Vote my dig dawggity dawgs.
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And yes, I know Gaius is spelled wrong so don't tell me.
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Vote my dig dawggity dawgs.
http://img.youtube.com/vi/mD8bGnQQJ6A/0.jpg
And yes, I know Gaius is spelled wrong so don't tell me.
You can debate which person's ideals you agree with or disagree with. You can debate whether some people on the list truly existed or were a creation of writers. But, there is simply no contest that the legacy of the entity known as "Jesus" has had more influence on the globe, than any other person could hope to achieve.
I'm not 100% sure, but jesus isnt the most influenceful. Let us wikitimeQuote:
Originally Posted by Rota
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_100
But you can never really turst wikipedia. :P
AW SNAP Rota!Quote:
Originally Posted by Nathann
Muhammed was a close second. So, I asked this...
How much influence has Muhammed had on Christianity?
How much influence has Jesus had on Islam?
I believe Islamic people think about Jesus, far more than Christians think about Muhammed.
Whether you're a Christian or not, you have to admit that Jesus' teachings changed the lives of many people. True, Muhammad did the same, but look at Europe during the middle ages. And Europe colonized much of the world, making it spread farther. So you can't really say his teachings aren't widespread.
Oh, and sorry if I broke any rules by saying this. Lol.
Islamic people acknowledge Jesus as a prophet if I'm not mistaken, but they do not think of of him as anything but that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rota
Why is my name not on the list? :(
Besides, I was Buddha in a previous life, or I will be in a future life. It's hard to keep track when you dwell in Nirvarna.
They still acknowledge him more than Christians acknowledge Muhammed.Quote:
Originally Posted by slicendice
This isn't a poll about who is right, it's a poll about the cumulative influence on the world from each person. I simply believe Jesus has affected our world far more than any other.
Because I hate you. Nah, you're awright for an ass.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rodri
That's the way. Hate is energy and I need energy to keep my power-pack fully charged. I love your hate.Quote:
Originally Posted by Skirata
During the Medieval Period, Europe was inferior to the Eastern Mediterranean, the Middle East and North Africa culturally, politically and technologically. Excluding the Byzantine Empire which safeguarded Graeco-Roman civilization, maintained maritime control over the Black Sea, the Aegean Sea and the Adriatic Sea, and that greatly prospered from its trade with the Orient through its Anatolian provinces, Europe and especially Occidental Europe stagnated while the Eastern Mediterranean, the Middle East and North Africa were united by the Muslim empires or the Islamic caliphates. For example, the Umayyad Caliphate stretched from Iberia to the Indus River Valley while the Western European kingdoms were considerably smaller and diminutive and existed as a cluster of fractured states.Quote:
Originally Posted by joemanf
In addition, while Occidental Europe had stagnated, the Muslims experienced a golden age which coincided with the Abbasid Caliphate [750-1258 CE]. This Islamic golden age lasted from ca. 750-ca. 1250 and was marked with new advances in technology, astronomy and science and consisted of notable achievements in literature, philosophy, history and poetry. Indeed, the Muslims translated Classical Greek, Hellenistic and Roman texts and amalgamated Classical Greek and Roman philosophy with the Islamic religion. The two great Islamic philosophers Avicenna and Averroes greatly influenced Western European thinking by spreading the philosophy of Aristotle to the Occident. The spread of Aristotelian philosophy which triggered the movement of Scholasticism or Medieval Scholastic logic and acted as the foundation for the philosophies of St. Thomas Aquinas and Peter Abelard occurred due to the efforts of the great Muslim philosophers such as Avicenna and Averroes.
Oh, I agree. I wasn't saying that it was wrong. I was just sayin one reason that Jesus would be more influential.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rota
I'm rather curious as to how Jean-Jacques Rousseau ended up on the list for most influential, and not someone like Voltaire, Hobbes, Hume, Locke...?
As much as I admire Alexander the Great, I don't think he has as much influence on the world as we think. His empire only lasted his lifetime, which wasn't even that long. It wasn't a prosperous and beneficial empire, but a violent conquered territory. His influence wasn't very much.
I have to agree with Rota on his arguments concerning Jesus at this time.
I am not going to vote yet, but wait to see the other arguments.
Also, I recommend using people's full names in a poll. I know I'm being picky, but if you included Gautama Buddha and not Jesus Christ, just not showing equality.
Jesus' last name was not "Christ"Quote:
Originally Posted by Ghost101
hrm... What was Mary's surname?
People didn't really have last names then. Joseph was the son of Jacob, son of Matthan. So if Joseph had a last name his name would have been kinda like "Joseph Jacobson." So would Jesus be "Jesus Josephson"?
His surname would've either been what Rota said, or Jesus of Nazareth.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rota
My bad, total slip of my knowledge, I feel like an idiot. Yes it should be Jesus of Nazareth then. Nice correction ;)
In the debate between Muhammad and Jesus. If Jesus had influenced so much of Islams culture, religion, or w.e, then wouldnt that have also meant that Muhammad was influenced by Jesus as well, so in turn Muhammad's teachings would have come from that of Jesus's? Making Jesus the most infulencial person/entity in history by the theory of Indirect Influence?
Thats just my 2 cents. and I know a whole lot of nothing. So yea... Fun debate though
to bad you can only have 10 canidates
Well if you really want to get into it, three major religions all started from the same source, being The Old Testament up to Abraham at least. That is where where Islam splits away from Judeo-Christian theology. So all Jews claim kinship to Abraham through his som Isaac and the prophet Muhammed claims kinship to Abraham via his son Ishmael.
(Christianity split from Judaism after the time of Jesus of course.)
So all three religions can trace their roots and their basic beliefs back to Moses, who is believed to have written the books of Genesis, Exodus etal. So why isn't Moses on the list?
Good post. +repQuote:
Originally Posted by Rodri
3 faiths separated by a common God. :(
Moses
please include "none of the above" so that i can vote next time
"The safest general characterization of the European philosophical tradition is that it consists of a series of footnotes to Plato."
-Alfred North Whitehead, Process and Reality, p. 39 [Free Press, 1979]
Closing, since it's turned into a religious discussion thread.