A message from Milonius

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08-19-2009, 11:11 PM
FoxyBunny

A message from Milonius

Milo is unable to post himself at the moment, but he asked me to pass along this message to you all.

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Dear Members of the OTD,

I'm afraid I might not be coming back. Earlier today, I received a permanent ban for what I said to Lyla a couple days back. This is my public apology in the case that I don't return.

To Lyla, I'm extremely sorry for what I said to you. The conversation we had made me really question if I should be in the Christians of Evony social group. I was posting away on the forums, trolling you, all the while not considering what I was doing. I know now that I did the wrong thing by starting an argument and insulting you. I shouldn't have judged you by your appearance or called you a prep. You deserve an apology, but I can understand if you won't forgive me. I don't deserve to be forgiven after what I did.

To Off-Topic Discussion, I'm sure you're all ashamed of me, and you have a right to feel that way. My actions hurt the reputation of the community. I got a thread locked, and my posts made a newcomer consider leaving the forums forever. For a short while, my contributions to the argument in the Photos thread made the Off-Topic Discussion seem like a haven for spammers and trolls. It seems miraculous that Lyla came back.

To both Lyla and the community, I'm sorry. This may be my last goodbye to you all if the permanent ban isn't lifted. I'm in the process of trying to get it lifted. However, I'm guilty as charged and the chances of it actually getting reversed are slim. Please don't discuss my ban on the forums, it will only make things worse and cause trouble. I can be contacted via Skype.

You may now throw your tomatoes at me.

Milonius"
08-19-2009, 11:15 PM
revo of troy

sorry milo that ya went away ....i leave the forums for a few days and all shoozna breaks loose dang
08-19-2009, 11:18 PM
abracax

It was very big of Milonius to get out an apology however he could. I have renewed respect for Milonius and I hope after all this, he can get his permaban reversed.
08-19-2009, 11:31 PM
ABakker

I agree, and I wish that I was paying more attention to that when it was going on so that I could have perhaps steped in. I'm glad he did apologize though even if it is the last thing we hear from him on the forums for.
08-19-2009, 11:32 PM
wpack10

It surprised me that Milo was involved in this. He had always been a troll/Spammer, but he knew that somethings were off limits. Just goes to show that even the best at what they do mess up sometimes. I am vert glad he got this out, and will consider him a friend as i always have.
08-19-2009, 11:33 PM
Wildor

I will defer to the judgement of those who actually witnessed the goings on of that day, but I personally am not one to forgive the unforgivable. And, after seeing the initial reaction to this, I wonder...
08-19-2009, 11:34 PM
Lord Arumen

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Originally Posted by ABakker

I agree, and I wish that I was paying more attention to that when it was going on so that I could have perhaps steped in. I'm glad he did apologize though even if it is the last thing we hear from him on the forums for.

I know what you mean Abbs. I dont like my photos, so I do not look at the photo thread. If I had, who knows... I am pretty reasonable.
08-19-2009, 11:35 PM
ABakker

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Originally Posted by wpack10

It surprised me that Milo was involved in this. He had always been a troll/Spammer, but he knew that somethings were off limits. Just goes to show that even the best at what they do mess up sometimes. I am vert glad he got this out, and will consider him a friend as i always have.

I know I messed up a couple days ago. I think everyone should wipe the 17th from their memory. Its was a bad day for these forums.
08-19-2009, 11:37 PM
CandleLite

i was there. and he retains my good oppnion, while others...

he asked us not to talk about his banning. perhapes this thread ought to be closed to prevent that??
08-19-2009, 11:43 PM
FoxyBunny

I would hope everyone could have the restraint needed to say what they choose to say to Milo (since he can read but not post) without discussing his banning.
08-19-2009, 11:44 PM
ABakker

I'm really not able to comment on the event. I never saw what occured. And apologizing doesn't work for me :(. I fail at it. You know what, I fail at alot of things.
08-20-2009, 12:06 AM
ArgentJedi

Quote:

Originally Posted by ABakker

I know I messed up a couple days ago. I think everyone should wipe the 17th from their memory. Its was a bad day for these forums.

I don't think that is such a good idea, Abakker... that would be unfair to Lyla, and to the forum in my opinion... you can't simply wipe away the bad things just cuz you don't like them. That is life... we are forced to live with things we regret... if we didn't have to, we as individuals as well as a community, would never be worthy of having someone like Lyla involved in our lives.

While that may have sounded corny and cheesey... each and every single one of us is involved in one anothers lives through our conversations and discussions in these forums, just as much so as if we were doing it in person at a friends house. Every time you speak here, your words touch the people that read them... further "proof" if you will, of how we are involved in each others lives as a community.

Let's not forget that day... but remember what happened, and make sure that each and every single one of us makes an effort to never be apart of something like it, or let it happen again.

To Milo: While I haven't known you long, or very well at all... I really do mean this:

Regardless of what happens to your account... I think the extra effort that you made to make sure that you apologized to Lyla and the OTD forum shows a lot of character. It doesn't undo what was done, but it has definitely earned you a bit of respect from those that know you well, and from those of us that don't and perhaps judged you based on just those actions alone. You've redeemed yourself a good bit in my eyes, whether you care about that or not, and it does mean a great deal to me, to see that you've gone to the extra effort to apologize. :)
08-20-2009, 12:10 AM
ABakker

ok lol. It was just an interesting day, thats for sure lol. And yes, it wouldn't be fair to Lyla. Again though, I don't know what exactly happened there (and I probably shouldn't know) but it was a bad day lol.
08-20-2009, 01:37 AM
Boleslav

It's worth considering that Milonius and the others posted what they did because they thought that was appropriate and they thought they would get away with it. As players, what are we posting in the forums that allowed them to assume that? As moderators, what actions or inactions led them to think they would get away with it?

That thread was an inferno which none of us escaped without getting burned. I for one am absolutely horrified that two more threads have been created - a sexy guys and a sexy girls thread - which have exactly the same potential to go wrong as the photos thread.
08-20-2009, 06:50 AM
drizztix

bah everyone makes mistakes

he is a lil tardling though..
but atleast he appolgized
08-20-2009, 07:12 AM
woody513

Well at least he apologized...
08-20-2009, 09:29 AM
whiterosedreams

His message is worth forgiving. I'd say that he's very sorry and should be welcomed back. :)
08-20-2009, 11:34 AM
Valkirah

Do not derail this thread into personal bickering or I will start handing out suspensions like lighters at a rock concert.

Mike
08-20-2009, 11:38 AM
trogdor1316

Quote:

Originally Posted by ABakker

I know I messed up a couple days ago. I think everyone should wipe the 17th from their memory. Its was a bad day for these forums.

The 17th...the third wave.
08-20-2009, 12:00 PM
lyla

Foxybunny please tell him that I forgive him, and alls forgotten. All the mean things that he said to me are in the past. And honestly, I'd rather not relive this all the time lol.
08-20-2009, 12:02 PM
Valkirah

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Originally Posted by lyla

Foxybunny please tell him that I forgive him, and alls forgotten. All the mean things that he said to me are in the past. And honestly, I'd rather not relive this all the time lol.

And with that... thread closed.

Mike