Age II Beginners Overview

Age II Beginners Overview

This is for INEXPERIENCED players who are new to the game. This is not for players who have gamed on Age I nor for advanced Age II players.

The purpose of this guide is to help inexperienced players build up nice and strong so they can compete with stronger players later in the game. This guide will not cover many technical aspects but is designed to help new players understand the bigger picture so they do not get discouraged and quit.

Note: If you DO NOT want the cities you work hard to build up destroyed by others, then be sure to play on an Age II server that does not allow the capturing of player made cities. Be sure to play on an Age II server that allows you to play strictly in colonize mode if you choose to do so.

Strong heros as well as being able to produce lots of troops within a short period of time are the key to being a strong player. First step is to get your title up to Baron so you can build at least 4 cities. Second step is build up all of your 4 cities. Third step is to build up your heros. DO NOT worry if a stronger player colonizes you. Just keep building up your cities. This will take you 1 month or many months depending on how much time you put into the game. During this build up process keep your gates closed at all times. Do this by clicking on your Rally Spot and making sure that the ?Open Gates to Fight? box is NOT CHECKED.

First, follow these 33 steps to reach the title of Knight:
http://bbs.evony.com/showthread.php?t=129051

Once you reach Knight you can build 2 cities. Build these two cities ASAP with the following structure:

7 cottages
16 barracks
1 of every other building
NO WAREHOUSES
18 Farms
9 saw mills
9 iron mines
1 quarry

Quarries produce stone. But you can also acquire stone by building a market place and BUYING stone from the market. This method is better. If you do not have enough gold to buy stone, simply sell some other materials first to get more gold.

If you want to know what each building does or what it's purpose is you can find out by reading the building description in the game. Or you can ask your alliance or the forums. Later in the game as you advance some buildings will become unnecessary.

Building your Academy is important. It will allow you to "research" specific things that will help you advance in the game. It is a good idea to build a level 9 Academy in each city and "research" each item in the academy up to level 10 EXCEPT for Privateering and Stockpile.

For every title advancement you get to build one additional city. Each player can build 10 cities max. That means there are 10 titles you can acquire. To learn how to build a new city please ask the forums or your in-game alliance if you have one.


Next, build lots of warriors in both cities. You will need thousands and thousands of warriors.

Next, follow the Quests > Promotion to get your title up to Baron ASAP. This will require you to ?hunt? or ?farm? for the medals required to reach that title. If you do not know how to do this then please ask the forums or your in-game alliance. You will need to use lots of warriors to farm/hunt for medals. So start hunting for medals AFTER your initial two cities have been built up.

Once you reach Baron you will be able to build 4 cities max. At this point you will be able to build 2 additional cities. Build the 2 additional cities all at the SAME TIME and the exact same as your first two. By building the additional 2 cities at the same time you will maximize your efficiency. Basically you can build 2 cities in the same time it takes to build 1. For example, Townhall will take 3 hours to upgrade. Well, if you upgrade Townhall in 2 cities at the same time then they will ALL finish within 3 hours.

Once you have your 4 cities built up to level 9 everything you will be ready to get serious. At this point you will be able to produce lots of troops in a short period of time as well as begin farming for resources which is key to growth. Ask the forums or your in-game alliance about how to farm effectively. Also, ask the forums or your in-game alliance about how to produce troops by setting your production rate to 0, training them, then setting production back to 100%.

As troops finish training use the troops to attack Level 5-9 Barbarian cities. This will ?level up? your heros. In your feasting hall only keep 1 political hero and 3 attack heros. Fill up the rest of your feasting hall with ?junk? heros. You will invest LOTS of time leveling up your politic and attack heros. You do not want another player to capture them. This is why you want to keep your feasting hall filled with mostly junk heros so the chances of a stronger player capturing one of your good heros is greatly reduced. To learn how to level up your heros as well as apply special hero gear please ask the forums or your in-game alliance.

During your buildup process your cities will more than likely be colonized. Being colonized means that another player has SOME control over your cities but not enough to really hurt you that much. The player who colonized you will take a portion of your resources and troops. But do not be alarmed. Just keep building up and prepare to rid yourself of them AFTER you have your 4 cities built up and can produce lots of troops.

