Modern War: Who would win?

These wars have been fought before (except a couple)

but with modern technology and weapons, who would win now?


Germany VS France (France has the bigger army and the nuclear power due to Germany's army limits, Germany has the bigger economy and more capability to build nukes)

USA VS China (without nuclear bombs)

China VS Russia (nuclear bombs in)

USA VS Russia (no nuclear bombs)

South Korea VS North Korea

Spain VS Mexico

Japan VS South Korea

Israel VS Egypt

Britain VS India

Switzerland VS Belgium (if that happened)

Pakistan VS India

Turkey VS Iran

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Originally Posted by MrHyde

with modern technology and weapons, who would win now?

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nobody....

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Originally Posted by MrHyde

These wars have been fought before (except a couple)

but with modern technology and weapons, who would win now?


Germany VS France (France has the bigger army and the nuclear power due to Germany's army limits, Germany has the bigger economy and more capability to build nukes)

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Germany of course. France will just surrender after offering all their cheese and wine. Plus their mimes will just feign horror.

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USA VS China (without nuclear bombs)

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USA. We have Chuck Norris.

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China VS Russia (nuclear bombs in)

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Russia. They have bears and the Kremlin.

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USA VS Russia (no nuclear bombs)

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USA. We have Hollywood.

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South Korea VS North Korea

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North. Because they're already on top.

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Spain VS Mexico

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Mexico. They have superior running, jumping, climbing, and swimming skills.

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Japan VS South Korea

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Japan. They have ninjas

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Israel VS Egypt

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Israel in the end, but not before Egypt enslaves them and makes them build sand castles.

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Britain VS India

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India. Britons will be spending too much time making tea. Plus India has tigers and elephants.

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Switzerland VS Belgium (if that happened)

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Switzerland. They have all the banks and can fund a much cooler army.

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Pakistan VS India

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Pakistan. Ghandi is no match for terrorists.

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Turkey VS Iran

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Turkey. Thanksgiving is so much better than you running.

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Originally Posted by MrHyde

These wars have been fought before (except a couple)

but with modern technology and weapons, who would win now?


Germany VS France (France has the bigger army and the nuclear power due to Germany's army limits, Germany has the bigger economy and more capability to build nukes)Germany

USA VS China (without nuclear bombs) Toss Up

China VS Russia (nuclear bombs in) China

USA VS Russia (no nuclear bombs)Nuclear weapons would be used inevitably

South Korea VS North Korea Neither without outside help


Pakistan VS India Nuclear weapons would be used by Pakistan

Turkey VS IranThey don't have the capacity to wage war against each other

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responses in bold

RUSSIA > All

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Originally Posted by MrHyde

These wars have been fought before (except a couple)

but with modern technology and weapons, who would win now?


Germany VS France (France has the bigger army and the nuclear power due to Germany's army limits, Germany has the bigger economy and more capability to build nukes)

USA VS China (without nuclear bombs) - USA has an over blodded Military budget. USA would win just as long as they remember this old proverb. " Never fight a land battle in Asia."

China VS Russia (nuclear bombs in) - I see an 8 yrs war. Resulting in a stalemate.

USA VS Russia (no nuclear bombs) - USA

South Korea VS North Korea - You should have added, with or without the USA's help. With - S.Korea. Without - N.Korea.

Spain VS Mexico - Spain

Japan VS South Korea - Japan. Remember Mongolian History.

Israel VS Egypt - Israel. Remember the last time the Arab league tried?

Britain VS India - British

Switzerland VS Belgium (if that happened) - Belguim.

Pakistan VS India - Pakistan.

Turkey VS Iran - Hmmm, just because of there viciousness. Iran.

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My answers are in the box.

If a war happens now with nuclear wepons and such (also incluse biological warfare), then would would be destroyed.

nuclear bombs? they dont even play a factor anymore, with the advancements in the SDI technology most if not all nukes will be destroyed before they even get close to their target.

only one im really interested in is US vs China. China has a bigger military force and a higher population that is eligible for drafting, but the US is slightly ahead in military technology and has more allies/people that would side with us(if those are included)

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Originally Posted by MrHyde

These wars have been fought before (except a couple)

but with modern technology and weapons, who would win now?


