hehe, that's the best you couId do...?
sorry.. I meant to Iog out and Ieave.. but had to check for repIies.. (I'm curious too, you know) ;)
trying a new twist then..
I wish evony aII the worst...?
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hehe, that's the best you couId do...?
sorry.. I meant to Iog out and Ieave.. but had to check for repIies.. (I'm curious too, you know) ;)
trying a new twist then..
I wish evony aII the worst...?
A suspended friend emailed me to see if i could find out. If they never log into a bot again, they will be fine? Secondly, since they were in holiday, are they loosing anything?
If they don't use a bot again, they won't get suspended again.
I can't really answer on the second question, I don't exactly know what happens with Administrative Holiday.
thank you, will relay it onto them.
That'd be nice if there was a rule, deffinitly bugs me that theres so many even in brand new servers, like 1 person makes 3 or 4 just like that and they sit there and sit there.
Without even reading this post...
Seriously? You multi-account, and admit to it in this thread. Consider yourself lucky you only got a 3 day suspension.
Nuff said.
No Ownership Rights in Account.
NOTWITHSTANDING ANYTHING TO THE CONTRARY HEREIN, YOU ACKNOWLEDGE AND AGREE THAT YOU SHALL HAVE NO OWNERSHIP OR OTHER PROPERTY INTEREST IN THE ACCOUNT, AND YOU FURTHER ACKNOWLEDGE AND AGREE THAT ALL RIGHTS IN AND TO THE ACCOUNT ARE AND SHALL FOREVER BE OWNED BY AND INURE TO THE BENEFIT OF Regan Mercantile, LLC.
Which leads me to..
Account Suspension/Deletion.
Regan Mercantile, LLC MAY SUSPEND, TERMINATE, MODIFY, OR DELETE ACCOUNTS AT ANY TIME FOR ANY REASON OR FOR NO REASON, WITH OR WITHOUT NOTICE TO YOU. For purposes of explanation and not limitation, most account suspensions, terminations and/or deletions are the result of violations of this Terms of Use or the EULA.
(Copied from Evony ToS)
You agreed to these terms of service when you created your account. Your request to paypal for a refund will be denied.
okey... I have read some here... and other places...
short story:
I have been sick due to pains in my back, had bad nigths, sleept less ( maybe an hour now n then... sometimes a few hours..) since i have had pains, I hadnt been able to do mutch. Therefore i have been online ALOT.
now, the only thing i have used have been the evony tool bar.
the mailes i got when i complained sujescted that i have used third part software, bots cheats.. ++ when the only thing i have used is the evony tool bar.
so, fore me to be banned, that means, the tool bar is then to blame fore it.
Or that I was suspended fore beeing online to mutch.
Since evony it self is the promorter fore those tool bars, that makes you just as guilty as me. Hope you take any actions aganst them too.
If that wasnt the case, then the fact that I was eager to log on while I have had 3 bad weeks, to fix my new server, and get to an desent lvl ,is to blame.
But nothing really justify the suspension to me. :( as things at the new server is now moved on, and i havent... also some of the bigger enemys in my state have moved up on my npc fields and that means two of them next to my town, to make the area theirs, and clean me when i return... and they are bougth way bigger then me.
Means, my game is now probally done, if I ever get to return.
I have played this game long time, always keept thinking, someway things will work out when ther have been minor and loveable bugs, or reset os servers fore an few days.
I do not not play unfair, nor wish to, as i have been proud to build the things my self, and prefear the time when the money wasnt an big factor in the game.
this server I did spend alill bit, and wanted it to be the best new start in an new server..
I wish the third complain I mailed in, and got reply on would spesify what i really did wrong. and not repet the game rules to me.. cuz then i would have something to mail back,I cant stand up fore my self, when the mails i get in return is repets of game ruels, and no concreate issue with me that lead to suspension.
so... help spot tickets? hmm... I had some,got back game ruels.. Not sure what i can do anymore.
I read through every post in this thread... kind of shocked it's been allowed to go on this long, on the plus side Dave and Thantium have both responded in some sort in this thread... =)
Botting, multi-accounting, and account sharing are all against the rules. I guarantee you that everyone in this thread at least knows one person who does each of those rule breaking.
Thing is what do we do about it? We as the players have no real ability to stop it, just more or less see it unfold. Hopefully, the evony team finds a way to stop it entirely --- i kind of like that suggestion about changing some codes so that the bots are no longer functional in the evony servers... to me it has potential.
Last comment, and this has to do with paypal. The last time i bought cents (during that St. Patricks Day deal) it took over an hour for my actual cents and box to arrive. Now say if it never arrived (i will likely be spending more and so it could be a possibility in the future) and I submitted a ticket and got no real help and then submitted another ticket about 5 days later with the same results. Would i be able to go to paypal about it to get my money back or would that still be a breach of ToS? I'm only asking because the last time I did a ticket thing I ended up getting it solved two months later here on the forums.
