are you serious?
using a macro IS cheating
how can you compare this to that?
do you even know what a macro is?
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are you serious?
using a macro IS cheating
how can you compare this to that?
do you even know what a macro is?
bollocks
finding loopholes and bugs and exploiting them should get you banned. you know you were doing wrong but you did it anyway. go play any other game and abuse things like people abused the prestige system and you'll be banned before you can even share your exploit with your pathetic little excuses for friends.
play honest and you won't be punished for being dishonest.
Very good reasons IMO. There is a very common culture around gaming nowadays, related to the hyper competitiveness of gaming being refined more and more. I don't think it's a bad thing, I just think people lose perspective of balance, and other players and the system, and get into a very narrow, dogmatic, "win at all costs" mentality, and "there are no rules!!" view. Unfortunately, some times players take things too far to the edge.
PS. This is not the end of the exploits, I guarantee it. Punishing it now before it gets worse is wise. I think you should encourage more exploit reporting. Perhaps with Cent rewards or something.
Bravo. :)
its not a bug
the prestige gain was based on unit costs and logs
if anything the change they made should have affected the cost and damage of the logs and rockfalls making you gain prestige in that manner
you see a log costs more than a warrior so when the log kills the warrio you gain prestige cuz he used more resources than you did
its the same way with honor that why you see some defender winning a battle yet losing honor
and i already said are they gonna take everyones honor now?
cuz i think thats more common then people farming prestige funny thing peopel didnt even realize how the system works
so instead of harshing out to the player or nerfing the prestige gained they should have re-written logs and trebuchets made their prices more comparable to units and lowerd their affectiveness tom compansate for thier lower cost
there thats the fix that makes logical sense to me!
Well i for one, did not gain any prestige through the alleged 'warrior vs npc bug' and yet i was reset.
Thankyou for replying to my first mail -
You stated that i made 100k prestige in 4 days and that i need to prove how i did it. (i am awaiting a response from you with regards to my justification of this).
Since being reset i have since made 24,470 prestige - even while i have spent most of my time here in the forums as well as being offline for a few hours.
I feel that if i was reset for no apparent reason - there must be many other innocent people you have 'caught' in your blanket reset. I also gather (from the forums) that most people didn't realise it was an exploit - one person even explained how prestige is gained (your losses are greater than the losses of the opponent and thus you gain prestige even when you lose) and so is an aspect of the game, rather than a bug.
I believe that if people are willing to sacrifice their troops in order to gain prestige, then that is the way they play the game. Others fight NPC's for resources - that is the way they choose to play. Some fight other players for honor - that is also their choice. I don't see why people are penalised for losing their troops the way they see fit. If they gained the troops through honest methods and not through some other bug - then it's all good.
I also feel that if an bug has been discovered or brought to the attention of the devs, that a mass mail should be sent out, warning people that it exists and that if anyone is found to be using it 'from this time forward' the penalties will be harsh. That's the way it is in other games i play - seems to work for them.
Given that so many innocent people have been penalised and that others unknowingly used the 'bug' (if you want to call it that) - i feel that prestige should be restored to all players.
Had you made the 'bug' known to everyone and they still chose to use it - then a penalty should be applied - however as it wasn't thought of as a bug i have chosen to vote 'they didn't know any better'
You cannot expect to put people in a box, tell them it's a competition to get to the top of the box and then be surprised that they found a way to hasten their rise. While I certainly agree that the exploit should be fixed and not allowed you cannot punish player for developer mistake or oversights. This is purely an attempt to referee after the fact for something you were not present for.
Karsh
In all honesty this prestige nonsense will all be forgot about this time next week, it's like the nerfing of the NPC's, people ranting and raving about it, then it's all forgotten until something else pops up to take it's place. I still think the cheater's should be banned though, naming and shaming them would be a good idea, it's only 150 so shouldn't take up that much room. Cheers.:D
I voted for a removal of exploited prestige.
If all the faults with Evony mechanics that have so far been to the disadvantage of the player (lost troops, resources etc) had been compensated, I may have been pro punishment when it was in our favour. As it is, Evony owes its players leniency.
I would have also felt inclined to vote for punishment if they hadn't stated they new about the problem, but didn't tell us... and didn't fix it either apparently; either fix it or msg us in game that it is a punishable exploit.