Germany VS France (France has the bigger army and the nuclear power due to Germany's army limits, Germany has the bigger economy and more capability to build nukes)

I say Germany in a long war and France in a short war (Germany has capability to make nuclear stuff in long term but France has bigger army in shorter term)

USA VS China (without nuclear bombs)

USA if its neutral zone but China if fought on land.

China VS Russia (nuclear bombs in)

China beats Russia in a new 100 years war.

USA VS Russia (no nuclear bombs)

USA due to their more modern military

South Korea VS North Korea

South Korea, no help or with help. More modern, and better economy, and troops are more well fed.

Spain VS Mexico

Spain.

Japan VS South Korea

Sea battle will be Japan, but any other will be S.K. due to their larger army.

Israel VS Egypt

Israel

Britain VS India

Toss-Up, British is more modern, but India has more troops.

Switzerland VS Belgium (if that happened)

Fought in Switzerland, the Swiss would win due to the landscape.

Actually Swiss would win anywhere

Pakistan VS India

Nukes? Pakistan. No nukes? India.

Turkey VS Iran

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Turkey. Growing population and a bit more modern.

In all of the conflicts listed the winners would be the corporations that make the weapons and other supplies and the bankers who bankroll the wars and neither of those would care which side won because they clean up either way. The losers would be (and always have been) the ordinary people who either join up and go off to get killed or happen to be living in the place where "the powers that be" decide to stage their "theatre of operations".

In the end, it's always FUBAR.

^Rodri, yep on what you said, ... FUBAR, corporate victory, population FUBAR'd

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Originally Posted by MrHyde

Germany VS France

France, has access to the Atlantic, and though I hate to admit it, can kick some serious shizzoozles when motivated.

USA VS China (without nuclear bombs)

Walmart.

China VS Russia (nuclear bombs in)

Won't happen, reference Animal Farm.

USA VS Russia (no nuclear bombs)

Whomever has the home field advantage.

South Korea VS North Korea

South Korea, even without US support for SK and China's support for NK. the ROK is one mean force to reckon with, and has real world combat experience, where as NKA only really knows how to sit in a trench, and rape the emanciated populous. Of course when those fields are breached, the NKA will all rush down to the Micky D's in Seoul, and well .... finally get a happy meal, which will make them happy.

Spain VS Mexico

Mexico, just cuz after that bombing in the north, something died in Spain.

{side note: Japengo ... lols, that is sooooo wrong, its true yes!! but oh so wrong. :rofl:}

Japan VS South Korea

Protracted hostilities for decades, war of attrition, in the end peace talks, where both sides build floating trenches in the sea of Japan.

Israel VS Egypt

Israel, and the re-re-re-taking back Sinai, and give it to the Palestinians for a homeland.

Britain VS India

Britain, for they are better organized, and prepared for a long bloody combat. BUT the Brits build a most excellent eight lane highway system, then depart, leaving the Indians in better shape then they were previous to hostilities. o.O

Switzerland VS Belgium (if that happened)

Luxembourg.

Pakistan VS India

India.

Turkey VS Iran

The rest of modern civilization.

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Originally Posted by MrHyde

These wars have been fought before (except a couple)

but with modern technology and weapons, who would win now?


Germany VS France (France has the bigger army and the nuclear power due to Germany's army limits, Germany has the bigger economy and more capability to build nukes) Well, it depends... if Germans use Blitzkrieg they win. If it becomes a war of attrition, France will eventually win, on the assumption that someone will help them (eventually). If they use nukes, both sides lose.

USA VS China (without nuclear bombs) Hmm this is a tough one... Long as the Yankees remember not to fight a land war in Asia they'll probably win. I would say the same as KA, but theoretically speaking it could be air/sea with no land combat.

China VS Russia (nuclear bombs in) Eh, depends which side has better aim.

USA VS Russia (no nuclear bombs) USA, unless they make the classic blunder of waging a land war in Russia, in which case Russia wins unless the USA either a) starts in early spring and wins by winter, or b) trains their troops up in Alaska to ensure they're well-adapted.