This is mostly for theoretical purposes but also for other people who have potentially had Chest/cents issues - if the submitted multiple tickets with no help how would they go about getting there money either to there account or refunded to them without breaking ToS?
You're fishing right there. I've reviewed the purchase process and the rules, we provide exactly what is purchased, and the cents can be used at any time.
To claim fraud over ??? is grabbing for attention.
Listen, I don't want to close this thread, so if you have an issue regarding your belief of fraud, you can contact customer service, and they'll send any questions on to our legal department.
There is something you can do, not bot yourself, report all bots offered to me via pm, and make use of the reporting feature in Helpspot.
This falls under Thantium's purview, and he can more accurately answer the question.Quote:
Last comment, and this has to do with paypal. The last time i bought cents (during that St. Patricks Day deal) it took over an hour for my actual cents and box to arrive. Now say if it never arrived (i will likely be spending more and so it could be a possibility in the future) and I submitted a ticket and got no real help and then submitted another ticket about 5 days later with the same results. Would i be able to go to paypal about it to get my money back or would that still be a breach of ToS? I'm only asking because the last time I did a ticket thing I ended up getting it solved two months later here on the forums.
This is mostly for theoretical purposes but also for other people who have potentially had Chest/cents issues - if the submitted multiple tickets with no help how would they go about getting there money either to there account or refunded to them without breaking ToS?
Dave, he posted in previous threads that he has put in tickets, messaged Dawnseeker, etc. and gotten nothing fixed or done. His main hero went poof and that's pretty distressing for anyone that's worked hard.
sorry all im not gonna discuss this any further in the forums as Dave is far more reliable and is the ONLY person who answered me back so i will no longer bring it up what ever happens happens and ty all for support i do love this game alot but i will not start over and ty all for the great advice everyone has given me
and i have spent alot figure 30 usd upto 100 usd per week some times more for 18 months yes i know its a FREE game but i have no life so evony was my way having friends and i enjoyed spending the money and would like to continue but finding it very hard at this point
You only did it two days ago?! :duh:
A) Give customer support some time to get back to you, I think Dawnseeker put on here that you shouldn't mail him until it's been about 5 days.
B) Think about it, customer service gets plenty of tickets daily, it may take a couple of days for a response. Be a little reasonable.
I waited a whole month to bring my issue to the help section of the forums at all - and that was with 3 tickets spaced out.
Then I waited a whole month on top of that after getting no reply from Dawnseeker and submitting another ticket to the CS in which it was essentially ignored. Then when I brought it to the forums with the proof of the waiting and the tickets (screen shots of them) I did get helped.
Overall, I'm just saying have a little patience and don't bring everything to the forums after only a few days of waiting. People will just think your impatient that way.
Steps off :soapbox:
I think i know why he cannot wait, it might be, because he is very competative. I won't comment on the issue if he did or not cheated it is a very sensative issue and it is none of my business, but I do feel for players who are competative. Each day they lose is a few level of extra catching up with their hero levels. In addition to that, they may lose some or all of their valleys and may already be at a lower level.
Another real reason is that they may return to a weaken city that may already have a well prepared player waiting to hit, while this is unlikely, it does cause anxiety.
I hope their issue do get resolve, soon.
Good luck to you all, and hope you all return to a safe city just as it were before the sweep, if evony gods permit.
Yeah i know alot of people in this game who are competitive. Doesn't mean the system can work any faster. Derek if it's been longer then 3 days - how long did the e-mail say it was going to take, I'm assuming they gave you a time frame. However just saying you are no longer going to be a paying customer isn't going to get you anywhere, btw i just noticed you slightly hi-jacked this thread as the OP wasn't started by you but as it's about suspension I guess it does fall into the same parameters.
As it is, with customer service it has now only been three days and I'm sure they've sent something to you even if it is just an automated response. If you don't get a response from a human send another ticket, make sure it's polite and refer to your previous ticket number and keep trying...
I guarantee it. :knight:
Server merges are prompted by inactivity. Any MMO that runs perpetually, will inevitably slowly swindle in the number of active players. No game is immune. New games come out, people get bored, people lose their PW and just stop logging on, there are countless reasons for player loss. Advertising and other influences may spike the population upward, but the downward trend of the number of active players is a simple inevitability. Eventually every server will cross those mysterious threshold values to prompt a merge. The only reason Evony Age 1 merging will stop is when the Evony company abandons the game.
I was PM'd a copy/paste of an in-game mail someone received. Their alliance is instructing everyone to get bots. At least for defense while offline, and they linked many other sites for resource bots and hero bots and farming bots and attacking bots and whatever other bots are out there. Since you have made it clear that suspensions are the only slap on the wrist they will receive, they are now openly advocating botting. They are, in fact, REQUIRING bot usage in some top alliances.
Cheaters will cheat because they can get away with it.