Once you have your 4 cities at full operation and can mass produce troops in a short period of time, you will be in a position to rid yourself of the oppressor. To do this you will need to ?Uprise?. Ask the forums or your in-game alliance about how to uprise. Before you uprise be sure to build up your wall defenses. If your uprise is successful then you will be free of your oppressor and they cannot take portions of your troops and resources anymore. At this point you will be in a position to properly defend your cities from players who want to colonize you. To learn how to properly defend your cities please ask the forums or your in-game alliance.

At this point you can fly on your own and will have probably learned enough in the building and hero leveling process to be a serious contender in the game.

I have said this too other beginner guides, not too many people starting out go to the forum to check out a guide, this one isent to big either, the noobs will likely play and very few will view this guide before they start playing evony. Thats the trouble with the beginner guides..... I dont feel like to critique it either...It has quite a few basic errors.

18 farms... ROFL, no mention of building ballistas to farm either

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Originally Posted by *jdm*

18 farms... ROFL, no mention of building ballistas to farm either

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He's right, you only need farms for the first few weeks or so until you get balltistas, sawmills are more important because they sell for a lot. And 16 barracks? A beginner can only built about 1000 warriors anyways. Please edit the guide, and +rep for taking the time to make this guide.

Instead of trying to give people advice, maybe you should take some advice for a change.

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Originally Posted by japanpimp

Age II Beginners Overview

please ask the forums or your in-game alliance if you have one.


If you do not know how to do this then please ask the forums or your in-game alliance.
the forums or your in-game alliance
please ask the forums or your in-game alliance.

. To do this you will need to ?Uprise?. Ask the forums or your in-game alliance about how to uprise.
please ask the forums or your in-game alliance.

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instead of saying that actually explain how to do it since this is supposed to be a guide

i agree, instead of beginners scrambling for a rank up, how about focussing on main city first (fortress) then the expansion city after (feeder)
that way the main city continues to develope at a high rate, and the second city developes slowly, all the while, your main city is also gaining resources from second city for the high lv builds needed.

Since you making a guide for inexperienced players I dont think you need to go into too much depth on how to actually layout their city. Maybe just touch on the importance of having alotta barracks. Also the importance of heros and how to use them is a big topic. Intelligence heros are very important to speed up research and politics mayors will be very important to speed up building times and attack heros for builidng troops. Also the guide you linked to above is not clear to new inexperienced players that you can do free speed-ups on certain buildings under 5-min build time.
Also you suggest buying stone. Why not suggest building 1 farm and 1 quarry and the rest sawmill or iron mines or both? And then selling the excess lumber for the resources you need?
Also you have nothing on walls defences in your guide. Also nothing about which research is more important than the others etc. Also you talk about getting to duke and having 8 cities. Alot of the reason people get colonized so easily is they have more cities than they can defend. I know you need more cities for higher production(of troops etc) but you must also be able to defend your property if need be. One of the best defences in my opinion is being in a good alliances. You should explain the importance of this also.
I think you should also lay your guide out more with sub headings and split things up into sections. Would make easier to read. Good start tho.

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Originally Posted by crappyservers

I have said this too other beginner guides, not too many people starting out go to the forum to check out a guide, this one isent to big either, the noobs will likely play and very few will view this guide before they start playing evony. Thats the trouble with the beginner guides..... I dont feel like to critique it either...It has quite a few basic errors.

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True, beginners don't really go to the forums, more advanced players do. I am going to point new players to this guide though because that way I don't need to keep repeating the same stuff over and over everytime a new player posts in the forums or joins my alliance.

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Originally Posted by *jdm*

18 farms... ROFL, no mention of building ballistas to farm either

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Farming is a whole nother level of guide. That is why I said this is an overview more than a guide. It will give new players a better grasp on things so they don't get discouraged and quit just because their 1 city got colonized our of beginners protection. Farming guides and so on are things that advanced players like you and Woldere can and do write up. Which is why I tell the reader to ask the forums numerous times instead of getting into details.

