Its pretty clear that they are no releasing all new AgeII servers with this feature and they seem to be happy with how its all working.
Question is how long if ever before it is rolled out to the previous servers?
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Its pretty clear that they are no releasing all new AgeII servers with this feature and they seem to be happy with how its all working.
Question is how long if ever before it is rolled out to the previous servers?
Im looking forward to a responce from this spawn.Id love to see a roll back to older servers.
Agreed, Na12 is getting pretty stale lately - an Conquest mode/Attack button or whatever would def put some juice back into it.
Absolutely... NA8 could definitely use an attack button. May actually give me a good reason to start buying adv tele's again.... hmm just like old times!
I personally think it would be great to see the attack button on the older Age II servers. However, I do not believe they will change them or at least not for a very long time.
It's business people. Evony wants money and rightly so. They are a business. So they are probably studying the revenue streams of the newer servers with the attack button as well as testing technical aspects.
I am sure they are doing a number of other things as well. Like player feedback. Both experienced AND new player feedback.
aye, you really CANT have an evony game without the option of flat out CONQUERING another players cities, now Im only on server na20, so it HAS the attack option. but I imagine playing WITHOUT one, and i shudder to think how BORING it would get eventually. Most people on Na20 attack with enough to wipe out most of the players resources (me included) and than Colonize the player being attacked unless they conquer the city.
Yeah pretty much theringmaster, We have all seen that colonizing only fails, war's never really end, which makes them pointless, My alliances has been at war with the same alliance for months, we win every encounter, and have 90% of them colonized, and in the end it's done nothing for us, we have all lost much more troops then the tribute pays for, and in the end we would have been better off not fighting each other at all, and just been playing farmville style, which is needless to say not what evony is about. Most good players have learn not to colonize ppl unless there inactive, b/c it's almost never a good investment of your troops. It will be a welcome change, and it also means my alliance can end this stalemate war we have been in for months.
I have a feeling that if they do this some people who havent played age1 will complain when they wake up missing a city
Maybe they should open a carebear server then? And then everyone who's butt hurts can play farmvile.
The Devs saod in their moderated thread that if they bring the "attack" button to A2. They would make it an optional "opt in" kind of thing. Those that want to use it can only use it against those that also want it. Those that want to stay on the purely colonization option get to stay with that system. I have always worried about a scenario where thw alliances with the "atk" button are at war. But alliance be is sistered by 5 none atk button alliances. So alliance A is going to get wiped out cause alliances C. D. E. F are throwing all their troops at alliance A and alliance B is running in top mop up and raze their extra cities.
That is why I have advocated for better colonization perks. Alliance A should be able to go and virtually shut down all those "farmville" alliances. As some so affectionately call them.
Don't Worry Kaiya when it comes out chances that it will be optional are dropping fast with each new server the put it on without a option.
Im on na21 and the attack button is a great addition. Without NPC's staying anymore (which really blows) I need to be able to feed my armies somehow. I was on one earlier na server as well, and without the attack ability its just flat out boring. Gates are always closed, no one is willing to fight on the older servers and people cry a lot. The new servers amaze me with the amount of people who are trying to do the same with closed gates. Personally I wipe out almost anyone I come across with multiple cities to eliminate a future threat, and wiping out alliances like in age1 is much more fun too. I think they need to enact a few things to the new servers however from na20 on forth. Limit how many HH's any one person can have. Leave NPC's in the game. It helps eliminate the need to plunder noobs who are saving up their resources to build their army when we are able to make an NPC field and farm it. Basically make it age1 with the age2 twists. Cause age1 was beast, but the addition of the progressive building looks, the upper level historic cities, and colonizing is all fun, with armor upgrades too, but taking away the teeth that age1 had will eventually drive people away from the game.
Is there any news on when (if) the attack option will become available to the early age 2 servers? With the recent changes made to historic cities the incentive to continue playing is evaporating - particular for those who have invested a lot of time and money and do not wish to join the new servers.
That is what I am afraid of Spawn. The Devs said in a Dev post that it would be an opt in situation. That is why I spent the money to buy medals and hero gear and 9 adv TP and stuff. Not to mention the time to learn the game. Make allies and form new friendships with people on our server. (Grimmace rocks btw) also add in the fact that I sacrifice my personal troops and resources and time trying to establish a reputable "beginners" alliance for new players who want to chk out Evony and get a lil boost to start. like if someone joins and is willing to rank up after week one to prinz and grab 9 npc 10s I would point them to your alliance. I would say. "Hey grimmace, got a guy over here. Wants to run in your pack. He is wiiling to spend and do whatever to join you. Please email him and tell him how to set up his cities." Or if he wants to log in for 30 minutes a day for a month or two. To feel it out and learn bout it. He can too.
I do not want to be a top player. I also admit that I tend to enjoy the logistic side of things. Like in Eve online. I was a corp/alliance mining coordinator. I organized mining operation of 300 people. I also flew a carrier. So I did a lot of null security transportation for people. I was just about to start up an alliance jump freighter service when I realized I needed to take a break cause I knew more about the game and my rig then I did about anything else. I lost friends cause I always wanted to get one more load of ore into my Rorqual or run one more gate camp. Just for fun.
