Something fun that I learned about the four forces.

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03-17-2011, 09:55 PM
Oss Spy

Something fun that I learned about the four forces.

1. Gravity
2. The strong nuclear force
3. The weak nuclear force
4. Electromagnetism

1. I don't have the time to explain it briefly...the particle that mediates gravity is the Graviton. It has yet to be detected, but string theory explains why and why it is weak (compared to the other three forces.) For more information I suggest you research it.

2. Mediated by "virtual" particles known as Gluans. It is responsible for keeping quarks (which are constituents of protons and neutrons) held together, and for keeping protons and neutrons bound in a nucleus. A virtual particle is a photon that spontaneuously creates a normal and anti version of that particle, which quickly annihilate to turn back into a photon (look at the Heisenburg Uncertainty Principle for more information.) A curious property of the strong force is that the farther quarks get away from each other, the stronger the force is felt. Eventually you will reach the distance at which the Strong Force is ineffective, but that will take so much energy that you will have created another quark. As such, quarks cannot be isolated (protons have three quarks, and you will create one addistional quark, so you will create two mesons which have two quarks total.)

3. The weak force is mediated by the W (plus and minus, which are antiparticles of each other) and the Z particle (which is neutral and its own antiparticle.) They are responsible for radioactive decay of particles. You can determine the particle that mediated the interaction via the conservation of mass, energy, and charge laws.

4. Electromagnetism is mediated by virtual photons. Although I cannot explain it in one minute (the remaining time I have before I must leave), I suggest that you look it up yourself. It is very strong (enough to defy Earth's gravity), but only workseffectively at short distances (think of a magnet and a paperclip.)
In depth: But wait: you must be thinking something...such as photons are paticles of light (if you didn't know that...well...now you do.) To be completely honest, both of those are correct. Ever hear that light is an electromagnetic wave? Electricity is also mediated by photons, but that is complicated to explain. Really, I can't explain this. I haven't done much research on electricity because it isn't interesting to me. However, if I do feel the need to research this, I'll be sure to post it here.

I'll answer your questions/ respond to your unfounded criticism/ enjoy your support over the weekend :)
03-17-2011, 10:05 PM
Rodri

I thought you might be talking about the four elemental forces that are vital to all life.
My mistake.
03-17-2011, 10:16 PM
Bree Fletcher

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Originally Posted by Oss Spy

4. Electromagnetism... only works at short distances (think of a magnet and a paperclip.)

There isn't actually a limit to the distance at which the electromagnetic force acts. :/
03-17-2011, 10:19 PM
Revoltion

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Originally Posted by Oss Spy

3. The weak force is mediated by the W

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lh...nukno1_500.jpg

Incidentally, he did beat Abe Lincoln.
03-18-2011, 11:08 PM
Oss Spy

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Originally Posted by Bree Fletcher

There isn't actually a limit to the distance at which the electromagnetic force acts. :/

Fixed to effective. Thanks for mentioning :)

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Originally Posted by Revoltion

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lh...nukno1_500.jpg

Incidentally, he did beat Abe Lincoln.

Through the ambigious case of the law of cosines, right?
03-18-2011, 11:14 PM
Bree Fletcher

So... okay... I'm still wondering why there exists a thread that basically explains nothing, and what little it does say can easily be picked up in a few days of an average American underfunded high school physics class.
03-18-2011, 11:15 PM
Revoltion

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Originally Posted by Oss Spy

Through the ambigious case of the law of cosines, right?

Actually through a high midi-chlorian count.
03-18-2011, 11:20 PM
Bree Fletcher

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Originally Posted by Revoltion

Actually through a high midi-chlorian count.

All this time and I thought it was spelled "metaklorian"...
03-18-2011, 11:21 PM
Oss Spy

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Originally Posted by Bree Fletcher

So... okay... I'm still wondering why there exists a thread that basically explains nothing, and what little it does say can easily be picked up in a few days of an average American underfunded high school physics class.

I'm still wondering why you try to patronize me. Really.

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Originally Posted by Revoltion

Actually through a high midi-chlorian count.

I call shenanigans!
03-18-2011, 11:27 PM
Bree Fletcher

Patronize nothing. I was simply pointing out the fact that there is currently no apparent purpose to this thread. As such, it has been cluttering up the OT from its conception, should be categorized as spam, and possibly removed.
03-19-2011, 12:00 AM
Cosmic Fury

^She's right. Although this MIGHT from a standpoint be argued as "educational," it is in fact ultimately rather useless knowledge when it comes to everyday life.
03-19-2011, 12:03 AM
Revoltion

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Originally Posted by Jurnis

^She's right. Although this MIGHT from a standpoint be argued as "educational," it is in fact ultimately rather useless knowledge when it comes to everyday life.

So is 99% of what you learn throughout your life.
03-19-2011, 05:04 PM
Eutopeus

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Originally Posted by Oss Spy

Ever hear that light is an electromagnetic wave? Electricity is also mediated by photons, but that is complicated to explain. Really, I can't explain this. I haven't done much research on electricity because it isn't interesting to me. However, if I do feel the need to research this, I'll be sure to post it here.

I'll answer your questions/ respond to your unfounded criticism/ enjoy your support over the weekend :)

I have not followed through with research as intended but will some day.

If electricity is mediated by photons, then would or could it be possible to "record" this wave of energy onto a disk? Then utilize this wave to power devices big and small such as laptops and cell phones.

More disks could be stacked to form any amt. of required amperage or voltage,
controled by a PLC. Perhaps this is already done and I missed it by lack of exposure to such things.

I do believe that a disk type "battery" would be simple to charge and recycle as needed. I don't know about the ability to charge it with light waves but don't see why not. Music and data are recorded this way. Then retrieved as needed.

A material to record and store this light is not known by me but, certain metals come to mind and are quite expensive at this time and rare too.
The electricity to drive the disk would be in place and could utilize electromagnetism almost perpetually.

All for now,for the sun is shining! :) edit: after viewing my post, photovoltaic comes to mind. Just a nice way to store and retrieve it. no harm done,really!