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As i have seen there is a lot of useless guide out there on this fourm so i've decided to make one
For one of all, getting th ebest city isnt hard but takes a lot of time converting
alright here are the layouts
40 lumbermills
17 barracks
8-9 cottage deciding on if you like a marketplace
1 rallyspot,feasting hall, beacon tower,embassy,relief station
btw it's better to convert a lvl 10 barb into this because you dont have to waste a lot of script
That's a very good example, just put a warehouse in there. You only need one warehouse.
it's not the best pic but i hope you guys think my info is useful, any question? just ask
nah warehouse are useless, i rather not waste space for em because there pretty muh pointless
This is not the right place to make a thread like this!Go at screeshots!
shhhhhhhhhh who cares its not a show off its a guide ! i take it your not the brains of the operation in your alliance :)Quote:
Originally Posted by parid
You like warehouses...Quote:
Originally Posted by Lord Ken Deathmarr
And you don't need one.
You need one for comforting, put food at 100 and everything else at 0, but don't level it up until you're out of BP.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheFrozen
One warehouse is advised, put 100% food storage and then if someone tries to take your city without the privateering tech you will have food to disaster relief every 15 min, This is especially useful when you are the only member of your alliance that is on or the transport takes a while. and if you are gonna make the "best" city, with 40 sawmills, why do you say a marketplace is optional? You will need to sell that lumber and buy some iron and sometimes, and this is maybe once every month or so, stone. I would suggest making it 20/20 ironmine/sawmill because half the time one is higher in the market than the other, but rarley is anything else even half the price as the server ages.
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Originally Posted by shadowfire omega
I agree, unless you have one city for lumber and another for Iron. I also think that a market in at least one city is a must and a warehouse in each one should be encouraged... that is unless you plan on playing 24/7 (impossible) or use a bot (against TOS and hope you get banned if you do).
Personally I think using one city of lumber and one for iron is better, that way you can focus on having valleys that are Forests for you lumber city and valleys that are Hills for you iron city.
Ummm.... you might want an academy in there too? Unless you plan to attack everyone using lvl 0 techs.
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Oh and with regard to warehouses...if you don't lose you don't need them.
i disagree with a bunch of your comments, that is because having a warehouse will just take up useless place. wouldnt you want an alliance that help by bringing food with em? wh isnt gona let the troop eat more then an hour which i think is pointless. about 40 sawmills - if you've ever saw the prices wood prices are always higher therefore you make more iron by selling wood. Having half iron and wood is pointless. it will only decrese in production because getting both valley wuld be really pointless. and also for marketplace , you should really have onnly 1 that's because i keep my cities closeby. As for having accadmemy that's a must!
....so u've decided to make a useless guide? Well done. Congrats.Quote:
Originally Posted by Godg
This is a good and short guide :)
You forgot to add academy there though.
And maybe add the pro and cons of warehouse/market and explain putting production to 0 before queueing troops.
Ok this one is gonna take awhile, but here it goes
First argument, READ THE POSTQuote:
Originally Posted by Godg
Second argument WRONG want proof? here are some pics from my three servers and a server I am watching for a friend on vacation in the Bahamas. ('Vacation' is his wives way of saying NO COMPUTERS) If you will notice, only one of them the sell price is lower for Iron, but in none of the 4 servers, is the buy price of lumber higher than iron. Don't try to tell me that lumber is ALWAYS higher than iron, I know what I am talking about, I play the market daily.Quote:
Originally Posted by shadowfire omega
I wholeheartedly agree, but I am the unluckiest guy the world has ever seen when It comes to Rose Medals, and I only have one city on most of my accounts so that I can make NPC's and conquer enemy cities, so I am kinda forced to have half/half due to the market changes in iron and lumber, but as it is, I can exchange half a days produce in both and gain a weeks supply in food, while still training massive amounts of troops.Quote:
Originally Posted by SweetP
EDIT: Due to the size limit and file number limit on this site, I will need to embed the screen shots, please bear with me as I upload them into photobucket, thank you.
EDIT: Embedding also adds to the limit, so only 4/post in the interst of keeping each server together.
Sorry bout the double post, only a certain number of attachments allowed per post, even it embedded.... here are the last 4
Just for that post, you can have +Rep..So true!Quote:
Originally Posted by Dserker
and as another reply to that, If you have never lost, you aren't good enough to be a target.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dserker
OMG WHAT A NOOB! LOL! 1 WAREHOUSE?Quote:
Originally Posted by Lord Ken Deathmarr
Your supposed to have at least 15 warehouses so you keep resources if you get plundered. DUH
Ken, I think you might want to read his signature and location......Quote:
Originally Posted by Lord Ken Deathmarr
I have heard of a tip that should be used in lumber cities and iron cities.
The tip is, in a lumber or iron city, you should only put 1 barracks or 0 ( recommended ), and you may have a rally spot, you surely need a market place, you need a academy with lvl 2+, and you may want an embassy ( no embassy also can ) , you 'MUST' build a relief station and feasting hall, no inn ( if you have filled ur Feasting hall, no problem ) and a beacon tower ( must ). And 9-11 cottages just in case you don't have any more people to work, and the rest, warehouses ( preferably lvl 9 if from a lvl 10 barb, one lvl 10 and others, lvl 9 or 10 ).
shouldn't that be a way to build lumber and iron cities?
no, you dont need any warehouses, they are a waste of spaceQuote:
Originally Posted by Lord Ken Deathmarr
For a lumber city that seems like to many cottages (9) to me.. unless u either
1) have a very high attack hero
2) are not playing much.
You could get down to 5 lvl 10 cottages in a lumber city and have a idle pop of around 9500, 6 cottages 15000.. that is plenty of idle pop if you play some what regularly.. if u needed to que up a lot of troops for the night or a day you can drop production to 0 and que up. I would say 6 at most for a lumber city and 5 if your a trooper.
(this is for 40 lvl 9 saw mills)
looks like you got 32k idle pop in ur screen shot, thats ridiculous imo.
i have a 456atk hero. i make troops daily : (
Get Rid of 3 more cottages then it will be a good city
even tough it already is :P
i wouldnt say this is the best. my best would have 40 farms not 40 sawmills, only because in my best i would have my best defences. so i would stockpile resources there.
in which case 40 mills become useless
but it is good. id go with one less cottage and one more barrack as well.. but thats just me.
40 farms are useless, period. On 90% of the servers you can still make more food selling wood even Without forests then you could with 40 lvl 10 farms and 10 lvl 10 lakes. On mine, current prices 7g for food, 40g for wood. 500k wood per hour translates into 2.85 million food per hour, as opposed to the rough max of 1.5 mil with farms.Quote:
Originally Posted by cushseth
The whole cottage/barrack argument is pointless IMO, as it all depends directly on your atk hero and play time.
yep......is good one but not the best............hahaha
you have the rt idea with barracks but u can take some of those cottages down for barracks if u have u lumber city. as it is ur war city too, u might want to include a stable in there. on the newer servers ive found the number of abatis ur cav take out is much higher with havin a stable. so unless u like endless clearing waves hook it up:) also i notice some people talkin bout a warehouse, "cmon man!" its a war city, if he loses a defense he prolly shouldnt have ported there. its made for wreckin sh!t:P