Internet Restrictions - For or Against?

Internet restrictions should never be considered. To me, Wikileaks is probably the embodiment of freedom of speech and whistle blowing as of today which makes me wonder why everyone seems so angry over him. He did not take the information himself. He only acquired it from leaks within the respective governments.

By restricting the internet, you restrict the rights of speech and privacy.
Living in a self-claimed free society, such actions would be abhorrent and counterproductive.

http://i.imgur.com/gawiT.jpg

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Jurnis

As for posting it, the line gets a bit fuzzy there. Posting something legal but also meant to disturb the peace is of course abusing those freedoms and therefore I won't condone.

---

Do you believe in the Civil Rights Movement? It disrupted (and still disrupts to some) the peace but out of it came perhaps equality before the law. Activists abused their freedoms so your opinion should translate to the same result and opinion.

i many cases activist USED their freedoms to show that they should have them when they didnt. sitting where they did to show how restrictive it is to say "only this sociocultural group can sit here"
it was the sit ins and the peace marches that did the most for the freedom movements.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by imnothere

i many cases activist USED their freedoms to show that they should have them when they didnt. sitting where they did to show how restrictive it is to say "only this sociocultural group can sit here"
it was the sit ins and the peace marches that did the most for the freedom movements.

---

^^ This

Traditionally, a martyr is far more effective than a vigilante. I don't mean you have to die. I'm just saying that those who suffer for a cause seem to affect greater change than those who inflict suffering.

Who are the greatest catalysts for change in recent generations? Ghandi and MLK would be at the top of the list. They peacefully suffered for their causes. A small mob may rally behind someone who throws paint on a lady wearing a fur coat. But, a large population will empathize with a man forcibly removed from a peaceful demonstration.

the black panthers didnt get a holiday. your not going to find droves of school children all grateful to them for a day to play up trees and out of doors or on their wii if their parents wont let them play out side

One can interrupt peace without resorting to violence...

What peace are we talking about?
There are conflicts in Iraq and Afghanistan and serious risk of another conflict developing in Korea right now. Not to mention the possibillity of more conflicts in Yemen and Iran. Of course, let's not forget about the situation of ongoing conflict between Israel and Pallestine. Over the top of these is 'The War on Terror'. These are only the major conflicts/possible conflicts involving western nations. I won't go in to all the other smaller wars that are happening at this time. Peace is a myth right now.

Anyway, this is supposed to be about internet restrictions but let's keep in mind that restrictions can be used to keep us from learning too much information or hearing alternative viewpoints of world events.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Rodri

What peace are we talking about?

---

All forms of peace. Industrial, global, societal, economic, etc.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Rodri

Peace is a myth right now.

---

Peace isn't necessarily a myth, it's just relative.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Rodri

Anyway, this is supposed to be about internet restrictions but let's keep in mind that restrictions can be used to keep us from learning too much information or hearing alternative viewpoints of world events.

---

Security and liberty are the opposites of each other. For one to be secure, one must give up his or her freedoms. For one to be free, he or she must not be protected.

Personally i am against wikileaks and Julian Assange. There was better ways he could have put out the information without putting peoples lives at risk. But i am against Censorship of the internet in any form. Once the government decides who and what can go on the internet you walk a very fine line.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Moghedien

Personally i am against wikileaks and Julian Assange. There was better ways he could have put out the information without putting peoples lives at risk. But i am against Censorship of the internet in any form. Once the government decides who and what can go on the internet you walk a very fine line.

---

you just contradicted your self

you cant say "what he did is bad, but no one should be the judge of what is good or bad"

its one or the other. "i pass judgment on your actions" OR "no one should be able to pass judgment on the actions of another"

Whilst it is true that we give up some of our freedom to governments willingly to allow them to govern, we don't expect to be treated like potential enemies of the state by the same government that is supposed to be keeping us safe.

It seems strange to me that some governments use the excuse of 'keeping us safe' as an excuse to bring in more and more restrictions and invasions of privacy, when they are actually sending troops to fight in conflicts and look to be planning on even more conflicts to start up. Surely if these governments were really just interested in keeping their own populations safe, not starting wars might be a good start?