a response to this thread. I'm new to the game and never played a RPG before. For someone that's never played one before, some of the comments give a valuable insight to the game. I wished that there was a section in the forum for someone that is new to an RPG, and hope one is setup for future "new to an RPG" players.
There was one post that started a lot of quotes in this thread "There really aren't any rules, save 2. And I quote Pirates of the Caribbean (lol!): "What a man can do, and what a man can't do. The only real rules involve harassment and scripting." Keep in mind I'm new and was seeing a volume of war reports. No one had mentioned to the ignorant newbie the risk of building a second city too early, not having enough defenses, or about having enough scouts to prevent being scouted. When the incident that started this thread happened, the only thing I was able to do and think of was to try to buy time by mail replies. When I saw the three 5,000 warrior attacks would almost converge at the same time, I realized that they were trying to capture my first city. RedKnight, you and your alliance made an excellent well-organized tactical move.