I find it kind of interesting that so many alliances want to shoot for Friesland as soon as the server starts (i'm not going to claim to have been around forever) but i have yet to see an alliance who started out in freisland actually get atlantis. if there has been then educate me, but i would also like to discuss the ratio of non friesland starters to friesland starters ( if any) for claiming atlantis. Personally i think invading friesland from another bordering state works best (just my opinion) so hope we can discuss this without getting too flamed up about the past

