Japanpimp Battle Reports

Well with the life bonus on a 15 set being 3.2x base life, that could have a 14 having 2.75x base life? Not much of an increase, but in the one test I did have of a 14 set, that fit the life bonus well.

I'm not sure about the leadership bonus just yet, I'm still tweaking around and need to some testing for myself so I can confirm the numbers myself.

Oro, the bonus is calculated on base life, before research is applied.

JP, thank you for the info, this means that you have both corsolet and war horn active right? I'll try to work out why the reports were different later today for you. Or maybe a couple of us here can :)

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Originally Posted by Nibus

It's worth noting how birtles wrote it should anyone want to edit his spreadsheet

(LD*10+bonus)LD

00-04......0%....(LD*10+100)*LD
05-08.....40%....(LD*10+150)*LD
09-11....100%....(LD*10+200)*LD
12-13....150%....(LD*10+250)*LD
14....??
15-15....200%....(LD*10+300)*LD

which going by the bold number, doesn't leave much room for a 14 star bonus, maybe it's 12-14 stars at 150%, no separate bonus for 14 stars? does anyone have concrete data for a 14 star set?

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By the looks of the chart 12-14 should be +250 since batches of 3 are common. But could be wrong, I hope this formula does not apply for HH as well because a 15 star set hh with 250 leadership can lead 700k troops effectively according to that formula.

i wish i knew how to play age2 lol

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Originally Posted by japanpimp

I agree in that some of the basic mechanics from Age 1 battling are tried and proven thus carried over into Age 2... and those have not changed much. No argument there.
My main thing is to work out all these curves that are specific to Age 2. The battle mechanics are heavily influenced by the Workshop gear, stars, HH and non-HH differences. In fact the mechanics are influenced so much by that that a player with a level 100 hero with 4 stars on every gear will lose very badly to a player with a HH with 15 stars on every gear. And they could beat them down with basically just warriors. Now, if you guys want to call that "life bonus" and "attack bonus" and whatever.... fine. Bottom line is it changes the battle in a extremely big way. And I have a feeling this is not linear. It works on a curve. Again, if 12 gears at 15 stars and 1 gear at 1 star I do not believe that player has a "One star" set.

@Oro: Ok, I will post more reports with more flat troop counts so the calculations will be easier. You guys can pick it apart when I do.

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When you consider new battle mechanics theories you have to wonder, would a sane programmer bother with it? The guys who made these laws are people too and they tried to keep it as simple as possible. They could have made it that atk bonus for heroes is slightly different on every different location on the map, or that researches don't give +50% range bonus but actually 51.5% and therefore throwing us off (rarely). But the thing is they didn't. That's why I believe that there is nothing that makes formulas different from Valley warfare and PvP warfare other than the different elements that are present in PvP. I could be wrong but my logic tells me I am not, most of the laws we have today were figured out on valleys and have held for PvP for years.

Just asked someone to do a quick test with 14 stars (thanks to GreatDavid - Claymore) but he logged before I could confirm if he had facebook life buffs.
Anyway the test showed 280% life, will try to catch him online to verify the buff issue and to hopefully test the leadership bonus.

http://battlena21.evony.com/default....82c90e7523.xml

75 int

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Originally Posted by Nibus

Just asked someone to do a quick test with 14 stars (thanks to GreatDavid - Claymore) but he logged before I could confirm if he had facebook life buffs.
Anyway the test showed 280% life, will try to catch him online to verify the buff issue and to hopefully test the leadership bonus.

http://battlena21.evony.com/default....82c90e7523.xml

75 int

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Originally Posted by Oro

What would you like us to calc?

And un3x the buxom may not affect the "fast moves first" law. Maybe a test like a friend puts 1 pault 10000 archers in a valley and then you send 1k cav and nothing else at it. With a couple or max buxom wenches, if buxom works then archers should be killed, if not then well we are done here.
Oh and thx for the star set leadership bonus relation, I did not know that.
Also I get confused by the order of bonuses a lot, does the 3.2x bonus come into effect on the base life of the unit or the life after research bonuses have been applied? I messed up on my previous JP calc, applyed attack researches onto the hero changed life instead of directly to base. Ah well too many variables and not enough cause to be perfect.

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indeed, but i cant find a way to test though. i m thinking for like 5 hours lol

well, few hours until expire my 1 buxom, and really dont want another one !!!!! messed up all my spreadheet to make corrections for workers warriors and scouts at 5 stars. there added only 1% for unmodified base life. need test for mechs too but how fast move after that 1 bx better i do sometngh else like farming or so.

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Originally Posted by un3x

indeed, but i cant find a way to test though. i m thinking for like 5 hours lol

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The 1 pault 10000 archers vs 1000 cav in a valley should work right?
The cav shouldn't reach the archers and kill nothing with their normal speed but if they move a bit faster with a couple buxom they will hit them.

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wasn't my report to delete, thought he was offline.

100k scouts v level 10 valley, 7766 warriors, 2631 pike, 1754 archers

hero has 75 intel, losses = 3823 scouts.

how many rounds did the battle last?

Any buffs that he had on at the time? War Horn, Corselet, or Uprise buff?