You said you wanted to remove the reasons for botting, rather than removing the player. That won't work. There will always be something else for them to cheat at. You could remove upkeep, the ability to capture heros, the ability to capture cities, and the many other game mechanics that bots help players avoid. There will always be something outside of the rules, that could gain players an advantage. They will simply create new bots to gain the new advantages in a new system.
You can let them bot because they pay the bills, I honestly understand that. From a business perspective, that is a reasonable stance to take. If that's the stance you are going to take then own it and shout it from the mountaintops.
[sarcasm] Let's add a "game-subversion" section to the forums. Let's tell people where to get bots, and how to use them. Why is resource bot A, better than resource bot B? Why are market bots incredibly foolish to use? What is the best farming bot? Let's end the farce of these 3-day vacations for punishment. Let's get the community together to endorse 3rd party software that aids gameplay. [/endsarcasm]
... or you can declare this game a fair-play zone, and go after the botter/multi/account sharers.
I agree on this point(those quoted),but in addition i think evony shouldnt use the word "Holiday" on a suspended or banned player. Holiday sounds too good & being ban or suspended is a Punishment,not a holiday when players are enjoying.
I have to pay evony real money for a holiday in evony becos of the lag evony made.i didnt chose bot.But those who chose bots instead gets FREE holiday. Do u think thats fair? If i were to bot one day,i dare say it is Evony FORCING me into it,not on my own willingness.And i am battling now as we speak,to bot or not to...
I really hope evony will take this seriously.Get a bot-jail(most online games do that for botters),where evony puts these botters in jail & have to pay an amount of fine to get out in 3 days time.And those in bot jail,or suspended/banned players shldnt appear as Holiday.It shld be Suspension/or a better word,investigation.Or even ban..
Thoughts?
I dont think permanent ban is good solution for first time offence - I think the person should get a second chance. For repetition? ok, punishment should be more severe. But not the first time. And it is not like holiday. You can take holidayed account out after the 24hours, they cannot. They have to wait. And trust me, for some loosing half of everything means loosing really lot. Even milions of troops total (if they have several cities), half walls and half resources (which can be billions). I even saw people quiting after they got out. It is relatively severe punishment. And I think as first time offence it should be enough.
In case you guys don't know, the "holiday" that botters get removes 50% of their resources, troops, and wall defense in every city... every time they're put in holiday. It also lasts 7 days now not 3. So sure, you have to pay for your holiday, but you can end it after a day, don't lose your stuff, and aren't forced to go get a life for a week.
I'm not saying botters don't deserve it, if it were up to me they'd be banned not suspended, just saying it's not the fun & light punishment it appears to be.
from a repeat offender that i knew
first time he got suspended for 3 days - troops, walls, resources halved
second time he got suspended for 7 days - troops, walls, resources halved
third time he got perma banned.
Hehe, there's a botter about 20 miles from me that's still not banned. He's on his 4th or 5th 7 day suspension now... I've lost track. Unfortunately the botter with 2 cities about 6 miles from me and the other botter with 5 cities within 10 miles of me are both alive and well. Never been holidayed, never not hit my npcs 24/7 :duh:
Ailuros is right, this "holiday" costs a lot... 1/2 of resources, troops, etc. It will hurt someone, that's for sure.
So Rota, I'm going to throw down the gauntlet.
Don't like how it is? Help me help you. PM me information on every bot and flat filling program you come across. I'll pass them on to our engineers and make sure we're suspending people who use them.
I'll also talk to them to see if it's pratical to make another exclusion sweep - and heavily scrutinize top 100 alliances as well as accounts based on quant. of times suspended. Or maybe even develop a botter bounty system. (Just some ideas off the top of my head. Standard disclaimer of guarantee applies.)
alliance on 151 requires their members to use a bot in order to get in alliances have already split up over their players cheeting. Bots in the hand of a really active player makes a person extremely hard to beat, people have bots that send out all their farm teams to npcs when they sign on can evony detect this bot? I was offered it and didnt take it and i'm a lazy farmer at best but i refuse to cheet. I have seen 3-4 sweeps go by since the player offered me this program and this person has not been banned.I'm not going to snitch because every player is beatable you can kill all their troops but i don't appreciate people just logging in and having all their npcs farmed when i spend countless hours clicking away:mad:
And honestly the 3 day ban means nothing to the player, had a host, vice host and nearly all our presbyters banned in our alliance once my host said and i quote "Evony has slapped me on the wrist but i will be back in a few days i will have to be a good boy for a couple weeks"These players should have their main heros taken away or something because u can take resources archers and towers away from people but it honestly means nothing when u have a 700 poli hero rebuilding ur walls in a day and people from ur alliance sending you the resources you lost.Said player got banned for botting again 2 weeks later was gone for a week came back and started botting from an alt account this player has clearly not learned his lesson why should he be allowed to continue playing after cheeting 2 times.