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Originally Posted by *jdm*

instead of saying that actually explain how to do it since this is supposed to be a guide

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See above statement.

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Originally Posted by OGKILLAH

Since you making a guide for inexperienced players I dont think you need to go into too much depth on how to actually layout their city. Maybe just touch on the importance of having alotta barracks. Also the importance of heros and how to use them is a big topic. Intelligence heros are very important to speed up research and politics mayors will be very important to speed up building times and attack heros for builidng troops. Also the guide you linked to above is not clear to new inexperienced players that you can do free speed-ups on certain buildings under 5-min build time.
Also you suggest buying stone. Why not suggest building 1 farm and 1 quarry and the rest sawmill or iron mines or both? And then selling the excess lumber for the resources you need?
Also you have nothing on walls defences in your guide. Also nothing about which research is more important than the others etc. Also you talk about getting to duke and having 8 cities. Alot of the reason people get colonized so easily is they have more cities than they can defend. I know you need more cities for higher production(of troops etc) but you must also be able to defend your property if need be. One of the best defences in my opinion is being in a good alliances. You should explain the importance of this also.
I think you should also lay your guide out more with sub headings and split things up into sections. Would make easier to read. Good start tho.

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Ok, good feedback. Since this is a thread the reader can read through the comments like yours and get even a better grasp on things.

Again, the purpose is not to give the reader specific technical and indepth details. But to "setup" the complete noob so they don't get discouraged and stay focused on building up.

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Originally Posted by Gamerman

He's right, you only need farms for the first few weeks or so until you get balltistas, sawmills are more important because they sell for a lot. And 16 barracks? A beginner can only built about 1000 warriors anyways. Please edit the guide, and +rep for taking the time to make this guide.

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Thanks. Exactly, the city layout I specify is for complete noobs who have little concept about the market place, iron cities, wood cities, etc... Just plain vanilla cities that produce a good balance of all resources yet can crank some troops with no farming required. Beginners are clueless to farming.

even if it is an "overview" dont give BLATANTLY wrong information

The information I provided is not BLATANTLY wrong.
You are trying to talk about Ballistas and farming in your previous post and saying that 18 farms is not needed. This is an overview for new players. They have no concept of farming. Farming and ballistas are for AFTER you get your cities built up and need to level up heros and farm for food. Far too advanced for new players. Baby steps my friend, baby steps. Not information overload. New players need simple, plain, vanilla cities that that give them almost everything they need without the need to farm. They can reference other guides for more advance game play like making iron/wood cities, leveling up heros, farming, medal hunting, etc....
Again, what I explained is just fine.

JP kudos for this.

might even send noobs into here too.
just bare in mind that one farm generall wont hold up long.
with lv4 town hall i keep 5 farms, 3 quarries, 5 iron mines, the rest is lumber.

reason, because i can get a good 6 hours sleep, go out for 2-3 hours for a ride, spend time at a cafe for coffee and a smoke (yes im a smoker)

then when i come back, i can push the limits again, generally it gets more done, faster, with out being up on evony for more than 5 hours if im lucky :)

No offense, but having learned the game without the help of any guides and evaluating what I did right and wrong when I found the forum guides and tweaked things, I have to say that I feel sorry for anyone who follows this guide.

It was much more efficient for me to focus on one or two resources when I was a noob. I focused on lumber. Had two cities that did nothing but lumber. I should have done 1 lumber an 1 iron. Point being- I bought all the food I needed from the market with profits I made selling my spare lumber. I quickly had 1 billion gold. Then 2 billion.

Of course, one reason that I grew my gold reserve so fast was that I didn't have to buy food off the market ever again after I made my first NPC farming hit on a level 5 with ballista and transports. I got all the food I needed for myself simply by farming for exp. Yeah, I didn't care about the food at all- just wanted to level my heroes and the food was a bonus.

