maybe you should b thankful they even offer something like vacation mode.
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Is the game biased towards those who pay? Umm.....yes! For heaven's sake, of COURSE it is! If it were not, you would have no incentive to pay. If it were not, those who did pay and got absolutely no advantage for doing so would be highly irate.
If you open your wallet, you deserve to have an advantage. That is the reward for doing so. Is it an unreasonable advantage? No, I don't believe so. I played the first half of my time on this game as a free player and I had a blast. I have spent a bit of money (mods don't get free stuff) in recent months, and while I have enjoyed the goodies I got, I don't think it really set me above the free players.
WHY THE HECK DOES EVRYONE SAY I SHOULD BE THANKFUL!!!!!!!! why should i be thankful for paying not to play, why should i be thankful that since i dont pay, if i want to have a simple vacation that there is a good chance someone is going to wipe out months of work on this game, why should i be thankful that since i have better things to do with money i get, that people keep insisting that i should be thankful for what these cheap o's do give me and that im the cheap and selfish one for disagreeing. im gonna go George Lopez style. lets all say this together
I dont NEED to pay for this game!!!
oh so just like everything else in this world, its almost never about how much luck, skill, or experiance you have, all you have to do is have a little money and 1 month and your set for life? your saying that people who spend a few dollars and have played for a week deserve more advantage then someone who never paid never will but has been playing for 6 months?
No, Carlos, and I'll thank you to stop twisting my words and purposely misunderstanding me. What I mean is that someone who has played for 1 month and paid should have a slight advantage over someone who has played for 1 month for free, if all other things (skills, time invested, alliance, etc.) are equal.
If you hate this so very much, you don't have to play. However, the whole way we CAN provide this free game for you is to sell coins. I think we've said that as many times and as many ways as we possibly can. Those who buy coins GET something for their money. That's non-negotiable. If you cannot pay, or choose not to, we will still allow you to play, but we are absolutely not going to give you everything the paying players get. It doesn't work that way, and your demands to the contrary smack of whining and childishness.
Bottom line: You got something for nothing. We gave you a game to play with no ads, no having to click this or sign up for that or promise us your firstborn. We don't need your cell phone number, we don't demand your credit card and start charging you if you forget to come back and cancel 12 hours from now. For absolutely nothing except an email address, we'll let you play our game for free forever. We'll give you gifts, too, in the form of an amulet that you can use to spin the wheel every day and get something that costs you absolutely nothing. Some days it's stone. Some day's it's a medal box. Some days, you might even win the cents that ONLY the paying players get. Wow! We'll let you become a "paying player" without making you pay!
Those who choose to pay a little bit will get a little advantage. They'll get some items or medals that you would have to work for or rely on luck to receive. And why not? They paid for that advantage, and in the process, they kept this game afloat that you play for free. They kept this game open for you! Don't thank us...thank them. Without those paying players, sir, you would have no game at all to play here. And we recognize that you, the free players, need these paying players to keep this game open for you. What's more, our free players would like upgrades and tech support, and new server software to reduce lag, and customer service and a forum to post on and a bunch of other things. So we need to convince those paying players to keep on paying. We offer them incentives to do so, and you ALL benefit.
It isn't a scam, it isn't a cheat, it isn't anything anyone has any right to complain about. It is ABSOLUTELY fair.
I have a different view, without the free players, there be no point for paying player to play as there is no free players to bash on. Hence I dont see why they need to be thankful. They are here to encourage more to join, and the more people the higher the chance of someone willing to pay.
So to sums up, free player come with some sort of goodwill.(if that even the word) lol
O and err, my post isnt about changing the system to be any fairer.
well well, i have finnaly found someone who agree's with my right to not be so thankful of what all the non paying players have.
you must remember that if you want the possibility to have more paying players you have to keep the whole, free and paying, happy. just like Dyne said, free players can be just as important as the paying players. and i do take offence to being called a whiner. a whiner is someone acting like a 5 year old saying "whaa i have to pay 30 bucks to get this i quit if you dont change this" if i was a whiner then how and why would i continue to keep posting long and reasonalble arguments that you read and bash on every little thing with total disregard for that fact that i may or do have a reason for saying it. andi think your straying from the point that my beef is not with the disadvantage that free players have, and yes i over-exagerated the dis advantage that paying players get. my beef is with the fact that (once again) ITS CHRISTMAS!!!!!!! and i don't know how many times i have to repeat myself so YOU can get it, because your just as hard headed as i am. 1 free package for everyone during a time of giving is all im asking for. and while you continue to argue about how people who pay deserve this advantage, not all of them are getting it. i have read posts and threads, and while people continue to have problems, you guys arent responding or you give the same excuse as you are to everyone else. "im sorry we are working as fast as we can to solve this problem" give me a break please just be honest and say "well we will work to resolve this problem but we cannot assure you when we will be able to fix it completely". your saying whiners like me are getting old, well im not a whiner because unlike them im backing up my beliefs. apperently foxy the both of us are on the complete opposite side of the evony spectrum of one another, because we are completely disregarding everything about what the other is saying, however, the diffrence is, that i know what its like in free world. while your enjoying all your benifits paying, you continue to try and make the game fair for those who pay, and while you say that free people get to play without paying, your basicly giving us hell down here in free world, and whenever there is a chance to make the game fair for everyone, whenever a free player like me finally steps out side the box and has the balls to finally stand up to evony and try and give some fairness in the game to everyone (like you continue to promise but in the sad reality you arent) including free players, we get shot down, threads closed, mod power misused (as you once admited you did), and players get banned or suspended. if we have the right to freedom of speech, then why wont people for once just for once set aside their own beliefs and just look at things from another point of view. i have looked at it from evony's point of view, but i still completely disagree with them. foxy all i ask is that you just decide to have whatever holiday cheer there is left in this era and try to for this one holiday, for this one out of hundreds soon to be thousands of offers just try to do anything you can to make the game fair to everyone free and paying.
P.S probably should have made some paragraphs o_o
Yes, paragraphs would be good.
Carlos, you didn't read everything I said. First of all, the first half of my time playing here was as a free player. I didn't buy a darn thing. And I thrived! I have been on that side of the fence, and I had no problems with it. My problem came from really really wanting some of the goodies I saw advertised in packages, so I decided to fork over a few dollars for them. Thus ends the "free" era and begins the "paying" era. I don't spend a lot, and in fact I give away more than I take for myself. But I have played on and enjoyed both sides of that fence.
As far as wanting something free for Christmas, I understand your request. The people who own/run Evony decided that the free gift was the milk & cookies and the ability to give bonus gifts to friends/alliance mates if you spent some money. That was their choice. Hey, even the paying players wouldn't have minded if they threw 1000 coins at all of us, but they didn't. I don't think what they offered is terrible, and yes, I do think that the non-stop complaints about it count as whining.
You want to talk about seeing both sides? I play AND I work here. I've played free AND paid. I've been on both sides. I don't think Evony is anywhere near the greedy evil entity it is portrayed as. I think they are very tolerant of people's opinions, and I think they give a lot away for free. It will never be enough to please everyone, so when is it enough? Giving an opinion is fine. Devoting thread after thread, page after page, to trashing Evony and complaining is not fine. At some point everyone really does need to realize that and stop defending the bashing.
I'm mildly confused about my Christmas Key. It's in my items list, says I have two of them, but when I click on them, it doesn't do anything. It just tells me I can open chests, but there are no chests in my chest tab. I remember opening some chests... do the keys stay after the chests are opened like a souvenir or something?
And I didn't get any milk and cookies... (I've only been playing a couple of days, though, so I may have missed them!) ::smiles:: Where would I find milk and especially cookies?