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    Lately there has been a lot of posting about being suspended for no reason.
    I believe there may be a reason why this is happening in some cases and that is because player actions are looking like a bot.

    Quite a few players have mentioned that they have a list of npc co-ordinates that they farm, which they work through in order, perhaps twice a day. This might be getting these players flagged as suspected bot users. I would suggest that to avoid this happening, you would need to mix up the order of your npc farming a bit more as regular patterns of farming may be the cause of suspicion in some cases. So if you are using a list of co-ordinates, avoid working from top to bottom every time and instead mix up the order in as random a way as possible. This may help you to avoid suspension.
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    What if your already suspended? thoes who have been suspended already lost 5 or more days and are still banned with no response from evony

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rodri View Post
    Lately there has been a lot of posting about being suspended for no reason.
    I believe there may be a reason why this is happening in some cases and that is because player actions are looking like a bot.

    Quite a few players have mentioned that they have a list of npc co-ordinates that they farm, which they work through in order, perhaps twice a day. This might be getting these players flagged as suspected bot users. I would suggest that to avoid this happening, you would need to mix up the order of your npc farming a bit more as regular patterns of farming may be the cause of suspicion in some cases. So if you are using a list of co-ordinates, avoid working from top to bottom every time and instead mix up the order in as random a way as possible. This may help you to avoid suspension.
    Rofl, like i'm going to change how I farm to keep from getting free holidays. Yes they're annoying, but hey I get to do other things during those 3 days.

    3 days suspension isn't worth getting less food because i decided to switch the order of NPC's, and yes food would be lost because I farm mine in a specific order to keep from farming the same one twice. Without that order i wouldn't have troops in my city
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    Rodri, I would hope their method of detecting botters would be more advanced. For example, I presume the bot is able to send out farming waves with much greater speed, and precise incremental timing compared to me. When I work down my list, I'll send them out at, for example:

    0 time
    +3.2secs
    +5.8secs
    +7.4secs
    +10.2secs

    depending on how much time it takes me to input the next target's coordinates and choose a new hero. I would expect the bot would look like:

    0 time
    +0.1secs
    +0.1secs
    +0.1secs
    +0.1secs
    +0.1secs
    +0.1secs

    Sure you could write a script or routine to vary the times, but that's something maybe... 1% of cheats are capable of doing? Sure it could be circulated among cheats, but you can still catch those who can't be bothered to use it, or don't know about it.

    Also, when my waves come back, it could be 1 minute, to an hour before I send it off again to do some farming. I don't know too much about the bot, but I'd expect it recognizes when one returns and sends it out again to farm the next one in sequence? Or is it just a one time thing? If repetitious, that would look blatant, from reviewing the logs.

    There's the real problem... I haven't played around with the bot to know its blatant signs of use, and considering Evony seem to have stepped up their detection practices, I'm not about to go find out. The only people who could likely confirm... don't seem to be talking because they use it and don't want to be banned.

    So I'm trusting that the devs have used it, decompiled it, and know all about it. If I were in their position, I'd be the authority on it, personally. I'd be disappointed if they aren't similarly minded.

    Like EvilDude, I work down a list, though if we were told the order is key in being accused of botting, I can easily mix up the order. I have a flag on each of my coordinates that I cross each time I've farmed them. You could get more technical and have the X record the time it was set from blank to X, and disappear after an 8-hour window but... jeez, that's more love for the game than I wish to show at this point. lol. Anywayz... below is my setup. It helps tremendously in organizing and reducing the time I take to farm NPC's. For all those using a bot because they don't think they have time to play by the rules... it probably takes me less than 30mins a day. That's not too bad (thought I confess, still a chore).



    Last edited by DCJerboa; 01-30-2010 at 11:32 PM.

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    lol most people who write down the cords have them in a certain order so it saves them time. I send mine out the same way each time. I do the closest 5's all the way to the furthest ones. then when I'm done farming those I do 4's from closest to furthest.

    It makes no sense in mixing them up just so you don't look like a bot.

    its a waste of effort and time.
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    DDNWORG are u from server 38?

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    I have no intimate knowledge of the bots either. I am simply looking at the evidence that is in these forums in regard to those who have posted that they have been suspended. The use of a spread sheet or list seems to come up fairly often. The repetetive nature of this may be enough to flag the account as suspicious and the initial suspension may even be an automated response. ( this is also conjecture)

    I do remember seeing a botter bragging (in these forums) that the latest generation of bots were able to mix up timing so as to be even harder to detect.

    To those who don't want to change the order of their farming list at all, for whatever reason, that's entirely up to you. All I was trying to do was find a reason why innocent players might be getting suspended.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rodri View Post

    I do remember seeing a botter bragging (in these forums) that the latest generation of bots were able to mix up timing so as to be even harder to detect.

    To those who don't want to change the order of their farming list at all, for whatever reason, that's entirely up to you. All I was trying to do was find a reason why innocent players might be getting suspended.
    from what i have seen and read i think its a combination of what your stating and timing of the hits we all know npc regenerate fully every 8 hours so we farm from one city then the next and so on so we are not hitting them exactly every 8 hours to where a bot should be ( i would think) almost instant exactly on time with the regeneration of the npcs or if out just for hero exp hitting every hour when troop regeneration is at full capacity thus allowing maximum exp
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    full troop regeneration is one hour, ky.


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