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    Quote Originally Posted by superccat View Post
    IF YOU WANT TO GO BIG, GO WITH SCOUT BOMB. They can take out enemy's archers without removing fodder. Scout bomb is currently the most convenient way to bring down a town if the victim is not smart enough to deal with it.
    The problem is, you're wiping out 100k scouts for probably around 30k~ archers per hit. If you can set up a scenario where you can hit the archers directly with a solid team of cataphracts/cavalry, you can do significantly much more damage. I've seen upwards of 250k (possibly 300k? can't remember) archers wiped out with a single 100k cataphract wave. Unfortunately I can't remember the cataphract losses, but they were the winning side.

    A major issue is, of course, getting the defences whittled down so you can strike the archers with the cataphracts (unless you already know some of the more effective manners of doing so), but IMO it makes for a more impressive battle report when done.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alusair View Post
    The problem is, you're wiping out 100k scouts for probably around 30k~ archers per hit. If you can set up a scenario where you can hit the archers directly with a solid team of cataphracts/cavalry, you can do significantly much more damage. I've seen upwards of 250k (possibly 300k? can't remember) archers wiped out with a single 100k cataphract wave. Unfortunately I can't remember the cataphract losses, but they were the winning side.

    A major issue is, of course, getting the defences whittled down so you can strike the archers with the cataphracts (unless you already know some of the more effective manners of doing so), but IMO it makes for a more impressive battle report when done.
    i have seen 90k archers 9996 ctas 1worker 1 warrior 1 scout 1pikemen take out 1.2millon archers

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    Quote Originally Posted by coold63 View Post
    i have seen 90k archers 9996 ctas 1worker 1 warrior 1 scout 1pikemen take out 1.2millon archers
    Your an idiot.. And should never advise anyone on how to attack.

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    Quote Originally Posted by coold63 View Post
    i have seen 90k archers 9996 ctas 1worker 1 warrior 1 scout 1pikemen take out 1.2millon archers
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    Having massive prestige generally means you are a great farmer with lots of troops but doesn't mean they know how to use them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alusair View Post
    The problem is, you're wiping out 100k scouts for probably around 30k~ archers per hit. If you can set up a scenario where you can hit the archers directly with a solid team of cataphracts/cavalry, you can do significantly much more damage. I've seen upwards of 250k (possibly 300k? can't remember) archers wiped out with a single 100k cataphract wave. Unfortunately I can't remember the cataphract losses, but they were the winning side.

    A major issue is, of course, getting the defences whittled down so you can strike the archers with the cataphracts (unless you already know some of the more effective manners of doing so), but IMO it makes for a more impressive battle report when done.
    i have seen 90k archers 9996 ctas 1worker 1 warrior 1 scout 1pikemen take out 1.2millon archers

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alusair View Post
    The problem is, you're wiping out 100k scouts for probably around 30k~ archers per hit. If you can set up a scenario where you can hit the archers directly with a solid team of cataphracts/cavalry, you can do significantly much more damage. I've seen upwards of 250k (possibly 300k? can't remember) archers wiped out with a single 100k cataphract wave. Unfortunately I can't remember the cataphract losses, but they were the winning side.

    A major issue is, of course, getting the defences whittled down so you can strike the archers with the cataphracts (unless you already know some of the more effective manners of doing so), but IMO it makes for a more impressive battle report when done.
    For a moderator you fail to see the economics of the fight. For one, when you reach high level fighting you are not talking about just a few waves on the enemy. When you use scout bombs you are also dumping honor on the person and gaining 50% back while having them receive 10%. Also you do not just attack by yourself but use group effort from several members to send scout bombs at a city. Yes cav layered with ranged attack can do well on specific cities with wall range cut and layers gotten rid of but that only works with an offline player. 1 abatis and some layers pumping and goodbye uber attack numbers. instead your little cav masterpiece will be wiped. On the other hand, throwing bombs with layers in with the mix and timed together will kill mass amounts of the archers and make the person get 10% for many attacks. That will kill the attack power of that person. Also, any who reinforce that city will also be getting back 10%. In long fights the only way to effectively wear down your opponent is to bomb with layers thrown in at proper times kill ats if gates are closed, kill 'bomb shield' troops to let bombs kill archers and to saddle the person with 10% heal rate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pal3Horse View Post
    For a moderator you fail to see the economics of the fight.
    Well, being a forum moderator doesn't require me to be a guru of Evony combat. Though I do have a fair idea of war economics.

    For one, when you reach high level fighting you are not talking about just a few waves on the enemy. When you use scout bombs you are also dumping honor on the person and gaining 50% back while having them receive 10%. Also you do not just attack by yourself but use group effort from several members to send scout bombs at a city.
    Scout-bombing is effective in its own right, I don't deny that; indeed what you've detailed above was common knowledge in my old alliance. But I wouldn't call scoutbombing "go[ing] big" in regard to archer slaughter. It has the benefit of bypassing other defences, which is handy in those kinds of circumstances, but it's not necessarily the most brutal method of strictly killing archers.

    Plus, the original poster was asking how to use cavalry and cataphracts. Describing the use of a scoutbomb isn't too helpful in that case.

    Yes cav layered with ranged attack can do well on specific cities with wall range cut and layers gotten rid of but that only works with an offline player.
    Well, scoutbombing really only works on offline players, too. Anyone online should hopefully be wise enough to at least close the gates or have the targeted city reinforced with a million scouts or three.

    1 abatis and some layers pumping and goodbye uber attack numbers. instead your little cav masterpiece will be wiped. On the other hand, throwing bombs with layers in with the mix and timed together will kill mass amounts of the archers and make the person get 10% for many attacks. That will kill the attack power of that person. Also, any who reinforce that city will also be getting back 10%. In long fights the only way to effectively wear down your opponent is to bomb with layers thrown in at proper times kill ats if gates are closed, kill 'bomb shield' troops to let bombs kill archers and to saddle the person with 10% heal rate.
    Agreed, but this thread is about cavs/phracts, not scoutbombs.
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