South Korea VS North Korea North Korea. No, South Korea. Nope, I think it's a stalemate.

Spain VS Mexico Spain, unless the Yankees butt their nose in.

Japan VS South Korea Japan, the tiny aggressor.

Israel VS Egypt Israel, the little warrior that could.

Britain VS India Britain, but they're eventually talked into leaving by the leaders of a country-wide passive resistance movement.

Switzerland VS Belgium (if that happened) :rofl: Oh you make me laugh. Swiss vs Belgium? PLEASE. They would never. I mean really, what would they do, have a food fight? Swiss cheese vs. Belgian chocolate! :rofl: You're so funny.

Pakistan VS India If there are nukes involved, neither. If not, probably India, unless there's significant difference in tech.

Turkey VS Iran If Iran has (and uses) the nuclear technology they're said to, no one wins. Otherwise, whoever has home court advantage.

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All that said, of course, I must concur the truer winners are the banks and corporations who get business (and lots of) from all these wars, while the populations lose. Double so where nukes play in.

Germany VS France (France has the bigger army and the nuclear power due to Germany's army limits, Germany has the bigger economy and more capability to build nukes): France they have nuc and we will have exetremly good allies like Sa

USA VS China (without nuclear bombs): China ahs better ecomomy and a decent size and large army

China VS Russia (nuclear bombs in):
Russia has enough nuclear bombs to explode the world 10 times and have giantanto army

USA VS Russia (no nuclear bombs): Draw has both suckish ecomony

South Korea VS North Korea: North Korea THEY have nukes

Spain VS Mexico:
Not shure but everyone loves mexico so mexico

Japan VS South Korea: Japan has a gianto ecomony and has nukurlear army and not broke.

Israel VS Egypt:
Isreal they have USA as allies, and they have nukes.

Britain VS India:
India had a great ecomony and powerful army so India

Switzerland VS Belgium (if that happened):
DOnt know know nothing aabout them

Pakistan VS India: India Great ecomony and akistan has no nukes and suckish army
Turkey VS Iran:
Iran they have nukes and better army

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Originally Posted by kinggray22

nuclear bombs? they dont even play a factor anymore, with the advancements in the SDI technology most if not all nukes will be destroyed before they even get close to their target.

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Uh... Yeah. Please explain this some more. Tracking an ICBM is for all intents and purposes impossible - cruise missiles are another story. I'm not saying it can't be done and would be VERY happy to learn otherwise.

Any wars against countries with nuclear weapons would end in mutual destruction or a stalemate.

The one that really interests me is Switzerland vs. Belgium. I don't know that part of the world first-hand, but the one thing that really gets me is that there are 3x the amount of guns per citizen in Switzerland as Belgium. According to wikipedia, most males join the militia and are ISSUED an assault rifle. This is not a country you want to mess with... unless you have the ability to just bomb the sht out of them.

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Originally Posted by LadyMariana

All that said, of course, I must concur the truer winners are the banks and corporations who get business (and lots of) from all these wars, while the populations lose. Double so where nukes play in.

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in 1970-ish Black Sabbath basically agrees, cept before in a time warpey kindof thing

Black Sabbath ~ War Pigs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZCyOWLrRTE

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Generals gathered in their masses
Just like witches at black masses
Evil minds that plot destruction
Sorcerers of death's construction
In the fields the bodies burning
As the war machine keeps turning
Death and hatred to mankind
Poisoning their brainwashed minds
Oh lord yeah!

Politicians hide themselves away
They only started the war
Why should they go out to fight?
They leave that role to the poor

Time will tell on their power minds
Making war just for fun
Treating people just like pawns in chess
Wait 'til their judgment day comes
Yeah!

Now in darkness world stops turning
Ashes where the bodies burning
No more war pigs have the power
Hand of God has struck the hour
Day of judgment, God is calling
On their knees the war pig's crawling
Begging mercy for their sins
Satan laughing spreads his wings
Oh lord yeah!

