Does that include the outrageous credit card bills for many?
Just saying.....
Where does the fair play start or the level playing field begin?
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Getting banned in the forums does NOT ban you from playing the game. Trust me, I've got plenty of timeouts under my belt here. lol. And try some punctuation, commas, periods, etc., then maybe your posts will make sense. Maybe. lol
Honestly, having botters around helps feed my army :)
No botters around = more farming for me :(
We're talking about botters, not coiners. But, on that subject, EVERY person has the opportunity to pull out their credit card, debit card or whatever form of payment they want to use, and buy coins. Nobody is at a disadvantage unless they are simply too much of a tightwad to do so. Yes, some can't afford to buy coins, myself (at this time) included, but I can say, with no hesitation, that I am by NO means at a disadvantage because of it. There are MANY ways to excel at this game without spending a dime, IF you take the time, think, and learn how to do so. I am "semi-retired", been at this longer then most anybody, since day one practically on server one back in beta/Civony days, so I basically hang out, farm my 10's, work my heroes and such, and keep a modest 300k archers and enough meat troops to keep most of the dogs at bay. BUT, if need be or I desired to do so, I would have NO problems producing and supporting mass troops, even with my one humble city. If you can't play this game effectively, for free, then you need to go back to school and figure out how. Coiners make this game possible, and I have bought more then my fair share in the past, several thousand dollars worth, and anybody from server one can attest to that, but I've also learned how to survive now that my budget doesn't allow buying them.
this could help them get money if you think about it...the b0tters who will no longer be able to hold the troops because they have to manually farm MAY (im not saying they will) purchase items to help them feed their troops. for example, 40 farms, make them all lvl 10 then you want a large poli hero to help with production as well.
The issue I'm arguing has nothing to do with botting. I take great pride in the time on 144 when I timed about 14 attacks on one guy's city, all within 2-3 seconds of each other. Our alliance had a spy in thiers and he posted their AC: one guy said that I must be botting because nobody can click that fast, and another said "don't you know you can use camp time to get attacks to land together?" I did this with my only account, one that I built without bots, without feeders. My old account on 132 (Agapemike, about 13-14 months ago) got to the top 100 all by the click of my mouse...no bot, no exploits, all my builds, all my heroes, no feeders, no resources from botters, no cities handed to me. Please don't insinuate that I am a botter using this issue as an excuse to protect my cheating. I haven't insulted you or your ideas, so please don't insult me or mine.
I acknowledge the fact that *you* find 1 in 600 acceptable, even 1 in 25, but please don't pass judgment when I don't find it acceptable when it can all be avoided. Is that pic to the right of your signature meant in jest, or do you really behave that way?
This captcha popping up in-game is a change that I did not sign up for. I was aware of botters, as a non-botter, when I started server 144 after learning the game on 132...I knew what I was signing up for, that they came with the game. This interruption to the game is simply not acceptable to me. I have not posted complaints about server interruptions for bot sweeps. I have not posted to complain about lag. I don't complain when a city of mine is wiped and I don't automatically assume the player who did it is a stinkin' botter, because I've built armies by hand capable of doing the damage botters can do, too. I am, however opposed to any interruption of game play that can be reasonably avoided.
Ok, you are opposed to any interruption of game play that can be reasonably avoided. Fair enough. I am NOT opposed to any interruption of game play that can reasonably level the playing field, speed up the servers, and make this game more fair, exciting, and fun again, as it once was. I am a non-botter also, think botters are scum, and I too have "adjusted" to playing with botters, but I will say, it will be a breath of fresh air to have them eliminated, and I'll take any interruptions that may come our way with open arms if they succeed in this task. It'd be nice to be back in the good old days, instead of just reminiscing about them.
Oh, and my signiture pic is a statement towards evony mods, made a long time ago, for over-disciplining people when they spoke their minds. It is not how I feel, it is my interpretation of how I felt they acted.
The simple fact that Evony has to even go to these measures and incorporate new programming to eliminate cheaters in itself is sad. Don't be mad at Evony for trying to do what's right. Be mad at the lazy slacker idiots that are the cause of the problem, the botters, for putting Evony in this position in the first place. Evony shouldn't have to go to these lengths to ensure the rules of the game, which do NOT allow bots, are followed. But, due to the fact that there are immoral people, with no virtue, honor, or values, everybody has to suffer. Be mad at them, take out your frustration on the botters, not Evony.
I still see people talkin about fairness and equality by removing botters but the truth is the botters arent the ones who have 100k plus prest on day one of a new server or 2 million a month in who random tele all over destroying what us poor folk have spent hrs waiting on only to have to do it again. I dont bot but i do spend many hrs every day sitting here watching my timers slowly count down waiting for my chance to go to war with someone. How is it fair that my countless hrs of work can be wiped away in less than a min by someone with a credit card who can buy their way to the top. Im no noob and i know how to build a city and an army but no matter how good a player a person is they will never be able to beat visa simply because they arent given a chance.
I have 10 inactive cities within 10 miles of me taking up flats that i cant build npcs on to farm and they are not bot accounts and didnt leave a month old server due to bots. They left because some coiner 10 times their size landed in our area and cleaned everyone out.
How many of you btchin about bots are coiners who are just upset that you cant cap a city from a bot but have no problem taking one from someone 1/4 your size whos just tryin to play a free game to have some fun cuz they cant afford to go out and do anything else.
Im not against coiners or botters so say what you will about my post but dont squawk about fairness and equality when there will never be either in evony unless theres a non coiner server opened for those of us who cant afford to coin or some kind of limitation placed to keep the big guys from destroying the little guys.