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I wouldn't say it's astronomy based. I'd say it's faith based like religious armageddons. Astronomical evidence tends to oppose rather than support the 2012 theory, unless people simply assume scientists and the government are lying and out to get them. But even then it seems questionable to trust people that have no credibility in the field over those that do. Either way, in my opinion the belief of armageddon falls to faith rather than evidence, unless you want to consider easily disproven pseudo-facts as evidence.

A very educated person should be educated enough to do their own research on it instead of believing Mr. Hobo with a Boot for a Hat because he's good at pretending like he knows what he's talking about.

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Originally Posted by Alusair

I wouldn't say it's astronomy based. I'd say it's faith based like religious armageddons. Astronomical evidence tends to oppose rather than support the 2012 theory, unless people simply assume scientists and the government are lying and out to get them. But even then it seems questionable to trust people that have no credibility in the field over those that do. Either way, in my opinion the belief of armageddon falls to faith rather than evidence, unless you want to consider easily disproven pseudo-facts as evidence.

A very educated person should be educated enough to do their own research on it instead of believing Mr. Hobo with a Boot for a Hat because he's good at pretending like he knows what he's talking about.

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Nature is constant, our understanding of nature is variable ... What does this mean? All that we know could be absolutely wrong, and everything that the Mayans (sp)? knew could have been correct as we aren't 100% sure that we are correct with all of our theories.

What if the, i think its called, 'floating minds theroy' is correct, in that we are all a bunch of blobs of energy floating around imagining everything around us. This 'theroy' was proven using other 'theroies' yet if it itself is correct then it is untrue as it itself cannot occur under its own rules if it is indeed correct.

As for the boot for a hat?

http://www.wired.com/news/images/ful...er_award_f.jpg

Yes that is a bust of Jimmy Wales :rofl:

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Originally Posted by Lucas101

everything that the Mayans (sp)? knew could have been correct as we aren't 100% sure that we are correct with all of our theories.

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The Mayans never predicted the end of the world; we put the end of the world theory in their mouths ourselves. It was just the end of their long-year cycle, like December 31st is the end of our yearly cycle. They chose to not start the next long-year cycle for the same reason that we don't currently produce Gregorian calendars for 7136- it's far enough ahead in the future that there's no immediate need for it.

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Originally Posted by Alusair

I wouldn't say it's astronomy based. I'd say it's faith based like religious armageddons. Astronomical evidence tends to oppose rather than support the 2012 theory, unless people simply assume scientists and the government are lying and out to get them. But even then it seems questionable to trust people that have no credibility in the field over those that do. Either way, in my opinion the belief of armageddon falls to faith rather than evidence, unless you want to consider easily disproven pseudo-facts as evidence.

A very educated person should be educated enough to do their own research on it instead of believing Mr. Hobo with a Boot for a Hat because he's good at pretending like he knows what he's talking about.

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I used astronomy base, because the physical evidence is astronomy, which can be molded to fit into their religious, or conspiracy theory. The physical evidence, although miss understood by many or were mislead, it is difficult to ignore even for the none religion.
Religious base in the other hand, is mostly belief that certain event will happen without a present of evidence or uses a series of unfortunate events and pass it on as a prelude to a more horrific event.



I have witness educated people in the medical field and many others preparing for such event. I have heard of few millionaire buying into the hypes, due to fears of the possibility, despite their education level.
Some of these people also have some astrolnomy background.
It is not the astronomy background that converted this people, it is the trust they have or none at all with their government.
It is also the fear for their children and family that messes with their logic, we also call this anxiety in the medical field.
Come to think of it, it might be the ANXIETY that is the main driving force for a lot of the fears escalation around the world.

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Originally Posted by Alusair

The Mayans never predicted the end of the world; we put the end of the world theory in their mouths ourselves. It was just the end of their long-year cycle, like December 31st is the end of our yearly cycle. They chose to not start the next long-year cycle for the same reason that we don't currently produce Gregorian calendars for 7136- it's far enough ahead in the future that there's no immediate need for it.

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Again how can we be sure of this? Just because we are lazy doesnt mean they were ... :pirate:

Actually it seems I made a mistake; Mayans have measured time beyond 12/21/12, that date is just the end of the current b'ak'tun.

But people will believe what they want to believe. Though if people believe the end of the current b'ak'tun will also be the end of the world predicted by Mesoamericans, they should then believe the Mesoamerican's world creation/destruction mythology. After all, it's a little silly to say that the Mesoamericans have the credibility to determine the date of the end of the world, but dismiss their prediction of how and why the world will end. Wouldn't they know better than us?

I'm not as familiar with the Mayan belief of the Five Worlds, but as far as I know, it's similar to the Aztec belief of the Six Worlds. As far as that one goes, the best way to keep the end of the fifth world as we know it from happening is blood sacrifices to Huitzilopochtli. Which means trying to survive this armageddon actually increases its likelihood of happening. Given how we haven't been doing any blood sacrifices for about 500 years to Huitzilopochtli, though (thanks, Spanish conquistadors), we better start stepping up pronto if we want to meet the quota for next year. If we fail, the world will be destroyed by earthquakes and we'll be devoured by the Tzitzimimeh who will descend upon us from the stars when the sun ceases to rise in the sky. Though this is more likely to happen during the nemontemi rather than on December 21st.

Me i am going to do nothing


This will not happen and WHEN it doesnt i will post a flag I'm not dead

Why Do People Still Believe in "The end of the world" It Would be more likely for the world to end tomorrow than on a exact day that some human said it would :dizzy: No One can say for SURE when the world is going to end .

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Originally Posted by DWorth

Why Do People Still Believe in "The end of the world" It Would be more likely for the world to end tomorrow than on a exact day that some human said it would :dizzy: No One can say for SURE when the world is going to end .

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Repping that




Except for god pr zeus or whateva you belive in...........

I'm a christian