How much prestige do you get on average by farming a lvl10?
Printable View
How much prestige do you get on average by farming a lvl10?
you cant for sure say that about hero as the 50 might have been politics of 60 attack 20 and visa vearsa thats the trouble with 10's.
170 isnt also good enough for the layer you use, you need more layers until hero 220 or more.
Your scouts dont do anything I think there has been a big deabte as to effectiveness of scouts in NPC battle, best layer I use for the low heros is 1.7k worer/ warrior, 1k swords, pike 2k trans, 1 cav 1 phract, 92598 archers never been more than 8.2k losses typical results are 6-7k
In short if its been working defending hero screwed you happens with the 10's
I farmed it and got hosed.
hero: att168
warrior: 1700
pike/swords: 1000 each
archers: 93298
transports: 3000
cav: 1
Cataphract: 1
Losses
all warrior/pike/swords
74051 archers lost
lasted 24 rounds.
what happened? i thought this was suppose to work? not the end of the world, but it hurt.
Here is my todays attack report, like usual 2 5k warriors waves, and scout for 1-10 lvl hero battle6.evony.com/default.html?logfile/20091203/4e/2b/4e2bc7520516aeeab7f24f95b906651f.xml
thanks for the info, great thread :D
battle34.evony.com/default.html?logfile/20091204/33/7b/337b2909fd641a57c1e6e0a62e433818.xml
my first attack on a level 10 npc, worked a treat.
i scouted for alow level hero 1st, no waves of warriors, just went straight in for the kill :P
(all i need to do now is upgrade logistics to level 10 to carry it all back)
ok i tried my first level 10 npc. at the time my hero's attack was 125. All tech's were at level 10, except for compass which was level 8. And I scouted for a low level hero (level 4).
in my results i lost a 56K archers. Was this because my layer of 1K troops was not enough? Or do i need a higher level compass?
I also did not send any warriors to eliminate the traps first has i read that is not needed from the original poster.
So what did i do wrong? Also, i heard that level 10 compass will increase your losses, is that true? (like the archery /hbr combos for level 5s)?
The server i used was server: 86
battle86.evony.com/default.html?logfile/20091211/22/e3/22e339ec359eec84f28cefa0156cf3e3.xml
i app any and all help as to how i can become more successful, like i said this was my first try at a level 10.
Wow! Proof that ballis really don't work (Server53)
Was an experiment after an alliance member claimed they reduced losses .... :(
You guys are forgetting to clear the traps first...
I always send 2 x 5k warriors 5 secs before the mainwave and have never lost to a npc10.
Now it might be just me but i reckon 10k warriors is cheaper AND easier to replace as 90k archers... :o
please include more info such has ur tech levels and hero's att. jsut saying u can do something and what troops isn't enouh for others to gauge things out.
but ill try the waves of warriors and see if i get diff results then losing 50K archers. (see my above post) tho if u need to do it how are people posting their results and stating they dind't need the warrior waves?
Hero 125+ (ranging from 126 to 189) I don't scout for hero inside the npc.
Spearhead - 1k warrior 1k pike 1k sword 1 cavalry 1 phract 2k transports and the rest archers. No big difference if sent from lvl 9 or lvl 10 rallypoint.
I loose about 6-9k archers per run, plus the layers and the cleaner waves.
Techs all 10 except compass.
thx for the update roads. last quesin -whats ur compass at? 9?
also i didn't send in 1 cav and 1 cat. ill make the revisions and repost (but i can't until after saturday).
I already stated 2 posts above i always use cleaners, and in my reasoning therefore never have lost a single npc10 run.
I do tend to agree on the layering, i tried pretty much all types of layers recommended here on the forums, and elsewhere on guides like Hods or the wiki and have found not much difference in losses.
I'm looking forward to see the no layers report...
So a 124 ATK hero, WITHOUT war horn, can lose only 8.7k archers if you send 2 waves of 5k warriors 3 minutes earlier than your attack? With 1k of each Layering troop? Really??? wow.
There is no need for waves camp timed to hit before your buster wave.
with a 159 attack hero, you can easily take a 5.9k loss,
and
for a 300+attack hero you can take as little as 3770 archer loss after medic camp
losing 3k layers in the wave
something a alliance member sugested was 1 of everything and 4k swordsman for layering...heres the report
battle43.evony.com/default.html?logfile/20091213/fe/18/fe18f3eadbc08cb48482f00fe16d66ac.xml
just a war hor nactive and heros atk is 186...all techs lvl 10. Would 1k scout/pike/war/sword be better then 4k sword and 1 of everything?
How about sending just rainbow troops?
Do someone has an explanation for this disaster ?
battle89.evony.com/default.html?logfile/20091213/a7/20/a720b4ab07a62a2c53e846eab95fa488.xml
NPC hero level 10.
My hero is 142 ATT. Archery/MT/IW/MED/compass are all level 10.
However, I did not send any warriors forcleaning traps before, like the first example given in this thread (I just put more layers to compensate lower ATT hero).
Loneric...To me it looks like you have too much of a rainbow. Only Send 2000 tansports for starters.
