Just to tell you, I'm NOT trying to outdo that other thread. *shifty eyes*
Anyways, I've posted the people who I think were the greatest military commanders ever, and I want to see what you think.
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Just to tell you, I'm NOT trying to outdo that other thread. *shifty eyes*
Anyways, I've posted the people who I think were the greatest military commanders ever, and I want to see what you think.
I don't see any names of commanders.... *double-checks*... nope.
Alexander the Great. He conquered much of the known world in such short time. He got persia, and greece, and dominated.
Sorry, I was putting up the poll.
Otto von Bismarck.
Hello; thank you for posting this thread as it is more widespread than my time-specific and culture-specific thread.
My choice for this post would be Napoleon Bonaparte. Specifically, I would concentrate upon the Italian theatre of war from 1796-1797 CE and the years from 1798-1802 CE.
The division of the French Republican forces under the Five-Man Directory from 1795-1799 CE consisted of General Jean-Victor Marie Moreau as commander of the Army of the Rhine, General Kellerman as commander of the Army of the Alps and Napoleon I Bonaparte as commander of the Army of Italy. [General Hoche safeguarded the coasts of the First French Republic from invasion by the British]
The main thrust was intended to come from Jean-Victor Marie Moreau and the Army of the Rhine; they were to gain support of minor territorial zones adjacent to the French Republic, and to support the garrisons within the French dominated Batavian Republic and the French dominated Helvetian Confederation. General Kellerman was to support the armies of Italy and the Rhine, and to provide necessary support to the weaker front. This tripartite division had a major flaw; the Clausewitzian maxim of a concentration of force at the decisive point was totally disregarded by the Five-Man Directory.
Napoleon I Bonaparte trapped, encircled and cut of the supply lines of the Piedmontese and Austrian Habsburgs, subdued Milan, Savoy, Nice, Piedmont and most of the Lombardy region in northern Italy. At the battles of Montenotte, Millesimo, San Michele, Ceva, Lodi, Bassano, Rovento, Mondavi, Arcole, Rivoli and Mantua, the Allied Coalition was beaten numerous times and pushed back and forced to accept the treaty of "Campo Formio". The outcome was the creation of French client-republics within northern Italy: the Cisapadane Republic, the Transpadane Republic and the Cisalpine Republic.
The War of the Second Coalition was brought to an end by the victories of Jean-Victor Marie Moreau at Hohenlinden [1800 CE] against Archduke John of Habsburg Austria in the location of Bavaria and Bonaparte's victory at Marengo [1800 CE] in northern Italy.
Julius Caesar.
Me, myself, and I. Territory over politics.
Xenophone...:cool:
I'm not going to vote. Too many factors to consider. Sure they all were the greatest commander of their times but to compare it with other commanders is kind of impossible.
thats a hard one I went with alexander the great though .
I honestly have no clue why forest,rommel,patton or nelson are even up there. Sure they were good but certianly not deserving of greatest.Sun Tzu would be a much better choice than any of them
Pretty sure Douglas MacArthur should be on there, he's my favorite.
Tzu was a philosopher who happened to write a treatise about war, much like von Clausewitz. He never commanded any armies. Anyways, Forrest was the first to use a blitzkrieg-like strategy, getting his soldiers there faster than anyone thought possible, following his policy of "getting there first with the most men". Rommel was arguably the greatest tank commander ever, defeating much larger British and American forces even while having consistently low supplies and little air support. Patton was basically his American opposite, a master at using armor and infantry to clear massive swathes of territory quickly. As for Nelson, well, he won the battle that prevented Napoleon from attacking England, suffering a fatal wound in the process, and still commanding his fleet after being hit. I think that makes him eligible.Quote:
Originally Posted by Adine
If Rommel had been at the D-Day beaches, there would have been no success for the Allies. The Desert Fox would have wiped them off. Luckily it was his wife's B-day.
You forget the art of war is required reading in the military and Sun Tzu very much did comand an army i forget under who though
I'd go for Nelson, he bashed them Frenchies.
so did Ceasar .
Who had more troops?
I voted for Erwin Rommel. As far as I am concerned if it wasn't for German High Command holding him back he could have conquered the world.
To quote one of my favorite games "However, High Command had lost its way, and Germany was soon to follow".