Level 10 barb, Archer / war Strat.

Started with 160k archers 106k warriors and the below should prove only 125k archer's and 105k warriors are needed.

Attack 1: 124994k archer + rainbow
Attack 2: 35k archers + 40k warriors + rainbow
Attack 3: 20k archers + 10k warriors + rainbow
Attack 4-9: 10k warriors + rainbow (Rainbow is not needed but get +5-10 prestiege for loosing it)

**** 6 min Re-spawn ****

Rinse + repeat for remainder of attacks.

Attack 1: 20k archers + 10k warriors + rainbow
Attack 2: 13k archers + 10k warriors + rainbow
Attack 3-9: 10k warriors + rainbow


**** NOTES ****

TECH = archery 10, military tradition 10, iron working 10, medicine 9, compass 8

Buildings that were important = 6 academy, 10 rally point, 9 feasting hall

1) 130+ Atk hero for first attack of ea 9 attack wave. All other heros used were 100+ attack.

2) Use medic camp after each re-spawn

3) War ensign, penicillin, corset, war horn were all used on FIRST Attack.

3) Total losses at loyalty zero were 19k archers, 10k warriors.

4) Total items gained = 1 speaker, 8 nation, 4 justice (kept attacking till I got 8 justice so I didn't have to abandon a city.)

5) If you don't do the 3-9 waves of warrior spam the traps will slowly get more and more and losses of troops will gradually grow.

6) For those of you who don't know "Rainbow" is 1 of every troop from Warrior to Cataphract.

7) As long as to wait for Attacks 1-7 to fully return and resend immediately while waiting for 8 and 9 you wont run into a double spawn.



(tonight I will attempt a 10 barb with 99994 + rainbow as first wave and I will report back.)

Sign..., that is war ensign.
Do like this if your hero is not strong enough and dont have lv10 rally:
1st wave: 50k warriors
2st wave: 40k warriors
main wave: 90k archers
second main wave: 25k archers
for other wave, just send pure 10k archers without rainbow or pure pikemen, save your time.

Thank you PQ9, you shoulda spent your time making a good thread along time so before I wasted my time obviously ^^.

You only lost 19k archers and 10k warriors total? Can you verify this? It doesn't sound right.

ITS OFFICIAL, 99994 + rainbow will work (used a 142 atk hero with all item buffs except excaliber)


Same losses as with war ensign. 11k archers lost first wave with 2k regened.

All other first waves lost 1k or less. Total of about 8-10 waves for loss of 19k archers (with use of medic camp after every attack regening 200-400 archers.)

Ill try to post a pick of the report. I refuse to post a report of a empty lvl 10 barb so some nub can try to take it from me.

Lost 25k warriors and again about 19k of archers on this capture.

REPORTS:

changed my mind when i looked at URL it doesnt show location. Heres all the proof from 1 to 5 of all my waves.

21:31:36 first attack to 22:05:12 last attack
************ First Attack ***********
battle15.evony.com/default.html?logfile/df/49/3a/91/df493a9162d55f3906fa2372bbb69f21.xml (first attack waited for return.)
********First official wave of 9 attacks********
battle15.evony.com/default.html?logfile/41/2c/54/93 /412c5493e503425bf8bc9e3f33e59bce.xml
battle15.evony.com/default.html?logfile/ad/06/c7/89/ad06c789c36c553cdd82b6b64c6ef58d.xml
battle15.evony.com/default.html?logfile/13/45/79/79/13457979c8534d03ffc8c8d8d05e16ec.xml
battle15.evony.com/default.html?logfile/8f/96/e3/ff/8f96e3ff98c377fc0efe0880f86c8d97.xml
battle15.evony.com/default.html?logfile/9b/63/34/28/9b633428258d94aecfc7b09838e4b33f.xml
battle15.evony.com/default.html?logfile/b9/a3/4d/ab/b9a34dabffec4f5665c4de430c9652e0.xml
battle15.evony.com/default.html?logfile/98/ce/10/1e/98ce101ee3cd68fa96938516297d0d28.xml
battle15.evony.com/default.html?logfile/fd/86/d8/d5/fd86d8d5b933f6f79daf78a39a683deb.xml
battle15.evony.com/default.html?logfile/60/ba/a9/6d/60baa96dacb0413c6926bd245c309494.xml