But yeah, I would advise knowing more about the game before you make a guide japanpimp. I never played Age I. I started with Age II and learned on my own in the beginning. I am glad I didn't have this guide to work with when I was new because I see a lot of holes in it. Resources are the most important thing to set up when you are new as they allow you to grow faster when you set yourself up right. I think you have failed with the concept of resource priority and management.

No offense intended- I'm just giving feedback.

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Originally Posted by Warbuck

No offense, but having learned the game without the help of any guides and evaluating what I did right and wrong when I found the forum guides and tweaked things, I have to say that I feel sorry for anyone who follows this guide.

It was much more efficient for me to focus on one or two resources when I was a noob. I focused on lumber. Had two cities that did nothing but lumber. I should have done 1 lumber an 1 iron. Point being- I bought all the food I needed from the market with profits I made selling my spare lumber. I quickly had 1 billion gold. Then 2 billion.

Of course, one reason that I grew my gold reserve so fast was that I didn't have to buy food off the market ever again after I made my first NPC farming hit on a level 5 with ballista and transports. I got all the food I needed for myself simply by farming for exp. Yeah, I didn't care about the food at all- just wanted to level my heroes and the food was a bonus.

But yeah, I would advise knowing more about the game before you make a guide japanpimp. I never played Age I. I started with Age II and learned on my own in the beginning. I am glad I didn't have this guide to work with when I was new because I see a lot of holes in it. Resources are the most important thing to set up when you are new as they allow you to grow faster when you set yourself up right. I think you have failed with the concept of resource priority and management.

No offense intended- I'm just giving feedback.

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No offense taken my friend. But I have just as much experience as you then. I have been playing Age II since it first went live in April. I only played Age I for 1 month in March. And I have been online almost everyday since April for at least 3 hours on average. I also worked myself up to a top 200 player and top heros on the server all while being colonized. So I think I know a thing or two.
As for your point, it is taken. But you are one of the rare few. I have been running my alliance since April too. And if you have ever run an alliance for months on end you know that most of the new players have no idea about the market, farming or any of the other tactics you used to help you grow fast. You obviously had someone explain things to you along the way. My overview if for players completely new to the game. When you logged in to Evony for the very first time did you know that you get 3 extra resource fields each time you upgrade town hall? New players don't even know simple stuff like that. So how are they supposed to know about creating lumber cities when they barely know what a resource field is?

So my experience is coming from two places:
1. Having to go through it myself as a complete noob to the game in March.
2. Running my alliance since April and dealing with countless new players.

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No offense taken my friend. But I have just as much experience as you then. I have been playing Age II since it first went live in April. I only played Age I for 1 month in March. And I have been online almost everyday since April for at least 3 hours on average. I also worked myself up to a top 200 player and top heros on the server all while being colonized. So I think I know a thing or two.

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Originally Posted by Woldere

Instead of trying to give people advice, maybe you should take some advice for a change.

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you see where I'm going with this ?

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So my experience is coming from two places:
1. Having to go through it myself as a complete noob to the game in March.
2. Running my alliance since April and dealing with countless new players.

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My experience comes from being the Vice Host of two alliances on Na14- the current one being the top alliance on the server, being the #8 ranked player in prestige (without turning in medals for prestige- as prestige is pretty much useless) and #4 by title, owning 2 of the top 10 historic heroes on the server, and well- I don't need to go on because this isn't a contest.

When I was new- I saw lumber was the most expensive item on the market- and there was a quest to build a market btw- so noobs know about markets. So I made as many sawmills as possible- I didn't need to be told. I actually filed a bug report because I had filled up all the resource plots for my level 4 town hall and couldn't build any more sawmills and didn't know I needed to upgrade the town hall.

I quickly realized that resources were going to be important in the game, and that without a good build I would slow myself down.

Now- I understand that you like playing from a colonized position, but I consider that a weak position and a defeatist position. Most prestige farmers are colonies. If you are active- it isn't hard to make it to the top 200 at all. In fact, I once scouted the #6 ranked person in prestige on Na14 at the time and saw that he had almost no troops there. Prestige is pretty worthless unless you use it as a deterrent.

