The new mods!

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07-17-2009, 10:34 AM
Zenrax

The new mods!

Well, seeing as the last thread got shut for asking questions, I won't do that now. This is a completely factual and unbiased status report for the new hires.

Well, let's start with post counts. At the time of their hiring, the new mods had a total of 2206 posts, 74% of them belonging to Bickyz and Ruyuk, and 3 had less than 6 posts.

Now, 4 days later, they have 2355 posts, which averages out to less than 4 posts, per day, per mod. Happily, every new mod has climbed out of the 10> post pit!

Now let's track their performance. As a baseline, let's use the Guide forum, which has had 5 of the new mods assigned to it. At first glance, it appears chock-full of spam threads, and it also seems as if no mod has posted there in over a week. Unfortunately, it also appears that way under closer examination...

Well, let's take a peek at good ol' OTD instead, which has received 4 assignees! After some searching, I have found no evidence of a mod besides FoxyBunny posting here. I found a LOT of spam, but no mods.

Well, that's it for the 4-day status report! Feel free to formulate your own opinions on the new moderators, and remember, this information might not accurately reflect their performance.

(Please don't spam or go off-topic, I don't want another closing.)
07-17-2009, 10:41 AM
Are

Nice update bro.
07-17-2009, 10:45 AM
iRovster

This information is 100% Correct
07-17-2009, 11:52 AM
abracax

a couple mods have posted in OT, just not the OT mods, and logrus was active the other night. Even Dawnseeker got in on some of the games the other night.
07-17-2009, 11:57 AM
ABakker

There are reasons behind alot of the behavior that is being shown around the forums, but I do agree that another mod here in the OT that cares about it would be nice.
07-17-2009, 12:09 PM
CHiH

I don't know about OT, since I don't post here much, but I know Help and Questions needs mods that actually help and answer questions. They should think of themselves as community helpers, not just thread closers. There are lots of nubs drowning in the sea of conflicting/inaccurate/incomplete information out there.
07-17-2009, 12:35 PM
Zenrax

-_-

That is all I have to say to you.
07-17-2009, 01:09 PM
Milonius

Right on! Awesome post! No offense, but seems like the only thing korgeza and Sovverf do is just randomly pop and say, "Hey, that's bad, I'm closing this topic. Bye."
07-17-2009, 04:31 PM
Zenrax

It's possible that they, being relatively new to the forum, are performing the duties of moderators without the experience gained by being normal members. They may only know how to moderate, not post.
07-17-2009, 04:32 PM
MsArianna

i wouldnt want to be a mod :p
07-17-2009, 04:34 PM
Zenrax

Yeah, you'd have to infract everybody for sexual harrassment. :p
07-17-2009, 04:37 PM
MsArianna

LOL what an uproar that would cause!!!
07-17-2009, 04:38 PM
pokey

Quote:

Originally Posted by Knuckles

its okay. i still have the red infractions from your little power trip. I will take you with me everywhere my love.

edit: if it makes you feel better Igorus or something gave me a warning for saying dangit. so someone is active.

Ha, I got infracted for saying "bish" in a thread that was on page 26 of the general discussions, but I got it retracted or whatever they call it. Now I only have infractions left for "Spreading False information about the staff" :eek:

If MsArianna were a mod, I'd just hit on Lady Arianna. Same thing right?
07-17-2009, 07:53 PM
Kittiana

Katiara was on recently...but I noticed while I was a mod that the majority of the OT mods had disappeared leaving me and just foxybunny to pretty much clear things up. Now it appears to just be foxybunny, bless her, doing her best.

As for the other mods, it does bother me that they seem to be brand new members that aren't well known on the forums. I think if people know you and know how approachable you can be it is more effective to the community.

I hope they've shown the new mods how to use all the tools as well because if you've never moderated before its very confusing, took me ages to figure out how to approve posts. I hope the communication is a lot better as well, I personally don't think Skype is effective at all.

And my final point...I wonder how many of them are actually 18+
I know one of the mods is under 18, lovely person, but if you set up rules and boundaries why break them?
07-17-2009, 08:24 PM
etrnldarkness

Twice people have mentioned an underage mod. I PM'd asking who - but I was never responded to.

The rules when applying (originally) clearly stated you had to be over 18.

I have no issue with people being new (or only posting as a mod and enforcing rules) as long as they do it properly.