************ Second wave of 5 waves total************
battle15.evony.com/default.html?logfile/89/18/bf/8a/8918bf8aef2acc3e75ca210120abfa3d.xml
battle15.evony.com/default.html?logfile/b8/5a/5b/2a/b85a5b2ad2839712d41c96650fc21835.xml
battle15.evony.com/default.html?logfile/52/c1/36/cd/52c136cd08653d8a07567f36bf57dffe.xml
battle15.evony.com/default.html?logfile/26/23/48/e2/262348e2d503ac3aafd7e9e546830c3d.xml
battle15.evony.com/default.html?logfile/af/c0/e7/f4/afc0e7f43babab7624f4dcfb027d0f51.xml
battle15.evony.com/default.html?logfile/94/ef/56/8e/94ef568ecb2ab44e6238dc7642d256ed.xml
battle15.evony.com/default.html?logfile/f0/9c/94/54/f09c945496aa435af607710f2c9a22ad.xml
battle15.evony.com/default.html?logfile/2c/23/ec/7c/2c23ec7c2a5560f7577c7abb7513f7eb.xml
battle15.evony.com/default.html?logfile/c4/12/1f/23/c4121f2392249527e98922ce6442faa6.xml

*************Third Wave of 5 **************
battle15.evony.com/default.html?logfile/5a/29/ce/b0/5a29ceb0154238da14df346a392f16a6.xml
battle15.evony.com/default.html?logfile/26/de/2b/c7/26de2bc7b5d98f1ab028df5b8c4d9474.xml
battle15.evony.com/default.html?logfile/32/6c/37/35/326c3735deb0dcf0320dac06df41d1f2.xml
battle15.evony.com/default.html?logfile/15/56/9e/c2/15569ec28e1f5465fac665e6d4b65d6d.xml
battle15.evony.com/default.html?logfile/83/c7/59/b9/83c759b9ce58c12e1e96a41bd5c8e60b.xml
battle15.evony.com/default.html?logfile/8a/e3/13/7f/8ae3137f7c3a77cb69013e3ada536895.xml
battle15.evony.com/default.html?logfile/78/11/08/fb/781108fbae042c147945ecef320db2d6.xml
battle15.evony.com/default.html?logfile/a3/ee/a4/3a/a3eea43a56241af1eebb4b9b07201eaf.xml
battle15.evony.com/default.html?logfile/1c/12/0a/c9/1c120ac9123531db5c5a3f7c88d5a6d1.xml

***********Fourth Wave of 5 ************
battle15.evony.com/default.html?logfile/cc/7c/41/7a/cc7c417a3616f19366a9b3d1076ed4be.xml
battle15.evony.com/default.html?logfile/ae/71/32/f1/ae7132f15b8ffb8989698c9467ffccae.xml
battle15.evony.com/default.html?logfile/b7/72/de/e8/b772dee8a630dbd21e10402c467c2065.xml
battle15.evony.com/default.html?logfile/12/d1/7b/cd/12d17bcd4424b4bff554b2da9802dd18.xml
battle15.evony.com/default.html?logfile/04/45/23/3d/0445233dfc313afd732d7a7905852cbd.xml
battle15.evony.com/default.html?logfile/74/97/b4/de/7497b4de3a93077cddfa5c54040fbcc9.xml
battle15.evony.com/default.html?logfile/43/ab/1d/84/43ab1d84aac9a3a574fbcaa948135538.xml
battle15.evony.com/default.html?logfile/e1/d4/28/c6/e1d428c67916a7147363f1b045f29f5f.xml
battle15.evony.com/default.html?logfile/a1/f1/0b/98/a1f10b986fb07291c6625fa8c1db7895.xml

