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You can't dismiss all things, not saying the spreading and retelling of the story isn't the origin. Just saying you always have to look at every possibility until you can narrow it down to what is most likely fact.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lord Arumen
True I suppose. But I am sure the base comes from seeing creatures in real life and being afraid, then combining themQuote:
Originally Posted by abracax
Personally, I think Chimeras represented fear to the ancient Greeks.. There's no wrong opinion, but it's just that feeling I get when I think of a chimera. Prove me wrong, I welcome it :p But please don't flame me, it's an opinion.
can you genitly add those creatures in that way? in all the depictions i've seen they retain quite a bit of their organla forms. which is how i came up with my idea
I'm on too many threads typin' long posts atm. by the time I'd typed and submitted that one I missed both of your posts (candle and abra).
Arumen: if someone went around tellin' the story for money, he'd still surely have to get the inspiration from somewhere. Turnin' a dragon into a winged fire-breather is one thing, but creatin' a multitude of creatures into one hybrid is another altogether. It's about the earliest hybrid I can think of too, so it's not as if there was a lot of hybdridisation stories goin' around to inspire him.
Candle: I like that idea enough. Could be their idea of fightin' on many fronts; especially in such a war-tested period for them. But still leads to the questions; why did they pick out a metaphor of a great hybridised beast? Why those animals? Purely because of the challenge and fear?
Kalet: pretty much the same as above; if it's a fear thing, why did they pick that beast? Jus' because someone thought up a multitude of frightenin' beasts and usedthem as a metaphorical means to amplify their fear of death(?), monsters, enemies into a real world plain?
Abra: genetically producin' a monster, although I believe a good concept, I don't see it as bein' the likely issue. Unless some scientest who'd advanced far beyond their years in technology into micro-genetics and managed to perfectly imbue a genetic hybrid, why would he pick animals that would be so dangerous on their own, w/o providn' flight, venom and hooves to them? Hatred of all thigs around him?
Rodri: Interestin' that the old image contains only the goat and lion, no mention of the eagle or snake. Perhaps it is as suggested by Candle/Kalent and Arumen: a frightenin' image of somethin' that evolved through storytellin'?
Or maybe even back then everyone know that if it's a female it's gunna kill you at some point in your life :p
Tell me, are you saying there is no such thing as creativity? I created Heights, I didn't borrow the ideas.Quote:
Arumen: if someone went around tellin' the story for money, he'd still surely have to get the inspiration from somewhere. Turnin' a dragon into a winged fire-breather is one thing, but creatin' a multitude of creatures into one hybrid is another altogether. It's about the earliest hybrid I can think of too, so it's not as if there was a lot of hybdridisation stories goin' around to inspire him.
RWL @ that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Darkbrady
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Originally Posted by Darkbrady
Ancient Egyptians performed brain surgery, they had a high success rate and the patients lived a long life. We only started having positive success rates in brain surgery in the past 10-15yrs.
Ancient Greece had steam engines in temples to move statues and other objects to make a sort of divine environment. They even had small steam engine cars about the size of a toy train engine.
These are just two examples of knowledge it took us over two thousand years to learn all over again, so you can't dismiss other possibilities of knowledge. As far as why if they could? That is a simple one, had to be a man. We do things just because we can lol
Also, I was wondering about this, what do you think, how all these creatures look so dangerous and so fierce.. Do you think it reflects on the inner nature of human beings? I know people have gone into this, but do you really think our inner nature, of the purest form, is like what the descriptions of the creatures tell you?
You may not have stolen ideas; but you get inspired.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lord Arumen
Nowadasy creativity comes easily because there's so many people and ideas are so easily shared; there are so many stories and legends. Inspiration comes easier.
Thousands of years ago when there were about 5 billion less people, no internet and no stories that stretched back more than a hundred and fifty years, jus' usin' your imagination was tricky; and still led onto the issue of everythin' bein' based on what you saw around you. Comin' up w/ somethin' totally original was hard to do. As I already said, back then these werenae jus' bedtime stories; these were real life. This was their history and facts. They actually lived this...or at least believed they did.
Even so, I'm not dismissin' any ideas, here...who am I to do that? I'm jus' bein' devil's advocate..no matter what you say I'm gunna debate it and pull out as many questions as I can. It's all in the name of interest, science and curiosity.
(edit@abra: that last line is pretty much my response to your post that I missed there)