My point is that 99% of people don't want to be colonies. If you like it, fine. But most people view colonization as a defeat. Your credentials don't impress me that much and I honestly think you need to learn the game more fully before giving advice.

I own a historic city and helped in the capture of 4 other ones. How many do you own? How many colonies have you captured? Have you completed your queen quest yet? I think you need to play the other side of the game to understand some of the more advanced concepts.

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Originally Posted by Warbuck

My experience comes from being the Vice Host of two alliances on Na14- the current one being the top alliance on the server, being the #8 ranked player in prestige (without turning in medals for prestige- as prestige is pretty much useless) and #4 by title, owning 2 of the top 10 historic heroes on the server, and well- I don't need to go on because this isn't a contest.

When I was new- I saw lumber was the most expensive item on the market- and there was a quest to build a market btw- so noobs know about markets. So I made as many sawmills as possible- I didn't need to be told. I actually filed a bug report because I had filled up all the resource plots for my level 4 town hall and couldn't build any more sawmills and didn't know I needed to upgrade the town hall.

I quickly realized that resources were going to be important in the game, and that without a good build I would slow myself down.

Now- I understand that you like playing from a colonized position, but I consider that a weak position and a defeatist position. Most prestige farmers are colonies. If you are active- it isn't hard to make it to the top 200 at all. In fact, I once scouted the #6 ranked person in prestige on Na14 at the time and saw that he had almost no troops there. Prestige is pretty worthless unless you use it as a deterrent.

My point is that 99% of people don't want to be colonies. If you like it, fine. But most people view colonization as a defeat. Your credentials don't impress me that much and I honestly think you need to learn the game more fully before giving advice.

I own a historic city and helped in the capture of 4 other ones. How many do you own? How many colonies have you captured? Have you completed your queen quest yet? I think you need to play the other side of the game to understand some of the more advanced concepts.

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I know plenty about the game, enough to give advice as I have been playing it longer than you. Na14 came out far after Na4.
I have done all of the quests, colonized my 400 cities for my 10% drop increase, Priz title, got my queen and 2 historic heros. And not wasting my troops on L12's or other historics. Just building up for Atlantis. And all my politic, attack and intel heros are well above 400... all of that while being colonized. Need to get them all well over 500 so with excaliber and so on they can have around 700 attack for Atlantis.

You are right that many players do not WANT to be colonized. But sometimes they want to quit the game when they are. Why? Because they do not understand that they can still play the game and become strong even though they are colonized.

I want to help those players understand that they too can grow up nice and strong even though they are colonized and that being colonized is hardly a reason to feel discouraged.

Now, if you can write up a better overview to help these new players get their heads around the game, by all means, please help. We can use players like you to help the new ones. See, I want to help new players UNDERSTAND Age II. Not write up technical guides.

good luck with atlantis, from what i hear you need some 16s, but with the new policy mods, 16s are no longer viable targets :p

I probably could write a decent guide as I have for my alliance, but I do not have enough reputation on these forums for me to feel it is my place.

I still wouldn't recommend this guide, and that is simply my humble opinion on the matter. There are many things like keeping gates closed, the 18 farms, etc that I feel severely slow the growth of a new person. I also don't like advising people to just sit down and let themselves get colonized. And not training troops until you have level 9 barracks?

You also have a huge fascination with warriors, which are the weakest unit in the game and are useless except to kill off for experience and prestige (which is useless). I suppose this thread helps me understand why you've posted other things in other places about warriors and such that exhibit that you have little understanding of how worthless warriors are :/

If you want me to offer you advice on a guide in private, I can do that. But until I have more of a reputation on these forums, I do not feel it is my place to make any guides for the mass public.

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good luck with atlantis, from what i hear you need some 16s, but with the new policy mods, 16s are no longer viable targets :p

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Yeah, I honestly have no idea how I am going to go about Atlantis.
I don't know anyone who has capped it yet. So it is new territory for all of us. I certainly hope 16's are not needed because I do not plan to cap any other historicals. But how would anyone know that 16's are needed unless they capped 0,0 before? Just askin. Not attacking you. Just pointing out that nobody can really say because nobody is an Atlantis expert at this point.