************* Fifth and Final wave, Town taken on 8th attack ********
battle15.evony.com/default.html?logfile/cd/f4/e8/74/cdf4e8749c91cfa63d9a9f6c5f55cc4d.xml
battle15.evony.com/default.html?logfile/25/a9/02/7f/25a9027f959f708144ae2c0e50b8c88c.xml
battle15.evony.com/default.html?logfile/d7/2c/dc/3e/d72cdc3e23015192fdc8bc301143472e.xml
battle15.evony.com/default.html?logfile/19/7e/21/3f/197e213fdd5f56f1ba593cdfd95b9ce2.xml
battle15.evony.com/default.html?logfile/e5/fb/7c/6a/e5fb7c6aa442df7e651600082605454b.xml
battle15.evony.com/default.html?logfile/18/d4/77/35/18d47735218703dce482d13906ecd057.xml
battle15.evony.com/default.html?logfile/09/60/60/f5/096060f58ce8a5b57c9eb346777ca915.xml
battle15.evony.com/default.html?logfile/af/c8/a8/64/afc8a864971bb027080672ea1432aee0.xml

****** Captured ^^ ******


Started with 111k archers or so and 155k warriors.
Ended with 96k archers, 126k warriors.
(results will vary)

I hope this is enough proof. PS if your gonna waste your time going through an proving i lost a specific number of troops...... your retarded first off and second I only estimated those numbers at the beginning.

awsome................

what is rainbow?

This is my second try. I keep getting hit with huge spawns, one of 120k and one of 160 warriors already. I hope it does not happen again but i have no clue why this keeps happening. maybe because it is 11 minutes one way to the keep?

Thank You Very Much Nevet. Just took a level 10 myself using your strategy.
Took a few more casualties than mentioned but not alot. Anyway using this technique it was relatively easy to do. Once again Thanks

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Originally Posted by nevet

Buildings that were important = 6 academy, 10 rally point, 9 feasting hall

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You have a level 10 rally point listed, but you only send 9 attacks at a time. Or am I missing something?

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Originally Posted by Svean

what is rainbow?

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1 of every soldier type.

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Originally Posted by Jarlaxle27

You have a level 10 rally point listed, but you only send 9 attacks at a time. Or am I missing something?

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He only has a lvl 9 Feasting Hall.

What distance was this NPC from your attacking city?

Rich people...hate you rich people! Plenty of ensigns and michys scripts to go around for you eh >.>

1 mile is the distance. (however read the forum post about insta barb 10 capture useing camp technique.)

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Originally Posted by nevet

1 mile is the distance. (however read the forum post about insta barb 10 capture useing camp technique.)

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Did not find insta barb 10 capture searching for it... Any links???

I have failed twice trying to take this level 10 npc. Makes me sad that I keep having bad luck. I would love some advice...

Monti, I would expect that what they mean is send the troops to attack but use "camp time" to schedule the waves.

Have the first wave (of 9) scheduled to attack at say 10:00:00 and each of the subsequent waves 1 second later... so: 10:00:01 | :02 | :03 | :04 ... etc. Then if I read this right 6 minutes later you would send the next wave of 9 armies.

In camp time, just below hero selection on the March screen, you set the appropriate delay in minutes and hours if necessary.

Lets assume it takes your army 20 minutes to get to the target... if they leave at 09:40:00 they will hit at precisely 10:00:00. There is an arrival clock in the lower right that shows the date and time when your troops will arrive. So you can control the arrival time to the second using it. Remember to give yourself about 9 minutes to play with as there are 9 waves in each cycle.

So set camp time to 1 hour 10 minutes (arriving at 10:00:00) then the next wave to 1 hour 9 minutes so you have 1 minute in which to get the second timing correct. Remember you want the waves to arrive within a second of each other and the extra 1 minutes give you enough time to select a new hero and click ok at the right moment to get 10:00:01 as the arrival time if you miss it use 1 hour 8 minutes in camp time.

I might be wrong about what they mean by instant capture but that is how to use camp time to schedule an attack. Also as far as I know two armies arriving at the exact same time will NOT combine forces nor will they face a diminished enemy. They will each face the exact same troops & defences. Its feature not a bug... honest.

Is that really how they do it??? No threads ever mention using camp time to make sure all your troops arrive at a certain time. I am 11:23 away. I keep running into 80k 120k and 160k warrior spawns, is this due to the travel time?