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Oh, and great tactical thinking on your view of Russia vs US +1`rep when that darn button works again. =\

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Originally Posted by =Angel=

Spain VS Mexico:
Not shure but everyone loves mexico so mexico

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Best reason ever for winning a war :D

Angel, Japan is so in debt, while Korea isnt.

I am a Korean, so let me say this as I know a bunch:

If China and Korea are allies (they really are slowly becoming allies), in a war, it wouldnt really just be Korea Vs Japan, it would be:

Korea and China VS Japan.

Lol and also Turkey has a better army.

And British is more modernized and more rich.

And Pakistan has nukes.

And Germany is more rich and can shell nukes out pretty quick if not for their limits after WWII.

PS. Not Swiss Cheese (eww). Swiss bankers and chocolate, and Belgian WAFFLES

North Korean?

and Im Mexican in case everyone is wondering well 1/4

Grandpa Born in Mexico

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Originally Posted by MrHyde

Angel, Japan is so in debt, while Korea isnt.

I am a Korean, so let me say this as I know a bunch:

If China and Korea are allies (they really are slowly becoming allies), in a war, it wouldnt really just be Korea Vs Japan, it would be:

Korea and China VS Japan.

Lol and also Turkey has a better army.

And British is more modernized and more rich.

And Pakistan has nukes.

And Germany is more rich and can shell nukes out pretty quick if not for their limits after WWII.

PS. Not Swiss Cheese (eww). Swiss bankers and chocolate, and Belgian WAFFLES

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Wait wait wait.

Japan doesn't even have an army. The most they're allowed to have due to WWII is a militia and police, same goes for Germany.

Nobody. End Of World

USA vs China = WWIII
Mexico vs Spain = Spain because Mexico is weak right now

the world ends in 2012 so who cares?

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Originally Posted by Thalric

the world ends in 2012 so who cares?

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People who don't believe it will end.

First off, love the topic. +1 to OP.

Germany VS France- tough to say. Germany has no military, however, as stated, they could probably get their shiz together pretty quickly and whip out a few nukes before too long. Really can't say.

USA VS China (without nuclear bombs)- wouldn't happen. Considering how over-the-top in debt the US is to China, a war between both would crash both economies and pretty soon there'd be two less countries on the map. (Easy pickin's for Russia?)

China VS Russia (nuclear bombs in)- that would be fun to see, regardless of who won. Most likely China.

USA VS Russia (no nuclear bombs)- USA

South Korea VS North Korea- North

Spain VS Mexico- Hah! Spain. The bordering states in the US would probably recede and join up with Spain. :p

Japan VS South Korea- Wouldn't happen, but if it did, South Korea.

Israel VS Egypt- Israel. Moses would probably come back from the dead and make it rain frogs on Egypt.

Britain VS India- India

Switzerland VS Belgium (if that happened)- Switzerland.

Pakistan VS India- Pakistan

Turkey VS Iran- Iran

Germany VS France
France would surrender.

USA VS China (without nuclear bombs)
China has a lot more people. Also much cheaper weopons, cause there all made in china.

China VS Russia (nuclear bombs in)
In Soviet Russia war wins you also Russians make BIG nukes, Like world killing nukes, (Tsar bomb anyone? i dont think anyone wants to play with a 500 megatonne sucker.)

USA VS Russia (no nuclear bombs)
Same as above.

South Korea VS North Korea
Korea would probally win.

Spain VS Mexico
mexicans would turn up with a case of Tequila and bring it to a cease fire before the afternoon siesta.

Japan VS South Korea
Japan, cause they would out wierd junk south Korea

Israel VS Egypt
Israel, cause there spost to be Gods people so if they lose it makes the big man look bad.

Britain VS India
the pommies would win. They sailed the fleet halfway round the world to deal with one little island rebeling. god olny knows what they would send for a BIG country. and i belive India still looks up to the Pommies since they were part of the empire for a looong time

Switzerland VS Belgium (if that happened)
Switzerland. they would send in there female sports teams and belgians wouldnt want to fight any more.

Pakistan VS India
India, much higher population, and who wants to fight monks.

Turkey VS Iran
Iran, tho there all turkeys anyway.