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Yeah, I honestly have no idea how I am going to go about Atlantis.
I don't know anyone who has capped it yet. So it is new territory for all of us. I certainly hope 16's are not needed because I do not plan to cap any other historicals. But how would anyone know that 16's are needed unless they capped 0,0 before? Just askin. Not attacking you. Just pointing out that nobody can really say because nobody is an Atlantis expert at this point.

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Atlantis dropped on NA9.... I believe that 16s were part of the strategy.

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I probably could write a decent guide as I have for my alliance, but I do not have enough reputation on these forums for me to feel it is my place.

I still wouldn't recommend this guide, and that is simply my humble opinion on the matter. There are many things like keeping gates closed, the 18 farms, etc that I feel severely slow the growth of a new person. I also don't like advising people to just sit down and let themselves get colonized. And not training troops until you have level 9 barracks?

You also have a huge fascination with warriors, which are the weakest unit in the game and are useless except to kill off for experience and prestige (which is useless). I suppose this thread helps me understand why you've posted other things in other places about warriors and such that exhibit that you have little understanding of how worthless warriors are :/

If you want me to offer you advice on a guide in private, I can do that. But until I have more of a reputation on these forums, I do not feel it is my place to make any guides for the mass public.

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Hey Warbuck bro, we are all humans my man. Your brain is just as sharp as anyones. Who says that it is not your place to write guides? If people felt they needed "reputation" in order to contribute to a knowledgebase or help others then Wikis would not exist. And who says that only 5 forum members can write guides? Most of the guides I see come from 5 players:
Spawn
Woldere
Asamo
Satan
...and some other member I forgot.
It's like, if one of them did not write it then nobody will respect it. That is just plain wrong. In fact, I would ENCOURAGE you to write your own guide on whatever you want to. Heck, let's work on the overview together. We have firsthand experience because you and I are not really Age I players. We are strictly Age II players and have a perspective on things that players who came from Age I do not.

yeah i did read that a moment ago, posted there too. apparently the evony team decided to pick on the KHANS alliance for doing too well.
(the evony team being those who have power over the game and rewrite cod, not the mods who are in the forum, and yes i am aware of the consequences of this post, and a thought is a thought)

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yeah i did read that a moment ago, posted there too. apparently the evony team decided to pick on the KHANS alliance for doing too well.
(the evony team being those who have power over the game and rewrite cod, not the mods who are in the forum, and yes i am aware of the consequences of this post, and a thought is a thought)

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Ha!!! Fantastic, now we have to compete with the people who wrote the game.... lol, wow...
So player Domi now owns Atlantis on Na9. Alliance FEAR. Ranked #14 with only 26 members. Domi has 6.6 mil pres. I wonder how long they will be able to hold it?

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Ha!!! Fantastic, now we have to compete with the people who wrote the game.... lol, wow...
So player Domi now owns Atlantis on Na9. Alliance FEAR. Ranked #14 with only 26 members. Domi has 6.6 mil pres. I wonder how long they will be able to hold it?

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Probably until evony decides that they have an unfair advantage and NPCs it on them.....

I don't mind the city layout your giving ppl if they are noobs cause then they won't have to worry about farming.

I don't mind leaving out the farming because there are so many guides to that.

You lightly touched upon it but i think you should emphasize too new players that getting a steady stream of resources early is paramount to setting yourself up to succeed.

Also i think hitting lvl 1-5npcs with ballistae is much better for new players than the 6-9 with warrioirs that you recommend.


The biggest issue I have with the guide is where you say "Get to Duke". This is extremely hard for 99% of new players. I figure if a player can get to duke by getting help from alliance mates and reading the forum, i would no longer consider them a noob in most cases.

The number one thing I would tell a new a totally new age II is that if you don't plan on spending money its probably gonna take you more than one server to figure it out.