In evony I did move too fast in my opinion. Learned some thing the wrong way. But I am better for it now. But I never would gotten this far if I did not believe that the Devs would keep their word. I think I may even be the biggest advocate for needing a change to the colonization rewards. As well as the core game. That is why I flood the suggestion forum with ideas. Good or bad. They can be seen and discussed.
You represent the coiners that want to play hard and leave a blazing trail behind you. I represent the coiner that wants more but does not want to left with one city and getting plundered every 5 minutes. That is why I push for the split system and the higher colony benefits and to try to identify the problems before they are implimented. Like people entering atk mode capping your cities and retreating back to colony mode before you get home from work.
I always expected the atk button to come back. Just not the same ole rules as Age 1. What is the purpose of A2 if it is just a no refuge version of Age 1?
You think troops are bad now? Wait til plunder goes into effect. All those inactives? Just Wow. Millions of food out there completely un gaurded. Including the 200 million I kpp in my production city cause it has no farms. Easy fix. Buy food when needed for building. But still. I do not play with no refuge. I feel like it is cheap and exploitive. But that view is slowly changing as my newer members keep getting farmed by noob farmers that want to draft 200 archers and steal crappy heroes. Just cause they can.
lets see pending on how evony wants to "level the playing field" this makes even less sense than taking out all the crap they did they other day bc now they have to know damn with all the ****ed of evony players the last thing we should do is to implement an attack button we already screwed up loosing all the high paying players now with attack button they would loose all the $5-$30 spenders as well from being wiped out from the bigger players outta rage so personally this would also make no sense for them to do even though i am 110% all for an attack button i mean really colonizing is boring but lookin at this from an evony point of view it would just loose them more money when all the smaller players quit thus forcing a some what cluster f******* way to be in bc then less players = more boring then future servers merges which would totally and completely turn everything into chaos
so anyways i dont see it coming even though i desperately want it to come
An attack button is hugely needed across the old NA servers. My server is slowly becoming deserted and is getting very stale, majority of my enemies within my state have been colonized yet they stay together although how bad they are and pest you by stealing your valleys etc... Everything has come to a stand still and its starting to get boring. An attack button produces much better pVp's and stops enemies from being annoying.
To be honest, from what i can see, evony completely ignored all the players suggesting a great way to merge the attack option in with the age 2 players: conquest mode/ colonize mode. As they have done this, to roll back the current attack system, they might as well just call it age I, or hell for the same effect just add colonization to age I and call it age II. Again, thats from what i can tell. Im on 22 and 23 and it looks as if anyone can attack anyone just for looing at them funny =/. If i wanted to be crushed because some person larger than me grew bored, there are plenty of other games for that, i appreciated not being able to be anihalated for no reason.
And this part here?
that is the reason why my days in the new servers are going to be short lived, no chance to play? Screw it, ill play something else.:duh:
Allow attack from HC. Then people fight like crazy over HCs. You can use HCs to support your HC army. If someone in an HC is attacking you, you attack back and take it.
Attacking becomes a perk for the player who is willing to work for it.
Hmm an attack button ................. =)
Thats exactly what is needed to be added to older servers should make the game better.
I hope it isnt any problems for evony =)
i think a servey of each server asking the people on those servers what they would prefer would be the way to go as there are some people who would not be able to stand the heat of an all out attack server.....jp
this way evony can round up all the woosys and put them all on 1 colonize only server
and what a lonely place that would be
I highly doubt they will add it to existing servers, no money in it for them if they do. Right now they have a lot of experienced players who are looking for a new challenge. If they can offer this challenge on the newer servers only then these people will migrate to them and start spending heavily to get a lead on others. Seems to be working well so far, every new server seem to fill quite quickly and I am constantly hearing from older players who say soon as a new server opens I am moving to it.
Some players have spent alot of cash building up accounts on older Age:2 servers. If you spent alot of cash would you abandon your account just to move to a new server and start again? I know alot of peeps who are waiting for evony to add attack button on older servers and from what i hear theyd rather quit evony altogether than have to join a new server to start again just to play attack style.
Also what will evony do with the older servers once the activity on them has died? Mergers? lol
You have it backwards.....People who spent money on non-attack servers don't feel any need to spend any money at all when there is nothing to do. They are not going to respend this amount on new servers just to get attack button; they might spend this amount on new servers to start over for other reasons. The new servers always fill up and did even before attack button, for these other reasons (people learn game then want to start over with knowledge, people want to get HHs early, etc)
Simply put, revenue from non-attack button servers will head (is heading) towards zero. The only way to keep people spending in these servers is to add attack button. I fall into this category. Haven't spent a dime since they nerfed the HC draft and the HC troop setup, nor will I spend again...unless...they add attack button, in which case the server once again becomes viable.