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Originally Posted by MrHyde

These wars have been fought before (except a couple)

but with modern technology and weapons, who would win now?


Germany VS France (France has the bigger army and the nuclear power due to Germany's army limits, Germany has the bigger economy and more capability to build nukes)

USA VS China (without nuclear bombs) USA we can..... never mind.

China VS Russia (nuclear bombs in) I don't know but that would be some hard writing to read.

USA VS Russia (no nuclear bombs) The USA. We have Chuck Norris, Mr. T, and we have Jackie Chan.

South Korea VS North Korea South Korea has more on their side

Spain VS Mexico Spain because they will use vosotros

Japan VS South Korea even

Israel VS Egypt even

Britain VS India you kidding me? India has elephants

Switzerland VS Belgium (if that happened) don't know

Pakistan VS India power to the elephants

Turkey VS Iran you didnt say no nuclear weapons so Iran.

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My answers are in blue.

Doesnt Russia have the macho Vladimir Putin? (Hope hes not reading this).


And China has the spirit of Bruce Lee, which is stronger than the living Chuck Norris and Mr T

None of these are practical since it would more than likely not be 1 vs 1. However, my answers are in bold.

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Originally Posted by MrHyde

These wars have been fought before (except a couple)

but with modern technology and weapons, who would win now?


Germany VS France (France has the bigger army and the nuclear power due to Germany's army limits, Germany has the bigger economy and more capability to build nukes)
France
USA VS China (without nuclear bombs)
US. China has a one child policy. We would lose some troops but we would wipe out a whole generation.
China VS Russia (nuclear bombs in)
Russia has more nukes. However, it would be whoever can take out the opponents the nuke defense systems first.
USA VS Russia (no nuclear bombs)
Toss up, but I would guess US.
South Korea VS North Korea
North Korea, they also have nukes while South Korea does not.
Spain VS Mexico
Spain.
Japan VS South Korea
South Korea
Israel VS Egypt
Israel
Britain VS India
India
Switzerland VS Belgium (if that happened)
Switzerland
Pakistan VS India
India
Turkey VS Iran
Iran

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I got kind of lazy and did not feel like giving my reasons on all.

It depends, these NK troops are so underfed and so deprived of everything... will they even really fight?

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Originally Posted by MrHyde

It depends, these NK troops are so underfed and so deprived of everything... will they even really fight?

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They only need to take out SK's nuke defenses and they win. NK has a few nukes and could take out the major cities in SK crippling them.

Due to the U.N. I doubt any of these wars could really happen. Also due to the development of nuclear weapons, large moving and occupying armies aren't necessary anymore. As was show in the Iraq conflict, quick and decisive attacks on infrastructure and personnel can really disable a country very quickly. But as all of you I am going to come up with who I think would win and why.
Germany vs. France. Germany is my obvious choice if they were the attackers. With them not buying into the euro they have a much stronger currency value, and probably the most stable economy in Europe. If France were the attackers although if they were quick enough could overwhelm Germany before Germany could arm themselves.
USA VS. China. This one could be just destroy the world. Imagine how the world would split itself. We see two large super-alliance of China, Iran, North Korea, possibley India. While for the US we would see US, Israel, most of Europe. Africa would play a very small role in this war as a whole. I see a large seawar in the Pacific Ocean headed between China and the US, and a large war taking place in the Middle East. In the end I see the US winning. Though I see the worlds population going from 7billion to about 3-4 billion. Huge determining factor would be Russia. If they hit China from the north and the US was coming from the south is could be the end for China.
China vs Russia. Almost the same as was stated above.
USA vs Russia. impossible at the current date.
SK and NK. If the war sparked between the two again, I see SK pulling through in the end after igniting the war of China vs USA.
Spain vs. Mexico. Mexico, they've done it once, they can do it twice, Mexico would be predominantly defending and the drain on the Spainish supply lines could be to much to hold.
Japan vs. South Korea. South Korea, they are like the Asian version of Israel. They do not get messed with, you mess with them or threaten them they will mess you up.

