no darling, I didn't lol but post was removed so I can\t show you want I was talking about :rofl:
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duno lets see.. should be fun
I guess I should get to posting on here more often...i'm and "unknown quantity" at this point! Yay for underachieving!
Hmmmmm. Even as much as I dislike the UBA, why dont you just take all these "people" JustMyOpinion and combine with other alliances fighting them. If there is such an underground following of uba haters that are going to go to lengths as to sit there for months and more months until a server merge happens why not just play the game actively and join in the current fight against them? I have always been vocal about my opinions and up front about what i think, and regardless about what i think about the uba and how they feel about me, it seems to be defeating the point if your not actively taking a role in fighting. If there is such a following, removing members from them weakens them and strengthens others that are fighting them.
and TiB i dont need to make up lies about what merc said.......lol. its not my style. i wouldnt go to the trouble. who knows, i guess schil could have logged on for him. but the conversation as posted is as it was said.
here is the evonyurl link....
http://evonyurl.com/fqt8qs
that is a pretty interesting attack... I am not sure how your loyalty wave killed that many.... weird
Indeed and i am here debating the fact that UBA are infact in trouble when a merger comes .... its not just independants etc in trouble that is not what i am saying, the point is my scenarios are the only way it can go ... there is no other realistic one .... UBA disbanding? erm .... its not gonna happen and i wouldnt ask or debate for it to lol The facts are what i have stated ..... you say your not a big player you have no decision making so you are infact hiding behind ignorance, yet you do see the truth in my words and i can tell i am getting through to you as your arguments for your side are becoming slightly repetative, the facts of the matter are what i have stated i have come here as (yes hated) but respected member of our server and laid before you the facts and the outcomes of the choices UBA make....
When a merger comes yes you will look to the politicians to try and sort "the world" to come to your side but will they? no of course not, for the acts in this war, you are literally hounding them till you get their heroes, sit in holiday or quit flat out... and no im not calling you bullies or that sort its a tactic you use and a good one as it works (yes i do understand tactics as well i am not just a pretty face) however your style is infact going to destroy and bring down the UBA in the end, you see your side of the war/ story .... i am laying the facts of both sides as i grasp what each side sees. So whereas the politician can yes probably get blues, as soon as the merger comes i know those that can betray you will ... because as i said before people see the UBA as the "bad guys" and with reason also, if you truly want to get them on your side for the merger you must really appeal to them, show "mercy" to them etc as at the moment they are hurting real bad and a cornered mouse does the worst damage ... why do you think they sit in holiday until a merge? ... to come out and help the UBA? hell no ... they sit in holiday until a merge so that when they come out they will have full on alliances backing them against yall ....
The original debate was on Politician leaders and War Leaders fact is in the scenarios ... in the future of our server the politicians will fail in getting aliegance for the merger the way things are going .... so you will look to the War Leaders .... Tiknight and Tibattle to lead you in this war .... the "UBA Gods" so to speak as much as you say "yes the hosts are the most important"... when UBA is said THEY are the two people think of .... not a politician .... the other day when you attacked me to prove a point you proved a different kind of point .... when things didnt go your way .... was it a politician you called in? no ... it was Tibattle.... The warrior not the politician.... because you had to pull a battle that was very very quickly turning against you around ...
Many points for us to debate on now cos :D let the debates begin
LC i included you in my scenarios .... BA fought Fin HARD against UBA ... but you still lost many players .... you still lost heroes ... cities ... members to the point of near death to the whole alliance .... when a merger comes how easy will it be to forget what UBA have done and fight along side them "buddy buddy" so to speak knowing what they are capable of after the server wars? .... truth is yes the other server may betray you but how quickly? i am sure they would not turn straight away, as was the case with UBA, FEAR it was mere weeks....
Cos you are getting repetative.... how are people going to "hold it together through this?" UBA is a machine ... there are MANY against a few ... the big opponents you move in your big guys who if trouble stirs backup will be called ... its a brilliant strategy, as much as people say its "bullying" .... well ... no they are winning the way they can ... which is good strategy not bullying ....
Players in the UBA ... yes there are many that would leave and join the other side, many even waiting out to leave, why do they stay there? ... because for now they are safe ... who would drop to attack 1600 UBA members? ... erm .... noone ... the reason some come on the forums under different names why? they would be killed otherwise and you know it ....
When they get called out to "show us your in game name or your a coward" .... but are they? they are just surviving while speaking up the only way that they can ... by hiding...
I also offer this .... if the other server starts winning.... how quick before the UBA politicians strike deals to save their people? or how quick before the UBA members leave to stay safe .... as truth is you have never faced that kind of war so you cant say if they would stay loyal or not .... i cant either in honesty i am just making you think ....
Thank you FURY i am glad i am showing people this side to the debate as many do refuse to hear the other side .... i am glad people are listening to me and thinking "ahh yes i didnt think of that"
Also the ego/ bravado is mainly for my entertainment and others smiling pleasure, everyone loves a big headed fool lol but i have never once claimed i was not intelligent, just flexing a bit of the brain power my friend.
Did i not state in my post that was not what the debate is about, i am showing you both sides to the story battle, i know your a smart man as we talk a lot, do not take offence and read completely into what i am saying, i am showing you the outcome and the scenarios that are going to come up, you can choose to try to prevent them ... or allow them to happen, i have dropped my ego for the purpose of this debate, drop yours too old friend .... there is much to debate on ... so debate with me.
wow :D hahah that must've taken a lot of effort two thumbs up :D
personally I think all the options are technically possible .. the only thing that is really certain is that things will change . . . real life will make people quit regardless . . powers shift . . leaders switch out . . alliances rise and fall . . What is the potential fate of the UBA who knows . . but where ever it goes . . I bet its going to be one hell of a ride :cheer: