jeez
To: Evony
how bout give us EVENT thats totally FREE...
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jeez
To: Evony
how bout give us EVENT thats totally FREE...
Aye, tehre are plenty of ways to get around VM, but the end result is that someone's not gunna be happy and someone else is still gunna find a way to abuse it.
No matter what anyone can come up with, someone can abuse it. That's why I reckon it's better to jus' not have it at all...can't abuse somethin' that's not there.
They're solution is to add a pricetag onto it? Ok...fair enough, not many people are gunna abuse it, but people with a lot of money to spare definitely can. I mean, who needs a 30m upkeep hasslin' them on their weekend off when they can destroy someone nearby and raid a billion food then slap on VM for the weekend and not have to worry about a 30m upkeep?
There are obviously more people for VM than against, so what am I meant to say? It's been implemented, even if it's not with conditions that you like. I don't mind because I don't see it bein' too heavily abused, but it's kinda unfair on the folk who won't abuse it and don't want to put money into the game.
I have no life because I expect people to abuse somethin' that people abuse?
How does that one work?
Evony Free Forever
(As long as you play forever)
well to all you guys it not compulsory right? if you have enough troops to defend why put VM?
I think they missed something. Everything locks down EXCEPT valleys.
Search for people on vacation mode.
Snipe all valleys away from them.
I think they need to add a lock to the valleys your own if someone is going to "pay" for this vacation service.
Darkbrady:
OK, we get it, you won't use Vacation Mode. Got it everyone?
DARKBRADY WON'T USE VACATION MODE.
Let people discuss their problems. No one cares that you like this. You don't need to defend Evony at every turn.
This thread has nothing to do with you. Go away. It's not about you. Stop putting yourself in the way of another conversation.
Now move on.
what is with them talk about money grabbing, this is just the last straw for me..... I WILL NOT BUY ANYMORE COINS, NO NOTHING, NO OFFERS, NOTHING, READ MY LIPS! NOTHING. this is just plain stupid.
Let me spin that around and show you how ridiculous that looks.
I see a lot more people slatin' VM than sayin' they agree with it. Does that mean that I shouldtell all of you to go away jus' becasue you don't agree?
It's a discussion; there are two (or more) sides to it. Jus' because you don't agree doesn't give you the right to start bein' rude about it. Jus' accept that some people are happy and some people aren't. End.
No one asked for your latest Evony PR comment.
Why do you keep flaming people's threads?
IF YOU DON'T AGREE WITH THE THREAD, DON'T GET INVOLVED.
Why can't you understand this simple concept?!?
So basically...you want threads to be a one-sided discussion and hate thread?
What if I made a "VM mode is absolutely awesome; go Evony! You rock" thread?
Should that be free of anyone who disagrees? Anyone who has a different opinion should be expelled from that thread, yeah?
Get the idea that this is a discussion. The entire point is that people will disagree and get involved. That's life. It's a pretty simple concept. Not everyone will agree with you, but that's what builds the discussion. Two epople with different views discuss the issue rationally and intelligently, or two people team together and troll the whole thread?
And...I've been flamin'? Where? o.o
I'm not going to tell you that you should like how this is being done, but I would like to point out a few things:
1) The current way of taking a vacation is to open your gates, ask your alliance mates to watch your cities for attacks, garrison some troops in your cities for protection, set tax rate to 0%, and cross your fingers. This still exists and you are welcome to use it. Nothing there has been nerfed.
2) Should you want to take an extra step, you can basically shutter up your account (same way as you would your house for vacation...turn off the lights, close the windows, make sure all pets are inside, etc.) and pay $1/day to have it guaranteed protected from all attacks.
3) You can use coins won, coins gathered via iEvony referrals, coins given to you in contests, etc. There are actually a fair number of ways to get coins without spending a cent of your own money. I also think Evony might be amenable to a request from the players for some kind of item on the Wheel that would enable you to use vacation mode for free for a certain period of time. That might be something to discuss.
4) As darkbrady said, vacation mode is abused in a number of other games I've played. I always said it should have some elements that discourage its casual use to avoid retaliation from attacks. For example, there are games where you can drop into vacation mode for free, at the drop of a hat, and unlock in just 6 hours, and do that as often as you want. People use it to plunder all day then sleep soundly without fear of revenge. Not fair. Here at least you get stuck in it for 2 days minimum and you don't get to build or produce during that time.
Is this perfect? Maybe not. But I think that it's got some great ideas incorporated into it, and it isn't as if it couldn't be improved upon. Maybe the players would like to stop screaming about how terrible it is and offer some suggestions on improvements? A well-constructed and logical argument would be considered, I have no doubt. So let's hear your ideas: what do you like about this? What do you hate? How would you change it?
Solutions are given. Other things is they are going to listen to it.Quote:
24 hour cool down from an attack you sent.
No research
No troop production
No reinforcing troops
No research
Total freeze of the account 0 resource production.
And if you choose vacation time you can't log back to your account in 7 days. So this will deter any abusers from abusing the system. Because waiting 7 days to get back online will prevent any abuse.
And to prevent people from leaving the game for months to come back Unfreeze it in 10 days.
Also I dont know where you get we can gain money from the wheel because its one of the most rare events ever. Also the wheel is designed as follows
The younger your account is the more cool stuff you get so you get hooked with the game. As time progreses and your account needs these items more the stuff you get is cheaper and worthless. 12 days in a row receiving resources only.
Ok so the title is probably askin' for Foxy to give me the hairy eye, but this isn't jus' to cause trouble.
There are about a dozen threads already on how terrible and horrible the VM is and how money-grubbin' and greedy Evony are for it.
I think they did went for a triple effect:
Give people VM that they have been beggin' for
Give VM-opposers the reasurance that it won't be easily abused
A potential profit margin
Ok, so we all accept the third point, that isn't what this is about.
Obviously any yay-sayin' won't be tolerated on the other threads, so I jus' wanna ask...is there anyone else who actually thinks that this was done well, or doesn't hate it, or is otherwise ok with it's implementation as it is?
I mean, obviously it could use some fixin' but for the game's first VM I'm pretty surprised with it. Cents price aside, they at least had the sense to set a 2 day increment onto it and the restrictions in place (no buildin' or researches can be done) and ofc; pre-existin' attacks will still go through. People won't jus' caugh up 20 cents and go occupy themselves for two days jus' to cancel a 125k raam attack.
Am I the only one?
No one's allowed to disagree!
I kid, I kid..:rolleyes:
I did NOT delete your post, nor did I put a "smilie" anywhere in it. And if you had looked at your post, you could see that it was me who had edited it...that tags automatically.
All I did was rename the thread so people would know this was a merged thread, and I added an arrow so other mods would know which thread to merge others into.
I am sorry this offended you so badly. I'll go grab some older random post from somewhere, rename THAT and merge your thread into that one so you can title your post back to whatever you please. But I need to name this thread appropriately, and I am going to find a way to do so.
There we go. EduLeics, please feel free to edit your post title back to whatever you please. I've headed the thread with another person's post.
I've stood behind you guys and your game from the beginning and I've said that no, you're not out just to make money. But this feature has proven me wrong. You finally go and give the players what they want by adding vacation mode and then make people pay to use it. This really doesn't make any sense at all. With the opening of another game yesterday, that I won't mention here, you guys really need to find a way to keep your players because with the "pay to use" theory behind this new feature, even I'm considering quitting now. Honestly, you guys have lost any respect I may have had for you.
If I read that correctly for 2 weeks you pay $140.00 USD.
Kind of high for Free forever game.
for that kind of money i can have an upgraded hotel room and spa and etc..
and maybe even one heck of a hangover!~
and start over if i ever come back, which i doubt.
People are leaving this game every day because of this issue and making people pay for it is not going to help. Its just plain greed on Evony's part.
Perhaps Evony should take the loyalty of its players a bit more seriously, without them they game will die and they won't make any money. If they want to shoot themselves in the foot, fine....they are not the only 'free' game out there, and there are other games that are a lot more balanced than Evony.
See, I thought that just adding this feature would be bad because it would be abused. But, with the restrictions that they put on it, I don't think that it would be. So, adding a cost to it doesn't prevent it from being abused, it just shows their greed. However, it does show that they care about their players, but only if they're spending money on the game.
Brady because you spend money on the game? Maybe those who spend money get a better reel of the wheel.
I can tell you I know many people specially old members. Who only get resources these days. No penicilin no war horns nada. Been on server 9 since day one when it opened back in may.
And Also you dont have to know to infer. Looking at the drop rate you can make your own conclusions. Make a new account in another server and see the item drop difference.
I would be pro vacation mode if no need to pay for ot, or at least pay a quantity (no too abusive) at begin of it
If you plain pit 10 cents per day to no abuse of it, I could recomend a coldown, similar to 12 hours after truce
This coldown would be 2 days per 1 day of vacation mode
Example if you taken 5 days of vacation mode, after finish it, must wait 10 days to reactivate vacation mode
If you can't pay to use it, get a job :)
This game is shockingly bad. I haven't been playing long, but when I first joined I thought yeh, cool, not too bad, obviously they need to make a bit of money keeping the servers up and what not just like any other game, but then to do this? Going on holiday means spending money as it is... Then having to pay even more money for VM when you could be playing any other game...Like Tribal Wars for example :) For free! They are just money grabbing little kids :) Plain an simple.
I even sent them a message about a problem I had on the group thing, yet no reply.... How can they expect people to pay them ANYTHING when you get no results from them?
I think the "new servers have bad droprates" argument is entirely moot. There's not only nothin' stoppin' you comin' to an old server where there are better droprates, but we want more people to come to the older servers and make it more active and crowded.
I don't spend money. I barely even play. I jus' do my experiments, tests, farm things, suicide my troops against my gf to try out new findin's.
I'm waitin' on Age II before I get more involved again. I spend more time on the forums than ingame. I have Prinz, I have plenty of Ivory Horns, Corselets and Penicillin and mich scripts from the wheel and NPC10 raids and I don't use world chat...I have no reason to spend money.
To test this, I jus' rolled my 6 amulets (I let them build up for a week or two...rollin' one every day depresses me when I get bad stuff, so I roll a dozen every week or two)
However much Gold
Ivory Horn x 10
Corselet x 1
Anabasis x 1
Dynamite x 1
Junior Battallion x 1
Not bad. Only one resource in a weeks worth of amulets and enough gear to sort me for the next week or so.
How did we get onto a tangent about amulets?
I was in another big discussion thread and have totally lost track of this one..jus' saw your post directed at me...
Yeah right. You can't even compete on the older servers with even 300K prestige, what makes you think someone just starting will have any chance. With the majority of the server well over 1 mil, people will login see the rankings and what people have and will either quit right away, or will do so when they get attacked for the first time directly after they're out of BP.