The perfect tax rate!!!!!

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12-17-2009, 12:00 PM
deanJ

The perfect tax rate!!!!!

many of ya have heard about the '50% tax rate trick'. this trick is to be applied when offline. but ever thought what was the reason this is considered the most effective tax rate. i'll tell ya why!!!!!

Note: This trick is to be applied by people having shortage of gold. for applying this trick ya need to remeber that at least half of your population is idle otherwise it will slow down the city's growth.

here's the concept.......
gold propotional to tax rate propotional to loyalty propotional to population.

all these elements are inter-linked to each in such a way that even if one of the is disturbed it will effect the entire system as a whole.......

gold-tax rate link: the gold tax rate system is a process through which gold can be attained. it is a very direct system because tax rate determies the amount of gold, more the tax rate more the gold.

tax rate-loyalty link: this determines the loyalty of the city. tax rate and loyalty are highly interlinked because tax rate and loyalty comes in perfect numbers or e.g if tax rate is 20% then loyalty will reduce by 20 i.e 80.

loyalty-population link: this is one of the most unknown links in the game. the loyalty of the city determines the population of the city propotional to the population limit for e.g if the loyalty is 80 and the population limit is 1000 the population will at maximum will only touch 80% of the population limit i.e 800.

population-gold link: the most indirect link in the game is the population-gold link. this link determines that higher the population higher the gold collected for eg. if the population limit is 1000 considering loyalty as 80 and tax rate as 20% gold collected will be 160.

(Formula for population: 1000 X 80/100 = population = 800)
(Formula for finding gold: 800 X 20/100 = gold = 160)

Now, since you've got the concept right i'll tell you why the '50% tax rate' is the perfect tax rate........
here's how i'm going to calculate:
100 is the population
10% is the tax rate
now since ya know tax rate affects loyalty,
loyalty is 90
now since ya know loyalty affects population,
population is 90,
now apply the tax rate to this value,
therefore, gold collected is 9.

now lets consider population 100, tax rate varies, loyalty varies and gold collected is the result.

population: 100
tax rate: 0%
loyalty: 100
revised population: 100
gold/hour: 0

population: 100
tax rate: 10%
loyalty: 90
revised population: 90
gold/hour: 9

population: 100
tax rate: 20%
loyalty: 80
revised population: 80
gold/hour: 16

population: 100
tax rate: 30%
loyalty: 70
revised population: 70
gold/hour: 21

population: 100
tax rate: 40%
loyalty: 60
revised population: 60
gold/hour: 24

population: 100
tax rate: 50%
loyalty: 50
revised population: 50
gold/hour: 25

population: 100
tax rate: 60%
loyalty: 40
revised population: 40
gold/hour: 24

so now that ya see why 50% tax rate is the most efficient tax rate, anything below 50% yields low gold and anything above 50% yields low gold.......
12-17-2009, 12:09 PM
finalEby

WOW! thats a lot of info. i keep my tax rate at zero
12-17-2009, 12:45 PM
lordgarzhad

And in the end, ultimately, tax rate means nothing, when you can make 500mil gold per day per city selling excess resources.
12-18-2009, 02:12 AM
Temptress

Quote:

Note: This trick is to be applied by people having shortage of gold.

Don't be mean guys, he obviously states that this is for people who are low on gold.

however, 50% tax rate has been proven already...(somewhere on the forum haha) nice info though

and I also keep my tax rate at 0% haha =D
12-18-2009, 02:19 AM
Exist

Good post

I think this is a very good post and if indeed are low on resourses then this is a good way to set tax rates he clearly says that in his post so everyone that is say sell resources sure that works when the market prices are high but in the beginning they are low VERY low and better to keep and use to build and npc farming is aswell out of the question at the begining for the lack of any decent farming army unless you are warrior farming 1s and 2s even then not entirely worth the effort so this is a good post and will help alot of people
12-21-2009, 04:57 AM
Scharla

The most effective tax rate is 0 or 100.

0% is to be used most of the time, as it means that the attacked needs to spend a couple extra attacks to cap your city, giving you more time to come online or for your alliance to reinforce.

If you are, for whatever reason, low on gold, u can TEMPORARILY change your tax rate to 100% to survive the emergency. Only do this if you absolutely need the gold to sell in market/avoid losing heroes/pray.

Your gold, if needed, comes from npcs, you should be perfectly capable of farming lvl3-4 (possibly 5) npcs by the time you're out of beginner's protection.

Having 50% (and similar) tax rates while offlline is an excellent way to wake up with one city less one day.
12-27-2009, 01:21 AM
Paularious

Can someone explain why collecting taxes while off line will result in a lost city.
12-28-2009, 12:29 PM
Hercilio Lopes

Quote:

many of ya have heard about the '50% tax rate trick'. this trick is to be applied when offline. but ever thought what was the reason this is considered the most effective tax rate. i'll tell ya why!!!!!

Note: This trick is to be applied by people having shortage of gold. for applying this trick ya need to remeber that at least half of your population is idle otherwise it will slow down the city's growth.

here's the concept.......
gold propotional to tax rate propotional to loyalty propotional to population.

all these elements are inter-linked to each in such a way that even if one of the is disturbed it will effect the entire system as a whole.......

gold-tax rate link: the gold tax rate system is a process through which gold can be attained. it is a very direct system because tax rate determies the amount of gold, more the tax rate more the gold.

tax rate-loyalty link: this determines the loyalty of the city. tax rate and loyalty are highly interlinked because tax rate and loyalty comes in perfect numbers or e.g if tax rate is 20% then loyalty will reduce by 20 i.e 80.

loyalty-population link: this is one of the most unknown links in the game. the loyalty of the city determines the population of the city propotional to the population limit for e.g if the loyalty is 80 and the population limit is 1000 the population will at maximum will only touch 80% of the population limit i.e 800.

population-gold link: the most indirect link in the game is the population-gold link. this link determines that higher the population higher the gold collected for eg. if the population limit is 1000 considering loyalty as 80 and tax rate as 20% gold collected will be 160.

(Formula for population: 1000 X 80/100 = population = 800)
(Formula for finding gold: 800 X 20/100 = gold = 160)

Now, since you've got the concept right i'll tell you why the '50% tax rate' is the perfect tax rate........
here's how i'm going to calculate:
100 is the population
10% is the tax rate
now since ya know tax rate affects loyalty,
loyalty is 90
now since ya know loyalty affects population,
population is 90,
now apply the tax rate to this value,
therefore, gold collected is 9.

now lets consider population 100, tax rate varies, loyalty varies and gold collected is the result.

population: 100
tax rate: 0%
loyalty: 100
revised population: 100
gold/hour: 0

population: 100
tax rate: 10%
loyalty: 90
revised population: 90
gold/hour: 9

population: 100
tax rate: 20%
loyalty: 80
revised population: 80
gold/hour: 16

population: 100
tax rate: 30%
loyalty: 70
revised population: 70
gold/hour: 21

population: 100
tax rate: 40%
loyalty: 60
revised population: 60
gold/hour: 24

population: 100
tax rate: 50%
loyalty: 50
revised population: 50
gold/hour: 25

population: 100
tax rate: 60%
loyalty: 40
revised population: 40
gold/hour: 24

so now that ya see why 50% tax rate is the most efficient tax rate, anything below 50% yields low gold and anything above 50% yields low gold.......

Flawless.

Clap.
12-28-2009, 02:21 PM
shadowfire omega

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paularious

Can someone explain why collecting taxes while off line will result in a lost city.

Having a high tax rate lowers the loyalty, having lower loyalty is less work to drive the loyalty down, thus making it that much easier to take the loyalty to 0.
12-28-2009, 02:21 PM
wootha

meh nice info
oh and the tax rate 0? i stopped doing that earlier this week... lost my 250+ att heroes cus of it *_*
12-29-2009, 08:22 AM
jdwang94

Nice info using math.. but i still love my tax rate at 0, harder for the enemy to take my city as opposed to 50.
12-30-2009, 06:55 AM
Kobajagi

If you farm NPC-s or just sell resources,you dont need tax rate att all,mine is on 0 always,keeps loyalty on 100,why should i even boder to make,what,500k or even a million gold per day from taxes,if i can get 500 mill a day from npc.Ok,i have to say,taxrate is usefull when you just started playing and have no means of attacking NPC and you need everything you produce for building.But later on its useless.
12-30-2009, 10:13 AM
RageQuit

Quote:

Originally Posted by lordgarzhad

And in the end, ultimately, tax rate means nothing, when you can make 500mil gold per day per city selling excess resources.

Nuff said.
12-30-2009, 03:13 PM
greyking

mine is 0 always i prefer the loy to be at 100 over some tiny amount of gold i would make over night and if you cant afford to set your taxes to 0 for fear of losing hero's farm more its not hard to make a ton of gold in one day its harder to retake your city if some one comes along at night and takes it because loy was only 50
12-30-2009, 05:55 PM
DemonAngel

If you're online and need gold, put it at 100.
If you're offline and need gold, use this.
If you can farm NPC's now, put it at 0.
02-09-2010, 02:09 AM
ForceMagic

Hello,

This is a nice thread but I disagree with deanJ in one point. Yes, mathematically his formula would give you the best $ rate BUT !

As it was said before by lordgarzhad, Ressources is Money also :) it's why you NEVER should let your population go Under the Labour Force Required to have a 100% ressources productivity.

To maximise everything, here is the formula.

X = Labour_Force_Required /Pop_Limit <--- Where X = Loyalty level and (1 - X) = Tax Rate

And according to deanJ data, (1 - X) >= 50%
;)
02-09-2010, 02:39 AM
-Plisken-

Quote:

Originally Posted by shadowfire omega

Having a high tax rate lowers the loyalty, having lower loyalty is less work to drive the loyalty down, thus making it that much easier to take the loyalty to 0.

Very true, but AT THE BEGINNING you have only 1 city so having low loyalty will not hurt even if you are on a more developed server, most people won't waste the food to 0 loy a nooblet city, not enough res there to bother with it
02-09-2010, 02:54 AM
superb

Quote:

Originally Posted by lordgarzhad

And in the end, ultimately, tax rate means nothing, when you can make 500mil gold per day per city selling excess resources.

Agree, and this trick is not so good for those who train troops regularly like in 3 hours or 4 hours. But good for those who don't have excess resources and wants gold this trick is a good way, But the best is 10% or 20%, mine is 0% though :)
02-10-2010, 08:38 AM
Dief

Quote:

Originally Posted by wootha

meh nice info
oh and the tax rate 0? i stopped doing that earlier this week... lost my 250+ att heroes cus of it *_*

I think you keep your tax rate as low as possible, while paying your heroes until you are at a point in the game where you have tons of gold from NPC farming and can set it to 0.

Get your gold from NPC's - keep the tax rate low to keep your loyalty high. Simple!