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Originally Posted by japanpimp

The information I provided is not BLATANTLY wrong.
You are trying to talk about Ballistas and farming in your previous post and saying that 18 farms is not needed. This is an overview for new players. They have no concept of farming. Farming and ballistas are for AFTER you get your cities built up and need to level up heros and farm for food. Far too advanced for new players. Baby steps my friend, baby steps. Not information overload. New players need simple, plain, vanilla cities that that give them almost everything they need without the need to farm. They can reference other guides for more advance game play like making iron/wood cities, leveling up heros, farming, medal hunting, etc....
Again, what I explained is just fine.

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farming isnt to advanced for new players, its actually simple and farming is one of the most important things in evony so noobs should learn how to do that as quickly as possible

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I don't mind the city layout your giving ppl if they are noobs cause then they won't have to worry about farming.

I don't mind leaving out the farming because there are so many guides to that.

You lightly touched upon it but i think you should emphasize too new players that getting a steady stream of resources early is paramount to setting yourself up to succeed.

Also i think hitting lvl 1-5npcs with ballistae is much better for new players than the 6-9 with warrioirs that you recommend.


The biggest issue I have with the guide is where you say "Get to Duke". This is extremely hard for 99% of new players. I figure if a player can get to duke by getting help from alliance mates and reading the forum, i would no longer consider them a noob in most cases.

The number one thing I would tell a new a totally new age II is that if you don't plan on spending money its probably gonna take you more than one server to figure it out.

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Good points. Emphasize farming and perhaps telling them to shoot for Duke is too high.

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Originally Posted by *jdm*

farming isnt to advanced for new players, its actually simple and farming is one of the most important things in evony so noobs should learn how to do that as quickly as possible

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Then I will highlight the importance of farming and strongly recommend new players to check out farming guides.

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Then I will highlight the importance of farming and strongly recommend new players to check out farming guides.

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thats good to hear

reading the posts in this thread makes it sound more like a guide on how to make a guide, or is it just me?

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reading the posts in this thread makes it sound more like a guide on how to make a guide, or is it just me?

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You had that feeling to? I had felt that aura about.

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reading the posts in this thread makes it sound more like a guide on how to make a guide, or is it just me?

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i feel this way also

congratulations to all in this thread so far.
JapanPimp has shown open mindedness for this one.

perhaps what could be done is all of those who have experience at training noobs combine exp and advise into one thread made by some one who is very well versed in the construction of a guide?

then that way, its a allmost infallible thread that a new player can easily decipher and use.

it would speed up the game a little and even with current said issues, it wouldnt affect new players until they decide to go for a 12.

also WB shinigami ichigo..... (shudders at the thought of solitary chat confinement )

Ok, edited first post and added suggestions.
I want this overview to be light and not too much info. But enough to help a completely new player grasp enough so they can plot their course and feel comfortable. As well help the new player not feel discouraged or threatened if they get attacked and want to quit the game.

i have never owned more then one farm per city. if you have a market place you can sell lumber for twice the price of food.

also playing from a colonized position is a matter of opinion ,and you should mention that in your guide that you can defend yourself and not get colonized

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We All Know How "Good" That Makes This Guide.. Its a Classic.. Pimp... Japanpimp.

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I give this guide a

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Jp/10...

We All Know How "Good" That Makes This Guide.. Its a Classic.. Pimp... Japanpimp.

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Need I quote anything else

I give this guide a

Japanpimp out of 10

Jp/10...

We All Know How "Good" That Makes This Guide.. Its a Classic.. Pimp... Japanpimp.

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Spawn, this is for absolute beginners.
you guys can't understand it because to you it makes no sense. Why? Because you have already went to "school" and 2+2 is way too easy for you. You are in advanced calculus. But absolute beginners don't even know what 2+2 is.

So to a complete beginner it really helps.

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also playing from a colonized position is a matter of opinion ,and you should mention that in your guide that you can defend yourself and not get colonized

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I already said that in the guide, you must have not seen it.
"At this point you will be in a position to properly defend your cities from players who want to colonize you. To learn how to properly defend your cities please ask the forums or your in-game alliance."


I am not telling new players to play from a colonized position. I am telling them not to worry and get discouraged if they are colonized. And if they are colonized to just keep building up so they can free themselves in the future.