It'll be interesting to see how it turns out. =)
07-17-2009, 08:27 PM
drizztix

i dont understand why they didnt make me a mod.. :/
07-17-2009, 08:34 PM
Bickyz

hey guys, im new to moderating and trying my best to get through as many posts + threads as i can. as well as juggling my social life and college course :)
ive posted a fair few times, especially in my favourite section the OTD :)
give me a lil time to get used to how things work and ill try my best ;)

Bickyz out
07-17-2009, 08:38 PM
joemanf

No! He's changed already... :(
and they didn't make Drizz a mod cause he supports the people a little too much...
07-17-2009, 08:38 PM
figaro1010

I don't know...there are actually two schools of thought regarding moderator involvement in the process. (which it sounds like Zenrax was kinda alluding to)

In help and questions I can see how a thorough knowledge of the information would be required, but in general discussion and OTcrowd? I can see it going both ways...

If the person is well aware of what has gone on before, they could use their judgment concerning whether a post really is breaking the rules...on the other hand I can see this person giving leeway to those same people because they know them....It really depends on the moderator in question and if they can keep their perspective.

I don't see what post counts really have to do with how good a moderator is. Remember they might be the type of moderator who likes to stay in the background. The activity of the forums they are moderating would also be in question. If they are doing their jobs well, everyone knows the rules then they rarely have to step in and spank someone. So THAT might be a point of contention to discuss, but really if that is a problem, it sounds like it would be more appropriate for a PM to their boss.

I have no problems with a guideline being put in place making 18 the minimum age to moderate. There are exceptions to this and that is why I think it should be a guideline and not a rule. If someone 16 or 17 comes along and has no issues treating everyone with respect and consistently applying the forums rules then there is no problem...
07-17-2009, 08:52 PM
Kittiana

Quote:

Originally Posted by etrnldarkness

Twice people have mentioned an underage mod. I PM'd asking who - but I was never responded to.

The rules when applying (originally) clearly stated you had to be over 18.

I have no issue with people being new (or only posting as a mod and enforcing rules) as long as they do it properly.

It'll be interesting to see how it turns out. =)

Why on earth aren't you a mod anymore?!?!?!?!
And if you really wish to know I can PM you and let you know.
07-17-2009, 08:54 PM
etrnldarkness

I stepped down. =)

And yes - PM please <3

@Figaro: It has been my experience that some of the greatest mods/admins are those whom don't post heavily, but instead stick to business. You do of course need a mixture since mods should help keep things active. :)
07-17-2009, 09:55 PM
MsArianna

Quote:

Originally Posted by drizztix

i dont understand why they didnt make me a mod.. :/

because they didnt trust you and your oily muscles ;)
or they were jealous haha
07-17-2009, 09:58 PM
woody513

I reckon a good mod should be like Foxybunny to be honest. She gets the balance of being strict and sociable just right.;)
07-17-2009, 10:10 PM
Zenrax

FoxyBunny is like a drink. One part responsibility, two parts awesome, two parts goofy, with a sprinkling of strict.

Shaken, not stirred.
07-17-2009, 10:11 PM
woody513

lol good way to put it
07-17-2009, 11:26 PM
Zenrax

I'm sorry for some of the posts that have been put on here, but the original post in no way hostile towards the mods. Is a graph showing Apple's stock price over a month hostile towards Apple?

Again, this is ABSOLUTELY not a complaint geared toward the conduct of the new moderators. As you can see, I anticipated that some people could take it as such, and included a disclaimer. "Feel free to formulate your own opinions on the new moderators, and remember, this information might not accurately reflect their performance."

I'd really prefer if you could just take threads at face value, instead of automatically suspecting them because my name is on the post.
07-17-2009, 11:33 PM
! mINDsELFiNDULGE !

Quote:

Originally Posted by figaro1010

I don't know...there are actually two schools of thought regarding moderator involvement in the process. (which it sounds like Zenrax was kinda alluding to)

In help and questions I can see how a thorough knowledge of the information would be required, but in general discussion and OTcrowd? I can see it going both ways...

If the person is well aware of what has gone on before, they could use their judgment concerning whether a post really is breaking the rules...on the other hand I can see this person giving leeway to those same people because they know them....It really depends on the moderator in question and if they can keep their perspective.

I don't see what post counts really have to do with how good a moderator is. Remember they might be the type of moderator who likes to stay in the background. The activity of the forums they are moderating would also be in question. If they are doing their jobs well, everyone knows the rules then they rarely have to step in and spank someone. So THAT might be a point of contention to discuss, but really if that is a problem, it sounds like it would be more appropriate for a PM to their boss.

I have no problems with a guideline being put in place making 18 the minimum age to moderate. There are exceptions to this and that is why I think it should be a guideline and not a rule. If someone 16 or 17 comes along and has no issues treating everyone with respect and consistently applying the forums rules then there is no problem...

True. Also, just because a mod has low post counts doesn't mean they have no previous mod experience.

And three, it does not mean it is their first account. New accounts. They can be protecting their in game accounts from spammer and bullies/jerks/malcontents. Unbelievable, but true! There are people who are so weak mentally, who will target your 'home' to get revenge for other unrelated issues.