Israel vs Egypt. Israel would win. Israel has been a stable country for fifty years. Egypt just emerged from a rebellion and revolution. Israel could roll right through them. The true matter is how to consolidate Egypt after capture. Juddism and Islam are very different religions.
Britian vs. India. Britian could win if they attacked swift and precisly. If a long war happened Britain could lose because of manpower reasons. India has around 900million people while Britain has maybe an eigth of that?
Swiss vs. Belgiums. Swiss overall. Much stabler economy. Nearly every man there owns a rifle or assualt rifle. The shere odds of them losing againest Belgium are nearly impossible.
Pakistan vs. India. Let them kill eachother off. Both cause way to many problems for the world.
Turkey vs. Iran. Turkey is neutral and not mention a large stronghold of the Islamic Religion. Iran is much the same, they have no chance at getting into a war againest eachother. If anything a coalition would be formed between the two.

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Originally Posted by Murtagh

Germany vs. France. Germany is my obvious choice if they were the attackers. With them not buying into the euro they have a much stronger currency value, and probably the most stable economy in Europe. If France were the attackers although if they were quick enough could overwhelm Germany before Germany could arm themselves.

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Both Germany and France use the euro...

Yeah they really wont happen, its really a fantasy thing.

Also, NK vs Sk could cause WWIII (also includes Israel VS Egypt, and Britian vs India).

Also, I am interested in a war between Brazil VS Argentina and Chile.

And US VS China and Us VS Russia and China VS Russia would destroy the world

Its interesting what kind of alliances would form for China Vs USA or even china vs Russia.

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Originally Posted by MrHyde

Yeah they really wont happen, its really a fantasy thing.

Also, NK vs Sk could cause WWIII (also includes Israel VS Egypt, and Britian vs India).

Also, I am interested in a war between Brazil VS Argentina and Chile.

And US VS China and Us VS Russia and China VS Russia would destroy the world

Its interesting what kind of alliances would form for China Vs USA or even china vs Russia.

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China and Russia, I dont think will ever happen. As previously I make reference to the book Animal Farm. Some things negotiated in secret, etc ....

Brazil vs Argentina, hmmmm interesting

Off the top of my head, I would say Brazil, cuz well more machismic and Argentina, caint fight ... look at the falkins

I agree sk vs nk could start ww IV, cuz well ww III was the cold war, and is still in play, but still the ROK will soundly defeat the aggresors

china vs usa, if it came to blows? usa would bomb the sneekits out of china, defeat its only carrier in a sea battle, blockaid her ports, and enlist taiwan for giggles.

Chili dont want to fight, no reason to fight, and has better things to do than fight. so nill, cept to say that it might lend a hand to china, giving a base of operations and a safe haven for china's forces, should that cino-usa conflict be upgraded to full fledge war.

Some things that the Japanese do anger me.

I mean Germany apologized for their Nazi actions.

Japanese continue to deny things and still try to take territory from the Koreans and the Chinese (East Sea, thats the real name, not the Sea of Japan).

Japanese governments needs to be humble and apologize and try to reconcil with the Koreans and the Chinese.

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Originally Posted by MrHyde

Some things that the Japanese do anger me.

I mean Germany apologized for their Nazi actions.

Japanese continue to deny things and still try to take territory from the Koreans and the Chinese (East Sea, thats the real name, not the Sea of Japan).

Japanese governments needs to be humble and apologize and try to reconcil with the Koreans and the Chinese.

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How exactly are they going to accomplish that with no army nor navy? Please, explain.

Lol ever heard of Dokdo?

Its exactly right at the halfpoint of Japan and Korea, right at the center of the East Sea.

China, Japan, Korea have all kill themselves over it, but Japan and Korea are the main ones.

Even though Korea governs it and it is their rightful land, Japan still tries to take it and illegally fishes in the sea.

And Japan still has a pretty good military.

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Originally Posted by MrHyde

And Japan still has a pretty good military.

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They aren't even allowed to have one outside the realm of national defense.

No Australia? K.. lol

This will NEVER EVER happen, but david debate:

Australia VS Canada

Britain VS India
I believe britain may win this one quite comfortably.