lol i dont really care but its a valid point and it is a valid point that i first posted
but i really think its funny
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lol i dont really care but its a valid point and it is a valid point that i first posted
but i really think its funny
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Some people that reciprocate the idea i had in mind why i posted my statement re: the sudden "dyslexia syndrome" a lot of Evony players are now suddenly having:
@Acer and Lazz: I would have thought you two to know me and understand far deeper than what i posted showed at skin's deep :(
Yes, i know what dyslexia is, and yes, i understand its complexities, etc etc.
My question to the both of you is, as BadBlood has stated quite eloquently above, how can you play Evony in the first place if you are a dyslexic who can't enter the captcha? Since the game entails the need to comprehend quite different colors, letters, shapes, lines, numbers, all mixed with one another, on the map, in alliance chat, and in all the various dialog boxes?
That, my friends, is what my subtle, tongue-in-cheek, three liner was supposed to communicate and hint at.
:D
The Captcha is very difficult to read, and yes I have perfect vision. I am unsure how people who have vision problems are going to be able to read them. Not only do you have captcha that is difficult to read but you turn the letters as well which makes it more difficult. Some people have disabilities which will make it difficult for them to play the game, whether it be vision problems, dyslexia or just difficulty understanding what is written in front of them. I think the Captcha system needs to be revised, changed or omitted. Maybe there is something that everyone will be able to complete in order to continue enjoying the game.
You Sir are completely ignorant, they manage to see the things you mention because they are able to enlarge their screen but they cannot do that with the captcha, we have a guy in our alliance who is Dyslexic and is having great problems with the captcha to the point he has had to holiday and hope they do something to change things.
On another note, since the captcha has been introduced a lot of people cant log in, my guess is the data capacity is being taken up by the captcha this is a total mess :( people are quitting because of it.
I completely agree woth ruudong1 and will also post his comment.
I highly recommend everyone download the following form:
http://www.ada.gov/t2cmpfrm.htm
fill it out, and mail it to the indicated address.
As implemented, the evony captcha violates the American with Disabilities Act, because it does not offer an audio alternative to the visual captcha. This discriminates against people with visual disabilities. Examples of ADA-compliant captchas include those such as Google's, where an audio alternative is available for the visually impaired to listen to.
You can use evonys LLC address in Delaware for the organization name.
Actually no I was not reciprocating the idea you were talking about... I was saying these cases of dyslexia are just now coming to light because... why on earth would people state on the forums they have dyslexia...
and to your point as to how they are able to play the game... there is a difference in when people see real words as apposed to random letters, it confuses the brain in a dyslexic.
Anyone notice that by far the majority of the people opposed have less then 20 posts... and the people for it have hundreds....
just saying, it is an interesting data set.
Because most players don't bother with the forums until they really dislike something and feel the need to speak out about it. I know many in my alliance and previous alliances that had no clue what on earth the forums were... and the other half just lurk and never post.
Badblood, I consider us to be at an understanding on our previous discussion--we agree to disagree, so this isn't me hounding you. I did, however, answer a post similar to yours a number of pages back, and here's an excerpt:
"Why does captcha rotate, break lines in, fuzz out characters? Is it so they are not in line in a way that is easy to decode for a computer? Do the many posts of people *not* claiming to have dyslexia or visual impairments, but who also find captcha frustrating to decipher, not add to the premise that captcha can be very difficult to read?
If we can agree that captcha is at least somewhat harder to read than in-line, unaltered text, would it not then be fair to say that a person who might have some degree of difficulty with game chat or finding enemy cities would have more trouble when the text is not what the brain has been trained to decipher?
So, respectfully, this is a legitimate concern if it makes gameplay less accessible to those with dyslexia and/or visual impairments..."
What I took out b4 and after was bassically to say that someone that is barely able to play for the reasons you have questioned (can barely see the numbers for troop counts, etc., but can still just barely see them) might be incapable of reading captcha, which I have found to be very difficult to decipher myself (another reason for me to object to this game intrusion).
I agree, like you said, that this game isn't a necessity and might not be legally covered under ADA, but as someone who does fall under some ADA protection for other reasons, I do believe in the premise that even though evony might not be required to make efforts to serve a broader base of the population, it would be very good for them to attempt to do so. For me, it falls along similar lines to the honor/integrity ideals you have held up with respect to gameplay. Adding a non-game hurdle in the game that might exclude some from playing is not an honorable concept. "Sorry buddy, you can't play now because we want to make the game better for others." You are concerned about fairness in the game w/r/t botters, so why not w/r/t people who can barely get by seeing the game as it is? An ADA-complient captcha would possible serve both purposes (though I still object to the game intrusion).
I'm glad people like you are passionate about the game, but I'd hope you can learn that discussion is better had when phrases like "sounds like complete and utter BS" could be phrased more like "Though a legitimate issue for some, for the reasons I have stated I find it more likely that people use the possibility of reading issues caused by dyslexia or poor vision as an excuse to argue against this latest effort by evony to curb botting." That way you don't come off like you are calling people liars with no evidence to back up such an accusation other than your opinion, or that you don't care about others and as long as a change doesn't affect you negatively. I don't object to your opinion, but if you dismiss the opinions of others based solely on your feelings that they are BS, you open the door for others to do the same to you. Not very productive.
Btw, though I do not believe it plays a part in my difficluty with captcha, I do have an actual written diagnosis that includes some form of dyslexia, which is possibly why I see this as a legitimate issue.