I wit you on that one ^^
I still annoyed at the way the HC draft thing went down and aint spent a single penny since then either. Attack button i thought was being tested on the newer servers so I keep hoping they bring it to the older servers, but i only prepared to wait so long.....else it'll be game over for me too. I pretty sure many other peeps on the older servers feel the same way about the game not being interesting/fun on the older servers anymore. Theres only so many HC's you can take before losing the thrill of taking them. Also since the rewards for taking them (the drafts) were changed, i dont think they are really worth the hassle. We all know what colonizing players is worth. So really for me, attack button would be the best way forward.
The least evony can do is announce that there will be no attack button on older servers so we all know where we stand. Or if there will be, tell us there will be and give a rough indication of when it will come into play.
i cant even draft off 90% of my normal colonies only draft off about 4 of about 30 colonies
Its been a week since someone posted in here so I just want to see it stay alive. I'm on NA19 and yes, the bore of not being able to attack is starting to settle in. I don't want to colonize players who will then just hide their troops and sprout up again like weeds so I have to colonize them again. Its tireless almost unrewarding work. Also its to the point where you can't hit anyone in an alliance anymore because they can reinforce for the suppression battle. Is a city with 10 lvl 7 iron mines and 10 mills worth tying up a million troops for 8 hours?
The story has been told over and over that in age2 one isn't (theoretically) supposed to have to support millions of troops in the cities. Well I call bs on that if I don't have an attack button and have to settle for colonizing against active alliance players with lvl 10 embassies. A player who is somewhat smart will keep their gates open and allow for garrisoning of troops. A real alliance will then flood the embassy and poof 1million troops to stop the suppression.
Attack button please!?! Maybe Evony is holding out so it can be a player xmas gift?
I'd love to post what I wanna say, but I know Evony and my post would never see the light of day, but i've read the news stories and investigations into the company.
However I am Vice Host of FEARLESS on NA24, and I can honest to god say, the Attack button is the best update to happen in a long time. It's so much more fun, there's no fun in going to war with an alliance, colonizing all their members, then war over, instead we've been able to cap every city the enemy has but their 1 remaining city, turn them into NPC's and colonize the cities we can't cap.
Has made the game 100 times better to play, althought I agree Evony I doubt will roll this into previous servers, they ain't interested in keeping this game good to play, they just want the money people spend, there are bugs and glitches all in the game that need fixing that they havn't bothered with, they're just interested in getting new servers which people will spend $1000's to be one of the lead players which most of them still won't get to be, and then Evony sit there laughing.
I understand they are a business and need to make money, but Evony are taking the micky, there is making money, and then there is daylight robbery, if they can't even fix basic bugs they don't deserve to be getting paid.
*stands up to give a standing ovation*
This is how most players on na servers 1-19 feel. The attack button has to be roll back to the previous servers. With only the colonize button, there is almost no reason for major alliances to battle any more. Since in the end each side will lose countless troops due to not being able to fully suppress the target city. Making most wars between the top 10 alliances stalemate wars most of the time.
I never played age1 but have tried some of the new servers that have the attack button and must say that having an attack button will help bring back some life into the colonize only servers. It would also help bring wars to an end allowing new ones to start. This is common and sense and should be an easy business decison. Give the people what they want. Give us the attack button on the early na servers.
yeah from what i know the attack button was being tested on newer servers. Testing - i thought meant that perhaps this attack button would be put on older servers eventually. Maybe it will, maybe it wont. Least evony could do is say yes or no so we all know where we stand. Any mods know whats going on? :rofl: lol :rofl:
Just bring back Plunder. Leave caping out of it if its too much.
I didn't do it because I figured that would be the exact response I'd get from the support staff. I haven't once spoken to anyone who has had a positive experience with the helpspot to date. Whats the worst thing that will happen though? I guess, they'll just close my tickets before they bother to ignore them LOL
Firing off a ticket now.
the responce I got from evony
either theyQuote:
Dear Customer,
Thank you for contacting Evony Customer Service.
Please check if the players are in holiday mode or in truce. In addition, you can't attack your alliance members and friendly alliances. In these cases, you can't perform an attack on them.
Please let me know if you have any other questions or need further assistance.
Best Regards,
Jimmy
Customer Service
Evony Team
A. don't actually take the messages seriously
B. don't pay attention to all the information
C. think the servers are supposed to have the attack button
D. all of the above
I will send a clarification email and report my findings. It might help if others send in tickets? I hate to say that because it takes focus away from other peoples issues but I can see no other way to have this addressed
The attack button is not going to make anyone happy. Sure, everyone will be like "Thanks!" for the first month. After that everyone will start complaining again that Age II is boring, blah blah blah....
Having the attack button is NOT going to make the game more interesting or engaging. Age II is very complex as it is and I have JUST STARTED to have fun after 6 MONTHS of building up my start levels, heros, cities, etc...
Have any of you who are complaining about the attack button even bothered to try and take Atlantis or state captials from enemies? Have you even succeeded? No. So stop yapping and go take some key historicals from enemies. THERE is your attack button. THERE is your fun. THERE is your not boring game. For the love of god... Calgon, take me away...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HvE65VOcAL0
Did you just copy that from other thread? :rofl:
http://bbs.evony.com/showthread.php?t=151469