I'm hoping they'll be way too busy sat on top of each other and want a 3rd state of their own in to fight for rather than bored and trying their luck coming to us
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only 2 states? there are alot more Indies alliances than UBA alliances so 2 is not really big enough. this is from an Indie and UBA point of view.
Thank you BowChickaBowBow and G for providing us with some statistics on our server.. Wow. I have been with UBA for 17 of my 18 months of playing Evony. So, with this information we can see that No One is 'winning' on this server. Personally, for obvious reasons, I have lost the desire to port and fight. I am neither the greatest, nor an inexperienced fighter - I play the game for the challenge, to learn, to improve.
I love being a part of CENTRION and I have had the honor of being part of the evolution of this great alliance. I do not hide under the UBA umbrella and I have little respect for those who do. For me it is about my alliance, and the camaraderie of our fellow alliances when the those opportunities arise, not the size or power of the coalition. I have complete respect for BA, or DUKE, and the others who have remained true to their alliances.
I do welcome change, a balancing of the odds, of actually enjoying my time here.
With that being said, I think it is unlikely that there will be much satisfaction achieved with a blue world.. that lasts about 3 days.
I don't see much success with reorganization of States for the Indy's either.
So that leaves us with 'do nothing', or Giummarra's Option #3: Going Grey. This option of going grey intrigues me and I would like to thank OhioGhost for refining that idea. I am totally on board with creating a 'State of War', lol. Drop your alliance and go fight on your own merit! Take your chances! Those who want to stay home and build can do so without hearing all the whining (from both sides... getting beat down or wanting more reds, geez). This option also avoids us all getting bogged down with too many rules, time frames, etc.
We need to heal this server and strengthen ourselves individually, as well as strengthening our alliances. I am proud to be part of CENTRION, a unified team, we all take on the roles that are needed of us when they are needed of us. But.. it is not wise to get too relaxed in that notion.
I am saddened by the displays of personal attacks, by the tactics many have used to win, get even, or to avoid losing. When we all decide what the remedy will be, I hope that we will experience some character building as well.
Or we could all drink some of that \~/ and have a free for all...
ok maybe that is just my plans for the night....watch out barbarians here I come!!
Ok so I think the grey Idea is the best so far, but lets keep thinking.
the alliance Idea I had a week or so back I thought was a good one, but it got shot down pretty quick... but maybe somthing in that area would be an Idea.
to clairify the idea, it wouldnt be stick all the indies in 2 states, it would be each alliance has its own home state, obviously more than one alliance would occupy a state, but it would still be their safe zone, with all out war being raged inside the One or Two "free states" that is to say the 2 or 3 states that no one can claim and whos sole purpose is to house our war cities. With an agreement by all that each home states will not be invaded it would leave all here the chance to do both play and learn from the best, and give a peace of mind that when we wake up we wont be zeroed out. As far as teaching anyone a lesson, as long as borders were not crossed and the wars and battles were contained withing the 2 or 3 states deemed "thunder dome" then thered be no hard feelings when a city was capped or heros wasted, because the only reason for going into these no man lands would be to fight and have fun.
but still cos...
2 states is a lil extreme.....
theres plenty of states on the borders that they can have. why muxt we give them such little space? are we afriad they are going to build up to the point where we can not handle them?
i think giving the indys their own states is so far the best idea. also giving us a set time to build uo in which no one will port in on them..
this is alot to ask already...
but it only seems to be the same people comng up with the ideas....
ARE WE THE ONLY 1S THAT CARE ABOUT THE OUTCOME OF OUR SERVER?
a valid point is that look at how much they are making off us as a whole..... we spend more then any other server...
and if they are not going to respect us and give us the change we deserve we are all going to have to be civil and come to a common goal here....
ok no more coalitions....
the UBA is never going to break up nor go and grey the whole server..
but would it be so hard to suck up our pride as the better players and reach our hands out to the indys? offer them advice to better fight us, offer them help in building up...
becuase lets face it...
if we want change we are all gooing to need to work together on this.. not see each other as red, blue grey green..... jus as equal people trying to get their moneys worth with this game....
What if there is no Merge?
going grey with each other is not going to happen, potentially we could go back to our previous agreement where we greyed our reds and only ported for skirmishes when ppl were bored.
Bully, what do you mean by offer help? should i go over there and teach them how i fight? so one day they could come and bite me? not going to happen. My suggestion would be to merge a few of the indys because there is alot of potential out there.If you would merge 2-3 of the indys and move the best and active players over their. i would bet your botom dollar that it would be strong alliance capable of repelling a UBA alliance
no TiB no suggesting we go over there and tell them a play by play on how to hit, thats jus re tard ed.....
but what i do mean is: we can hit them in methods they can learn from. for now. because ok ill give... what if there is a merge? are we going to want all our fighters mixxed with people that cant hit worth of Sh**?
and instead of calling them out in WC we can jus correct them... for example..
instead of calling out someone who poorly defended a mech atttack..... saying things like " you call that defence? my dead granny could do better"
instead how about giving more critisism? like " dude u tried hard, next time stack up more layers of __________" depending what they were hit with...
but no. i agree sending our people to indy alliances to teach them proper battle mechanics... 90% of us learned and are still learning how to hit not saying anyone is perfect
jus saying we are the biggest and the best......we have showed our rutheless and heartless side enough..
think we need to show our hearts this time, because, lets be honest.....
how many of you are counting the days b4 "that mail" gets sent out thanking everyone for all they have done ect and how the time has come.....
What if there is no merge? :attack:
I really encourage everyone who is posting in this forum to tell your alliance members to do the same. If you have ever heard someone complain about 'bully uba' or 'sea of blue', whatever it may be...join in the conversation. This server is made up of more then 15-20 leaders, whether its UBA or Indie.
