What is your wave configuration for that setup?
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What is your wave configuration for that setup?
Nice guide might use it soon.
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Name: far cry
Server: 65
Alliance: EGODS - officer
Prestige: 189,096
Ranked: 904
Nice guide, took about 40 minutes, and lost 35K warriors, and 25K archers in all. Thanks.
Fantastic guide, Will use in future.
Beautiful work, prabhu. rep +1
Thank you guys for your comments and +rep :) I am thinking abt adding screenshots(I gotto find a hero to fit this case now;)) and a few minor changes, when I get some time in a stretch.
Fairly good guide, but I thought the subject of Penicillin should be brought up:
Penicillin is not nearly as useful as people at first think. The description is somewhat misleading, and can make it appear that you will take 30% less losses. However, it works on the other side, in that you can heal 30% more troops. But, since the calculation is done on the healing side, it works out that you have 13% casualties instead of 10% (Since 10 * 1.03 = 13), so it's a 3% reduction in troop loss, not 30% as may be expected.
Plus, Evony rounds all troop recovery to the medic camp down rather than up, so the 3% actually works out to be a bit less due to this rounding. With an expected loss of 30K archers, penicillin usually only makes the difference of about 500-700 archers (and maybe 1000 warriors). In the grand scheme of things, that's barely any.
So if you don't have penicillin, don't worry too much, it makes very little difference percentage wise. If you do have penicillin, it might be better saved for when you're attacking other players, since your relative honor determins your casualty rate, and when attacking others with similar or higher honor penicillin can be much more effecitve.
As for items in general:
For reference, my first conquering of an NPC 10 was done with all items and my second was done with none. My heroes were slighly stronger in the second try, and my losses between the two attempts were actually pretty close. 25k archers and 35k warriors the first time and 30k archers and 40k warriors the second. I'm not sure how much effect the items had on those numbers, but the difference is certainly there, if maybe smaller than I had at first expected.
The thing that was really interesting was that most of the difference in losses came from my initial attack and secondary wave. My original attempt I lost 6.5k archers in my first wave and in my second I lost just over 10k. Secondary waves were closer, differing by only about 3k. From there on out, my 15k/15k archer/warrior waves lost extremely similar numbers, with the only noticable differences happening at the respawn ticks, and even then it was only really different in the warrior losses. So it appears utilizing a huge atk hero on your first and second waves might offset the need for items even if the rest of your heros are rather pathetic comparatively.
A quick methodology suggestion here that I haven't seen as well:
You can substitute a wave of 40k warriors for the 20k/20k loyalty dropping waves as long as you suppliment an archer wave every 'tick' to clean out the 40k warrior spawn. It actually works out to be slightly cheaper than the archer waves, but you take significantly more warrior losses. The benefit here? For a good village 5k archers take about 5 hours to make (or 1k per hour) alternatively 20k warriors can be built in about 2 hours (10k per hour). This means you can build your loyalty dropping waves in about 4 hours each instead of 15, and at lower cost. Just a thought.
Just thought I'd add my thoughts to this already good guide.
Cheers,
Taco
Welp, I just did my first lvl 10, server 85. Things went fine, with one exception, drops.
I sent a small warrior bomb as wave 1 - so the drop was wave 3, right after my spearhead. THE drop, as in one... I took my time, hoping for a few drops, and cleared a total of 15 rounds with 40k warriors before taking it. My one drop was a Speaker. I understand it's a newer server, normal medals drops are horrible enough, but this is beyond my comprehension, seeing as NPC 10's are kind of the end-game accomplishment, excluding player battles. /sighs... Just more confirmation to me that the game planners here are typical mediocre noobs likely recruited from the barrels bottom.
Thanks everyone for the great guide, and all the great input. :)
I just conquered a lvl10 NPC earlier today, well, 10 mins ago.:p
Lost 35k archers, 50k wars...:(
and all i won was 1 holy water!!!!!!!!!:eek:
First attack battle85.evony.com/default.html?logfile/20091125/dc/da/dcda6b318f2aa6cb737f7683e41488c3.xml
with ivory horn, war ensign, penicillin...:p
Last attack
battle85.evony.com/default.html?logfile/20091125/76/a3/76a3094cd2f73c72211015027e02884b.xml
Lvl10 everything except medicine 9
Hero attack: main 151
others 90-109
Earned lots of prestige though :D
I cant believe this, grrr, please change the medal drop rate!!!!!!!:mad:
Hi guys,
Thank you for your comments/support this far :)
I have reviewed and updated a few stuff in the post.
Once again, comments welcome! ;)