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Thread: why do we need more advertising with "Evony Queen"?

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    thank you everyone for all the feedback coming through on this.

    my rant and venting my spleen was not meant to be a discussion over the rights or wrongs of evony running the contest but a way of trying to get them to listen about sorting the real problems out before massively increasing the number of players through more advertising.

    i have sent support requests in and comments through the in game system and had no reply to anything. I started this thread to try to get ideas across to help the evony team sort out finaces. we all know the incoming money would help pay for support staff and servers. which in turn would help sort out the lag and crash issues we have all experienced.

    just to clarify a premium acct of $4 or $5 a month would generate $250,000.00 a month if only 1/10th of the players chose to take it.
    by giving a few advantages to having a prem acct, such as being able to que 2 buildings , 2 research . a lot of players would consider it.

    also we need to have a map sorted out so we can scroll across it. the prem acct could have more detailed map or diff map sizes available.

    this is a great game and out does a lot of the competition but the lag and crash will kill the game off for serious players.

    I just hope Evony staff sort things out before it is too late.

    enough from me and my ranting now
    cheers more beers
    capcanuck

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    Quote Originally Posted by capcanuck View Post
    kill the game off for serious players.
    LOL

    That line made reminded me of those Nintendo-fanboy Wii rants.

    Anyways, the devs have chosen to go with the free model which I philosophically support. If you want to start a debate about Free versus Subscription based business models then go start a thread about it, but, don't knock down the girls who are gutsy enough put themselves out there and contribute to the community, while doing it.

    Subscription based is the most safe & traditional, but not necessarily the best business model - I respect the Evony team for pioneering a contentially substantial free game and I hope their success will encourage others to follow.

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    i am not knocking the girls for the contest just saying that building a massive base of players through advertising will cause further problems when they already have enough lag and server crashes as it is.

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    I think my post will bounce from point to point a bit here after I read through the messages under this topic.

    First of all, I totally agree with KYLIE regarding how the "real world" takes a female and reduces her to nothing more than her physical appeal, and then judges her solely on that quality alone. (This is stereotypical and generalized, but extremely true...look at any "femme" magazine and you won't see "real" examples of women modeling anything, and how many women do you personally know that are 5'8, weigh under 120, and measure at 36-24-36?)

    My name icon has a picture, not a cute little anime image of a warrior or elf or some-such, and that picture is really me. Yes, I'm female, I've been told I'm in the upper echelon with regard to physical appeal, and yes - I play games online extensively (pretty much ALL my free time is spent engaging in online gaming).

    As with KYLIE's post, I enjoy online gaming because in an online game I am not "rated" or judged according to how I look...my status is solely based on my gaming ability. No one knows I'm female unless I tell them (or have a pic somewhere), and many games have cross-gender players. There are far too many venues in the world today where women receive boons for being female, or accorded higher stature because of it. This is grossly unfair, in my opinion. If any woman with an ounce of self-respect wants status, she should earn it the same way anyone else does...not flaunt her physical characteristics (i.e., tits and ass).

    I think the "Evony Queen" idea is stupid and a waste of time. The reason I think this is because there are already an infinite amount of problems with the game, yet they are advertising to draw in more players. This will only increase the problems that are not getting fixed now. Before trying to have promotions to increase the player base, they should focus on making sure the game is as bug-free as possible, to keep the players that are already playing. Otherwise, there will eventually come a point where they've reached a saturation level with regard to drawing new players, the game's bad reputation for being buggy will have spread like a wildfire, and their nifty little project will go down the tubes fast.

    Why don't they have the "Evony Camp Follower" competition, too, in keeping with medieval times when women followed army troops from location to location and acted as prostitutes? (*tongue in cheek*)

    Well, that's my fraction of a cent, for what it's worth.

    On Most Servers (Both Ages) / Playing Since May 2009

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    Girls who play this game are geek girls who are coming here to escape from a world that is trying to turn them into barbie dolls all the time. Don't betray us like that.




    This kind of statement is not true i've gotten to know a fe wfemales on here that are very beautiful just have alot of time on their hands because they are housewives and have nothing else to do!

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    Wow all i can say .. is where as the Fun gone from gaming? ... I am proud to be a female playing on games ..i dont need to hide my gender or anything.. and im good at what i do .. dont know the people u ladies met but all the men i have met have sweet and nice to me.. they dont judge me on my appearance Evony is not the only other game i play i play MU online , Oz global , and now this game. I am NOT judged on my looks i am judged on my person accomplishments and my dedication to my games, i always use female ava's or my own picture ..

    "There are far too many venues in the world today where women receive boons for being female, or accorded higher stature because of it. This is grossly unfair, in my opinion. If any woman with an ounce of self-respect wants status, she should earn it the same way anyone else does...not flaunt her physical characteristics (i.e., tits and ass)."

    I found this statement very disturbing .. for fact i like to be known as a female and i dont have to flaunt my physical characteristics to get respect for my gaming abilities. think mayby instead of hiding behind unidentify avatars while playing u might help make the people take women gamers more seriously but playing as who ur are physical and mental characteristics cuz that is who we are .. no matter what .. SO before u go saying woman like me who are not afraid to be themselves, are only getting credit cuz of looks, u better think again... I work darn hard at all my games with no or lil help from other players .. and ill never be a camp follower even if my as u said, my tits and ass are on display .
    ~*~ xAngelx ~*~

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    The thing is the mail they sent out explicitly said, and I quote, "
    The owner of the photo retains all rights to it. We will not use any pictures without the written consent of the owner."

    Ta Da... they can't even use this for advertising without the approval of the queen...now that is power

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kylie View Post
    Girls who play this game are geek girls who are coming here to escape from a world that is trying to turn them into barbie dolls all the time. Don't betray us like that.


    Speak for yourself...... we are not all geeks either

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    If we're going from a roleplay stance. In medieval times the QUEEN was not based on which was the smartest or best leader or greatest warrior. It was the best looking woman who was born into power and married the king. She was not looked at for anything else than that.

    If we were going to have the "Female General" of Evony competition I would say that this is very chauvinistic but if you look at the definition of a queen at the time that this game is set in this makes sense.

    Frankly I think people are being to hypercritical of this. It's just something to have. If you're a women and don't want to be subjected to being in a position of 'power' which in reality it's just an empty title based on your looks then don't put a picture in. I would say the same thing if the King of Evony was based on the attractiveness of a male. If you're a guy and you don't want to be the king based on your looks alone or think that's wrong just don't apply.

    This isn't something like the Evony team saying "The Queen/King will be voted on by players, please include a picture along with your accreditations!" And then everyone just votes for the hottest or best looking person instead of looking at their achievements. This is blatantly having nothing to do with actual skill, if it was there would be room for critique.

    Think about it like prom queen/king. Who's going to win or who won at your high school? My guess is that it was either the best looking male/female or the most popular, and that's about how much power the person who have will gain by winning this "Queenship", zero.

    Just my thoughts,
    Khan
    "The greatest happiness is to scatter your enemy, to drive him before you, to see his cities reduced to ashes, to see those who love him shrouded in tears, and to gather into your bosom his wives and daughters."

    -Genghis Khan

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    Kill this thread....

    The entire "queen" subject is creepy, tacky, desperate, and quite frankly doesnt belong anywhere near a gaming community.

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