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    Default Marketplace price-controlling hack destroys Evony!

    Heya,

    didn?t know what to call the thread, but this will do. I dunno either if this is a known issue or if there are more threads about this, I looked around but couldn?t find any. If there are many of these threads already I beg of forgiveness.

    The marketplace in server 65 acts very strange. Every 10-20 seconds or so(it varies), "something" places new bids and offers automatically just to control the market prices.
    In the food section someone has decided that the price for food "should be" 16 gold ea. The bot or program or whatever then automatically places weird bids, usually consisting of 2000 000 units or less per bid.

    If the market looks like this:
    market_bot1.jpg

    In a minute it turns into this:
    market_bot2.jpg

    Then:
    market_bot3.jpg

    Then finally into this:
    market_bot4.jpg

    Then suddenly someone might come along and offer say 100 mil food at 16 gold each, and then the market gets "locked" there for a while. If you buy out all the 16+ offers then its back down again to 16 each in a minute or two again, doesn?t matter how many times you do it. I have tried sitting there for an hour or more only buying out the weird bids to try and sell my food at the price it "should" be at(which was over 30g ea about a week ago before the "bot" arrived), only to have the price plummet to 16-20 in a few minutes again.

    You can even trick the bot if you want, sell all your food so that the lowest BID-price for food is as low as you want it, say 3.02 gold, then quickly place 5 or so OFFERS at lets say 3.74g down to 3.69g. The "Bot" will then begin placing bids at between 3.02 and 3.69 gold, I?m pretty sure no ordinary player would think "Yeah what i kickass deal!" and place an offer of 1100 Food at 3.34g ea, when a few minutes ago it was up to 29g each.
    If you look at the "bot" offers you can also see that it always places offers and bids with 5 digits, like 16.823, while I can only use 4 digits, in that case 16.82 (sometimes it places even bids though, like 16.550 wich turns into 16.55).

    Same thing with Lumber, "someone" has decided it should be 60g ea instead of 30+ a week ago.

    This has definitely destroyed my Evony experience, I have been holding the no. 1 prestige spot for awhile now, and while I know prestige means nothing, that was my fun but this has made me not want to play at all.

    Anyone else experienced this? It?s easy to check if you just watch the market.

    Cheers,

    Lefnart

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    wow this actually works on server 3. its a bad thing but it works

    server 144 name : faderfade: alliance: STORM
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    My thread was deleted

    I was going to quote you the post I made on this very subject. There is apparently a new marketplace bot. You can recognize it by the large amount of 2,000,000 resource bids. However if more than one person is running the bot, then they will constantly undercut and outbid each other. It's very easy to manipulate these stupid bots.

    I got over a billion gold from a some of these bots when I moved the price of stone up past 18 gold and sold off a ton of it. Then I made them undercut each other to get the price of stone below .2 gold. I was then able to buy back all the stone I used driving up the price and all the stone they had on hand for just a few hundred thousand.

    I ended the session with over 900,000 more gold and almost 2 billion more stone than I started with.

    Embrace these bot users (do not embrace the bot) and take them for all their worth because of bad programming.
    Quote Originally Posted by Lazzzzzzzzalicious! View Post
    i started to read this and agree with everything rota says. if people just listened to him the forums would be a better place.
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    Rota is correct.

    I don't even understand the question.

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    Weird how they deleted your thread, this is a serious issue I think. I used to do lots of lvl 10's then sell the food to buy the other resources, but now it?s not a viable option anymore because of these bots.

    But well, I was actually looking for a reason to make me stop playing so I guess this is it then :P

    I did play some with the bots few days ago, and bought tons of food at under 5g ea, but then I didn?t have the tie to sit there anymore.

    This should be very easy to track, and many more people should have noticed this so hopefully for other players sake something will be done about this.

    Lefnart

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    Quote Originally Posted by TentPig View Post
    If you enjoy it so much, make so much money/resources off of it, etc, then why are you whining about it?
    I didn't whine. Posting in a thread with an OP complaint, does not make every empathetic reply a whiner too.
    My intent was to console him and share the bright side.
    Quote Originally Posted by Rota View Post
    Embrace these bot users (do not embrace the bot) and take them for all their worth because of bad programming.
    I posted to share what I knew with the OP about the topic of this auction bot.

    The only thing I QQ'd about was my thread on this subject was deleted. My thread celebrated the idiots using this bot.
    Quote Originally Posted by Lazzzzzzzzalicious! View Post
    i started to read this and agree with everything rota says. if people just listened to him the forums would be a better place.
    Quote Originally Posted by Dawnseeker View Post
    Rota is correct.

    I don't even understand the question.

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    I remember your thread Rota, as I read it with interest, so at least you get the Kudos for bringing it to our attention, as does Lefnart for grabbing those screenshots and explaining it in detail. Another element of Evony bugged and exploited. At this rate we'll have to go back to chess and other board games, where its harder to cheat. :|


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    I rarely go to the market anyway, making it a habit to demolish it, as I get all the stuff Ineed from farming.

    I don't need gold; I get plenty as it is, and as I don't know how to manipulate the market I don't try.

    I just farm like crazy, and before long I have more stone, lumber, and iron than I can use up in ten minutes.

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    Junis:

    Yes that is nice, but how much resources do you need to replace your lost troops? I used up around 300 000 archers + over 100k other troops farming lvl 10's, every single day. That turns out to over 400 million resources, where about 300 million of them are Iron and Lumber. Thats?s not easy to come by without trading in the marketplace

    Lefnart

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    that is pretty stange dont no if this is a bug or a glitch is it still doing this???

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alzar View Post
    that is pretty stange dont no if this is a bug or a glitch is it still doing this???
    No.

    It's not a bug or glitch. It's a bot. Did you even read the thread?
    Quote Originally Posted by Lazzzzzzzzalicious! View Post
    i started to read this and agree with everything rota says. if people just listened to him the forums would be a better place.
    Quote Originally Posted by Dawnseeker View Post
    Rota is correct.

    I don't even understand the question.

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