Not to cause an argument, but to prove you wrong, i started out from scratch, have not donated 1 cent, not ever raided a barb (tried today, failed miserably, if you want to advise me what i did wrong, http://bbs.evony.com/showthread.php?t=43761) yet i have a city that makes 1mil iron/hr. Another that makes 1mil wood an hour, (yes, 37 lv 9 buildings in respective cities) and also Total production of about 3mil food/hr (Rest of my cities are all farms)
I make out just fine, thank you, and have a rather nice army :D