Yes if you are 11:23 away then this is the problem. You are seeing more troops as the city has more time to regenerate them.

So by using camp time you would be able to have your armies hitting a second after each and then next wave start 6 minutes after that. So you don't get the extra warriors.

I know of no other method for scheduling attacks.

http://bbs.evony.com/showthread.php?t=31929 <<< link to instant 10 barb capture.

Respawn of 40k warriors is every 6mins. Monti you could have found this on your own. Please use evony wiki and evony FAQ areas to figure things out before filling up threads with junk.

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Originally Posted by monti

Is that really how they do it??? No threads ever mention using camp time to make sure all your troops arrive at a certain time. I am 11:23 away. I keep running into 80k 120k and 160k warrior spawns, is this due to the travel time?

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Yes, frankly you are too far away as a round trip takes 22 minutes
which means there is no way that you can send waves timed correctly. If you have an open slot I would wait until a nearby flat cycles to lvl 10, then capture it, make a city then abandon, Thus creating a lvl 10 barbarian city right next to your existing city.

Thank you for your investigative work nevet. I captured one tonight using your strat. I started with around 120k archers/warriors. I ended with around 95kish warriors, 90kish archers. Took me 46 attacks. After the first wave of 100k archers, I sent the remaining archers and around 70kish warriors. I then used 10-20k warriors and 10-20k archers using 8 heros for the remaining attacks.

I got 4 nation, 3 justice, 1 courage and a mich script.

I had archery 10, and everything else at 9. I only had a level 9 rally spot so I used war ensign to get the 100k first attack.

Hey nevet. Just wanted to say thanks for verifying :). Forgot about this thread, and I didn't mean to troll you like that. Thanks again. Very useful post!

How different would this be if I had one 100+ Atk Hero and all other heroes are between 70-90 atk?

Also, to the OP,what level is your horseback riding? Or is that not a factor with archers?

I got a lvl 10 with this method.. works great thanks for the post.

I used this technique, it worked good, nice guide.

For the 1st attack i sent 99,993 archers and 1 rainbow using a hero with 159 attack. I lost 40k archers in that attack, but it was the only time I took any real losses. I also used no items. It helps greatly to be right next to the lvl 10 barb town you plan to conquer or very close. Kudos.

One question, does this also count if my compass is 10, i heard something about F'king up you warrior arrival time, if youre compass is higher than 8.

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This is my second try. I keep getting hit with huge spawns, one of 120k and one of 160 warriors already. I hope it does not happen again but i have no clue why this keeps happening. maybe because it is 11 minutes one way to the keep?

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Distance is a factor - and the time it takes to do the round trip is important. Personally dont attack a lvl 10 NPC that is more than 4 miles (8mins for archers). The ways round that if the distance is longer is:

* Use Archers/Swordsmen instead of Archers/Warriors as they move faster.

* Space your attacks out to 3 minutes apart - but send a larger army (40k+ archers / 10k+ swordsmen) in each wave. If you hit it every 3 minutes that will prevent the huge spawns. By the time the last attack wave hits - the first attack troops should have returned and have been sent out again.

* Attack from multiple cities/get and ally to help by sending a few waves to fill any large gaps in your attack cycle.

The other advantage is in spacing armies out is that you will gain more nation/justice medals needed to the Duke/Furstin titles.

My Tips are: if you just want to take over the city - cram as many attacks in the shortest time. My fastest takeover was just 10 minutes by launching attacks from 2 cities (I admit the NPC was just 1 mile away) - just 30 attacks was enough to do the job.

If you are on a medal hunt space your attacks out and use more archers per attack. Spaced my attacks to 3-6 mins apart - hit with 70k archers and 20k swords. Gained 15 nation & 10 justice medals over 2 hours - before then capturing it for good measure ;)

So far Ive taken 3 myself and helped a team mate take another - so becoming a bit of a veteran at NPC 10 captures

loyalty is at 50, but I failed hard. I lost 155k warriors and so far 35k archers. Gonna try to capture it without warriors now :P

took l10 with only 18k archer loss using 99950 archers plus rainbow and 8 follow ups of 10k archers, repeated 3 times every 6 mins. now abandoning and doing again for medals (just sending main attacks every 6 mins without the waves)

You cannot take L10 with only 18k archer loss, that can be done only by someone who has a very high attack hero to start, and is able to send 30k archer waves with relatively high attack heros. For most of those who are looking to take 10 that is not the situation.