For the record, I am not calling anyone a bully. Im sure there are some, but I do not believe it to be a coalition in its entirety.
and what about players that were forced to join UBA,etc and arent happy with where they are? are they gonna be able to leave and go back to their old alliance or restart an alliance without being put on a hit list?
What does it matter who i am?
So i can be labeled for starting the movement?
it really shouldnt matter who i am Cos. wheather im a puny member or a Officer.....
i am but 1 voice trying to reach out to the masses for a better game for everyone.
and that is why i have chosen this name.... to see if change is attainable......
alot of people reading, not alot posting tho.....
most are just watching 2 find out what happens
Seeing everyone talk civil. Alot, and I mean alot of good suggestions. I, like Sheri, have been UBA 14 of my 15 months, but yes, it has gotten boring. I hate farming, as anyone in CENTRION will tell ya, but I do need to lvl hero's and do the every now and then porting to fight here lately. Sounds like to me, we have plenty of good suggestions, now, lets work out the solution........
lol we can all assume its KK and move on. forward progress is being made no matter what the intentions are and a civil discussion is actually being played out in the forums, You can stay behind the fake name, and if this comes out for the good of the server than take your bows anonymously. hats off to you
dig the conan sig, one of the best lines from the movie that and CROM!!!!
Your are just an example of how narrow minded people can be Cos...
And as JustMyOpinion said, maybe your to worried about my name, and not what my main goal is
I am but a lowly UBA farmer/Bully whom is tired of what this game has become on our server
One who is not afraid to admit the Future of our Server rests in The hands of the UBA...
Had I thought using my name would make that more of a difference, I would have used it
But in reality your jus looking for a reason to ignore the topic at hand it seem
And my current topic is:
If we gave the indys 3 states to call home, would it really kill us?
What if there is no Merge?
Based on all the dialog here in the Forums the last 24 hours, there is currently a discussion going on among all the hosts of the server who have skype. We have tried to contact all the hosts to join us. Please mail myself or any of the UBA hosts if you need to be added.
Players talk to your Hosts and Vice Hosts about what is being discussed. The final say will be yours as we take our ideas back to our alliances for a vote.
I am very excited about the most recent developments and have great hope that our gaming experience will be enhanced.
Onward and upward ss28!!!!
That's good 'Mother' If something can actually come of this then maybe the server can survive.
And as per what Ike said..... How will there ever be an outcome on this if not everyone contributes? By them just watching nothing will ever change, this is a non judgmental discussion about the future of ss28
At this point simply sitting and lurking is not helping anything!
7 people can not change the future of the server (no I didn't actually count how many ppl are involved in this)
And as someone else had said (sorry I can remember who it was) this is not something that is going to happen overnight... Its going to take time, and discussion and debate.....
What if there is no Merge?
Cos s comment on the name thing just goes to show you that he doesnt want this to work.ask G the question bully as he will answer you. my host is in afganistan and isnt hardly able to get on but we just a little alliance that UBA made red cause we didnt pick the join in their join or die crap
That question was for everyone, I know G would answer it, because he wants change as much as most of us do.....
Its just unfortunate that there isn't more people voicing their opinions on the matter..........
All you Guests viewing Why not make an account and tell us how you feel?
I want to hear from EVERYONE on ss28
Leave your egos at the door, as I said we are here to air our Brains... Not our hearts and souls...
What if there is No Merge?
Cos is sick to death of trying to be open and straight forward with people that can't do the same in return
Cos is fed up with spending more time sorting problems than a playing a very simple game that really doesn't need to be this much of a headache
Why should I care what red flags do or feel about being hit and losing cities? It's a game after all. For some strange reason though I can appreciate that the game is played by real people, who invest a lot of time into it and for trying to point out that we could try and level things out a bit so play is more enjoyable for all, I get judged and labelled by people that don't even have the decency to not hide behind false names while doing it?
So what do you think "killed" your server?
On top of all else.... Plastic and Che@ting...........
And finally something we can agree on,
And Cos if it helps, I'm not one of you Spratans........
I'm a Trojan...... That's all I will say.
Because at the end of the day, it doesn't matter who I am. All that matters is that we all agree that we all want to have fun again!
If I had a forum account already I wouldn't have made this one. I chose this name simply to raise a few eyebrows and for people to see what it has come to..... I'm everyone point of view.
And I think for the most part I have achieved my Goals.
All but 1....
What are going to do to change this server for the best???
What if there is No Merge?
your labeled and judged cos cause your more concerned over a name than making Gs idea work. its not the name but the idea that works. for all you know i could be a spartan wanting change to this server like G does
I have spent the better part of an hour reading all the proposals,
Everyone has great ideas, now we need to put together a proposal to unite our server, whether its going grey, neutral states, so many good ideas that deserve respect for being produced for all to read, I am pleased to read the forums and walk away knowing our server has hope of survival and that were willing to look past the childish drama as G put it
with that said i believe Cos mentioned it respect is earned whether your an attacker or defender, Cos also mentioned how a few use fake names, I personally view the use of Fake names irritating because what if i liked your idea or wanted to contact you in game i cannot. It makes a person wonder whats to hide if u believe passionately bout what you post as your ideas you should take credit for them.
this server has a tough road ahead of it as we ALL pave the way for its future working together in unison to become a single family unit, that after childish playing in a neutral state is over and a real threat emerges - another server- we will group together as a family cuz thats what families due when one of their own is threatened.
To be a family we need to build that trust amongst us all, so that we can fight each other and fun, but also be able to stop our playing to be a team an undefeatable force one that no server or enemy can stand against.