My hero is about 200 att and I send 200 Warrior, 1400 pike, 1400 swords, 2000 trans and 95k archers and usually only lose 7-8k archers without any buffs. I tried sending 1k war, 1k pike, 1k sword and lost about 18k archers. I pretty much just stick to this setup for normal farms but have been playing with different combos with the 3k suicide spots to see what works best.
Do you send a trap cleaning wave before ? Is is that you call the 3k suicide spot ?
My bad, I m lost : what can be the diffrence in your examples between sending 2800 of layers (200 w, 1400 p, 1400s) or 3000 (1k of each) for a casulaties difference of 10000 archers ? It has no sense for me. Or perhaps it means it's not good to insist on putting too many warriors as they are too slow to cover our archers ?
I started farming level 10s when my highest attack hero got to 155 attack, and this is what I do:
1. Scout for a low level hero (I usually shoot for 15 or less).
2. Send one of the following (I've tried all of these, and they all have around the same results):
95k archers, 2k trans, and either:
2800 warriors, 100 pike, 100 swords
2900 warriors, 100 pike
2900 warriors, 100 swords
You get the idea. I've done it with as little as 10 pike, and 2990 warriors, and still had the same results...I don't think it matters much what you send for these troops, since they're all gonna die anyway.
I've also tried sending scouts along because I heard it resulted in less losses, but it didn't seem to make a difference either.
3. All relevant techs are level 10, with the exception of compass, which is still level 9.
4. I almost always apply either a war horn or an ivory horn (I won 10 of those off the wheel, so I'm set for a while!)
My losses: Compass has some effect on this that I've seen plenty of arguments about on the forums. From my own personal experience, when I first started doing this, the attack level of my hero was 155, and compass was at 8. I was only losing between 6k and 7k archers pretty consistently, occasionally 8k. I upgraded to 9, and somewhere around 170 attack, I started losing more archers than I was at first. I now lose between 8 and 9k archers consistently (except once, when I did not apply a war horn, and lost about 11k which sucked). This is before healing of course. I don't know what factor affected my losses, whether it was the change in compass, or the change in my hero (though you'd think the higher his attack level gets, the LESS I'd lose, but it's Evony so who knows).
Regarding sending waves of warriors before the attacks:
I have heard, and read, that sending a few waves of warriors (3 waves of 5k I believe) immediately before the main attack will reduce archer losses. Personally I don't bother with this, because it doesn't seem to me like it reduces the losses enough to be worth the effort, but admittedly I haven't tried this method, so I could be wrong.
Sorry for the giant wall of text I've made...for those of you with shorter attention spans, here is the quick version:
1 War/Ivory horn + 150 attack hero + 95k archers + 2800 warriors/100pike/100swords + 2k transporters against a level 10 NPC with low level hero = about 8k archers lost and 19 million food gained. (Assuming all relevant techs are level 10)
I thank you both for your answers guys.
Hmm, sounds like the problem is compass. I should have waited before researching it to 10.
Assuming you do not use warhorn(which drastically reduces losses) then with compass 9 do the following
130-150 attack : 95k archers+2k transporters +1k warriors+1k pikemen+1k swordsmen (8k-11k losses)
150+ attack: 95k archers +2k transporters +3k warriors=8.5k-12k losses (hero 150-220 atk)
If you stick to the warriors method below 150 attack, this is what will happen
95k archers +2k transporters+3k warriors=20-22k losses(120 attack hero 16 rounds)
95k archers +2k transporters+3k warriors=17k losses(120-130 attack hero 16 rounds)
95k archers +2k transporters+3k warriors=16k losses(135 attack hero 15 rounds)
95k archers +2k transporters+3k warriors=13k losses(136-138 attack hero 15 rounds) 1 report
http://battlewn4.evony.com/default.html?logfile/20091220/ba/1c/ba1c4295812a35c5f7721500e13e2350.xml
http://battlewn4.evony.com/default.html?logfile/20091220/ff/3d/ff3db803381cc8c73ccd457c78839575.xml
http://battlewn4.evony.com/default.html?logfile/20091221/79/8c/798c9e5e47040b0deb2b40237e20c044.xml
nice, moshpit ... do you use any items (warhorn, etc)?
this combo works for a 150 attack but you have to prescout before attacking
try finding a lvl 1-10
battle3.evony.com/default.html?logfile/20091223/33/db/33dbfb7a3ee6cdb33e769237ff6beda5.xml
i didn't use any item
i tried your setup with lesser archers and i didn't prescout it too, worked well too :)
and no item was used
battlewn4.evony.com/default.html?logfile/20091225/0b/e5/0be525424347b9fca69b61d1c3173dc4.xml
they are eventually going to stop high lvl npc farming milk it while it lasts and i have better tactics to gain food depending on your productiom
^LOL they wont, last time they did, alot of people quit.
Is it a hero with 150+ attack, or a lvl 150 hero with lots of attack?
Those are completely worthless answers because you forget to say what's your level of COMPASS, the main and essential thing.
very thorough thank you for your advice on this