First attack on 10 is one that will cost you most archers. With a hero bellow 150 attack you face wipe out. So get your hero over 150 before you have a go at 10.

There are 3 things respawning in an NPC city. First, wall defenses respawn instantly (10%) and then another 10% every min. You want to hit NPC in intervals of less than a min.

Lvl 10 respawns 40k wars at some very odd timer if not randomly. Perhaps I just can't figure it out but it sure is not 6 min.

Then there is a loyalty regen, I believe loyalty regens by 2 or 4 every 2 min. You must beat this clock if you are to the the town.

Awesome post, worked about as advertised. My heroes had low attacks (only 5 in the 120-140 range, 4 of them low-mid 90s). Took my first level 10 in 45 minutes using this exactly. Only had a rally 10 with no war ensign so my first wave was 99994 archer + rainbow, then followed everything else. Started with 135k archers and 140k warriors, ended with 110k archers and 100k warriors. Losses a little more than the OPs, but for taking a level 10 without waiting days and weeks for 20-30k ballista was well worth the small troop loss.

I took mine with lvl 8 archery, distance of 1.4 miles from the target, a lvl 8 rally pt and 100 Atk hero and 7 others around 70 to 85, it cost me dearly as I started the attack first up with 180k archers used war ensign, corselet, Penicillin and warhorn, 1st wave contained 100k archers and 80k in the next wave.

Then broke my attacks into waves of 10k with each 4th wave being larger to offset the regen, at that distance the target was 2 min 2 secs away, i got the NPC, but lost 141k archers from my total of 180 to start, I also used 20k warriors and lost 5k of those.

I achieved the goal but it set me back 4 days trying to recover the lost troops, from it i got 2 mich scripts and a 3 justice medals...although not sure if it was 3 or just 2

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Originally Posted by nevet

Attack 1: 124994k archer + rainbow

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I applaud you for having this many archers.

Anyone know what sending 1k catapults and 10k balistas in first wave does to help cut down archer casualties - assuming lvl10 rally point, atk 165+, but with no items?

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Originally Posted by nevet

Started with 160k archers 106k warriors and the below should prove only 125k archer's and 105k warriors are needed.

Attack 1: 124994k archer + rainbow

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Nice but too many archers casualty...
If u don't want to lose so many archers do it like this:
Attack 1 and 2:5k warriors and 30 secs after that
Attack2:1k pikes,1k swords,96k archers and 2k transporters to take the resources too
this is the spearhead report:
battle19.evony.com/default.html?logfile/20090906/98/ea/98ea14c8f17158cd7ed646b6107ef9fb.xml

If U use rainbow or you send warriors instead of pikes or swordsmen you will lose at least 50k archers...look at these reports:
battle19.evony.com/default.html?logfile/20090904/16/d3/16d342ef73ef5ff1bf4b72f5c8612ae7.xml

battle19.evony.com/default.html?logfile/20090903/d0/cc/d0ccf0d8f06a29e6637dfff6458465df.xml

the attack of the hero was around 170 but I think the difference wont be very big if u scout the NPC till you will find a low Lv hero there...the one i faced was Lv 47
The rest of the process should work like nevet said

Cheers...i hope it will work for you too:D

What is the point of Necroing such an old thread Feom, OP is 2 months old.

question in regards to this as i just had a thought and unsure if it would work...what if you built your own L10 NPC and attacked it immediately (assuming you built it on the flat next door so its within 1 mile). if you did this would that L10 instantly be full defenses as soon as you abandon the city or does it follow the normal trend of 10% every 6 min? because if it follows the 10% trend you could easily capture a L10 by making your own next door and have little to no loss in troops...just curious if that would work