Slow down with that paintbrush
Quote:
Originally Posted by
MichDry
and everyone on any establishd server who is a major player, is cheating, you've ruined the game and imho have the play ability of a 9yo who steals money/realestate in the monopoly game or uses cheat codes on video games. While you can wreck anyone who isn't as big a cheater as you, your tactics usually suck and the main reason you've learned combo's of what to send is because you have so many troops it doesn't matter what you make and waste. Something you'd never have been able to learn by playing evony by it's rules. Do I hold the players accountable for cheating? No, they wanna play the game and "win" and if the only way to win is to cheat more then the next guy then you do what you gotta do.
Stating "everyone" is quite offensive. The most "cheating" I have done is I spent money and got the best deal that they had, the 15-week Premium Rewards. You can call that "cheating" if you wish, but it isn't. It wasn't the brightest thing I've done either, but it is what it is. I had the option. As for farming, I do that by doing all of the mouse clicking manually, no bots, no tools that could be used for screen macros, nothing. Just me, myself, and I.
Quote:
High Heroes. Either make all heroes max out to 200 in each ability or the following
Buy a hero for $10 per 100 levels up to 300, plus an additional 100 levels per 6mos age of server. Have the hero be marked special so you may only have 1such hero per account.
So, in your fit of jealousy, you want to punish people who may have actually sat here for many hours and did all the attacking to get higher level heroes too? You're mad because you "don't have the time", so those that do should be punished?
Quote:
Only other way to get another 300+ hero should be to raise them normally from scratch
Wait, you just said that heroes should be capped at 200, so you could not "raise them normally from scratch" to 300, could you?
Quote:
This allows a casual player to now learn how to farm lv10's too and gives him/her the chance to at least defend decently
Ah. Here is your real complaint. You got hit by a bully. I'm sorry that happened, but not everyone who has several 250+ attack heroes is a bully, just like they are also not all "cheaters".
Quote:
Lastly we return to number 3. Can you really call yourself uber if you use cheats and/or exploits? There isn't a single person on an establish server who can say they are in the top % of their server's players who doesn't cheat/exploit some how.
I can, and your accusations otherwise make me tune out the rest of your post, even though you may have valid concerns in regards to people who indeed are cheating.
You need to knock off the rehtoric and realize that SOME, not ALL, people cheat. Those that do cheat need to be dealt with. Paying money is *NOT* a cheat. The Premium Rewards thing was a ridiculously fantastic deal. In the middle of people complaining on here about how they were "ripped off" or whatever because they didn't get what they bought, I got a drop of Evony cents into my game account at the same time of the day on the same day of the week for 15 straight weeks, and exactly the amount that the agreement said I would get. If you did not take advantage of it when you could've, sorry. If you could not financially afford it or did not want to spend money, I understand that, but it does not give you the right to call someone a cheater, nor does it make your ideas valid. Again, I'm sorry you were bullied, but not everyone at the top of the stats for each server is a bully.
careful with your paintbrush too
Quote:
Originally Posted by
TentPig
It is my personal opinion that all the top-level players "cheat"... The top-level players all have armies that number into the millions (maybe even 10's of millions), and I see no viable way within Evony for some of these players to maintain the army sizes they do without cheating.
I do not see how NPC farming lvl 10 NPCs is viable -- even with a 260 ATK hero I see army losses which, in order to regenerate those loses you need more resources than you gather from the farming activity itself.
The problem here is you appear to either be only looking at the food/iron/lumber gained and ignoring the gold, or ignoring that lvl 5 attacks can be done by only expending food for the march...
Basically, what you think is "cheating" works like this:
1) Farm multiple lvl 5s to get food, lumber, iron, and gold.
2) Farm lvl 10s to get food and experience to level up heroes, as well as gold.
3) Watch the market for good times to use the gold to buy lumber and iron.
4) Use acquired lumber and iron to assist building more.
What also helps is if you happen to be in a peaceful area, as you can just do steps 1-4 above over and over and over.
People can go on and on about how the game was "not supposed to be that way", but you have to make a decision about if you're going to whine about it or do what others do so as to be able to have the larger army for defensive purposes.
That said, what I see are people who are at the top and did get there legitimately simply become "bored" after a period of time, so either they flat out quit or they turn into roaming attack cities by using teleporters. That ends up making them so that they appear to be "bullies" or "cheaters", spawning threads like this one.
Lastly, it's always "cool" to rage against someone at the top. People do it all the time. Classic example as for a person and a company is Bill Gates and Microsoft. Whether or not he/they deserve the amount of anger that gets aimed at them isn't the point. It's the point that a large portion of society gets jealous enough to where they want to punish success.
Run The Numbers or stop posting
neko, what do you smoke? I'm saying botting is illegal and farming 10's is an exploit. How does botting require "more time" it's a time saver that's why people do it.
As for I can't prove this or that? Yes you can. Simply put it's IMPOSSIBLE for 1 person to farm lvl 5's in the manor which botters can. How do I know? I do play a lot and I play with 2 people who play a lot and combined we can't get the resources a botter gets. THAT'S COMBINED. That's 27 cities instead of 10 with 270 vallies instead of 100, that's combined farm times totalling more then 24 hours a day. Simply put it's inhuman to get billions of resources while maintaining an army over 10 million with out either botting, having a bunch of people/alts feed you countless resources, or farming 10's. So almighty neko and pig give me the numbers you use to aquire resources without cheating or exploiting the game to have a standing army of 10 million (7mil of archers) and billions of each resource. Show me the numbers.
To the rest who read this. I have over 1.3 mil prestiege and in 1 of the oldest alliances on server 9. I want a healthy evony so my fun increases, however there are many who like an unhealthy evony, like bugs feeding on a plant until they sicken forceing it to die and then moving onto another plant. As for a handful doing it? You can't be a top 20 ATTACK alliance (that means you port into other states and destroy a major alliance and port out) on an established server with out a core of such players. So either evony should put controls in to limit these players or evony should add more features to make resources meaningless and allow players with armies in the 10's oif millions. The more monty haul you get the harder it is to balance a game, any old pen and paper GM can tell you that.