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    I think that is what he is saying. They have a current game with paying customers and they are admitting straight out that they are not fixing the problems of that game because they are busy working on another.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SweetP View Post
    I don't think that is what he is saying at all merkader... he's saying that they are working very hard to finish Age II for Evony's current player base and the more time and energy they give to it the faster they will be able to deliver the long promised and awaited Age II.
    by your response, I assume that the current player accounts will be transferred to AgeII? Has this been disclosed? If accounts are transferred what will become of AgeI? If accounts are not transferred when will the problems on AgeI be addressed and corrected?

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    Quote Originally Posted by brutis View Post
    ICER412 i completely agree with you. i have spent thousands of dollars here, and to be honest with i have been a victim of the *** user over 5 times, and after a years of getting beat down everytime i started to get up i decided enough is a enough,so i had 2 choices either quit a game that i love to play or give into the *** and protect my investment. i chose to protect my investment. 90 percent of the players that use the *** buy coins. the only thing they use the *** for is to have a big enough army to protect what they have invested so much time and money in, so in essence if we protect what we have spent so much time and money into we get ban. i for one am considering quiting and so are many other i can take my money elsewhere where i will be respected as a customer. i would really love to see evony make its own *** and charge for it. which is the only real solution to the problem that both sides will be more than happy with but u wont because evony doesnt listen to ideals that will make them real money
    Well said, this is the only reason why many of us have chosen to use the you know what, since they censored it now. but oh well Evony does not care nor will they ever care about the paying customer. It is all a money thing to them and they know that even if we do stop playing this game that there will be new blood to take our places and spend the money that we have. Really it is like a never ending cycle.
    I will never play Age II

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    Quote Originally Posted by JLP13 View Post
    by your response, I assume that the current player accounts will be transferred to AgeII? Has this been disclosed? If accounts are transferred what will become of AgeI? If accounts are not transferred when will the problems on AgeI be addressed and corrected?
    I have no more information about that than any other player. It is speculated that Age II is an expansion to Age I, but that has not been denied or confirmed to my knowledge. Unless there is something stated otherwise in the Age II threads or game announcements.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sir_Duncan View Post
    Well said, this is the only reason why many of us have chosen to use the you know what, since they censored it now. but oh well Evony does not care nor will they ever care about the paying customer. It is all a money thing to them and they know that even if we do stop playing this game that there will be new blood to take our places and spend the money that we have. Really it is like a never ending cycle.
    Of course it is all a money thing...Evony is a business... just like Electronic Arts or Nintendo or any other computer or gaming systems developer. Would you go to work for your boss for free? No, you expect to be paid on the 1st and the 15th (or every 2 weeks, or what ever). Evony provides a great gaming experience for free and benefits to those willing to pay. I'm thankful that Evony, unlike many other popular MMOR's is FREE for those who chose to play without paying.
    Last edited by SweetP; 02-27-2010 at 01:24 AM.

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    Evony just sees us as $$$ signs.

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    Perhaps this is what they would have rather than funding the merger of lots of older players like us who know the game and are not shy about complaining. We have spent money here and feel somewhat invested in it. When I was younger one of my first gigs was as an assistant manager at a local fast food place, we had the word "turnover" burned into our heads. Evony is gonna pick up so many new people daily that us spending $100 bucks or so a month and only having around 500 active, paying players on our server is not worth the customer service when you can get 30 bucks outta 10k new players once and 5 bucks a few times on a new server without any service other than a "quest log" and launch em every couple of days,

    Merging is nothing more than a safety net for em. The real money is in new servers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dawnseeker View Post
    We have not made any major changes to Age I recently because our development efforts have been focused on Age II. We have incorporated a lot of player suggestions and feedback into Age II and more will be added by release.

    As for the original reason for this thread, I didn't see you actually deny violating the T&C anywhere in your post, so I'm not sure what your real complaint is.

    I think like him, most of us who violated your rules were basically forced into it by the gameplay that was allowed to burn like wildfire for a long time. It was a response to poor enforcement of the rules of which we are punished for breaking now. You guys do not really think we WANT to devote all this time and energy to the game and play the way we were playing do you? Victims of circumstance I think.. Could you guys atleast acknowledge that many of us were doing this in response to the players going ape shiz crazy with the haks and such?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dawnseeker View Post
    We have not made any major changes to Age I recently because our development efforts have been focused on Age II. We have incorporated a lot of player suggestions and feedback into Age II and more will be added by release.

    As for the original reason for this thread, I didn't see you actually deny violating the T&C anywhere in your post, so I'm not sure what your real complaint is.
    I do not deny nor do I accept violating the T&C.

    That being said, many people say that a 3 day suspension is a "slap on the wrist" a "vacation" so to speak. Well I accept your opinion and view point in the matter, however that is not the way I perceive things. My point of view on the situation is that I play minimum of 3 - 4 hours EVERY day and often more than this. When I have 3 days where I am not playing Evony, I am finding myself wondering what should I do. Since I am placed outside of my comfort zone, I find this to be a rather large punishment.

    In fact, since my suspension, I have been spending hours upon hours in the forums and hours on the beta test server. I have logged in an average of 8 hours a day on the beta server since my suspension. So, please do not assume that I am just enjoying the "real" life as though I am on a vacation.

    My post was not intended to place blame on Evony nor the players that play Evony. My point that I am trying to make is that I LOVE playing Evony. I would admit that I am addicted to playing Evony. How many people spend more than $1500 US dollars on a "free" to play game?

    Dawnseeker has pointed out once before that paying customers make this game free for all players. Well as a paying customer and a loyal one at that, I feel I am entitled certain rights. Not the right to cheat, but the right to a game that is dedicated to creating a fun environment and constantly improving game play as well as customer service. I have always encouraged players to purchase coins, encouraged players to enjoy Evony, helped players to understand that dynamics of the game, and even defended Evony in may ways.

    As I have pointed out in my original post, Age I is serverly flawed, and is known by all. There has been numerous talks about this issue and little attention shown to solve it. However, as per my last post (which was closed by FoxyBunny) I was informed by Dawnseeker, who gave a well written and very compelling post explaining their faults, giving a disclaimer, and explaining their intentions and future goals ( Age II will be the focus and where the problems will be fixed ). I have been testing Age II, and I found very few issues being resolved in the open beta test version. So far the promises of Dawnseeker, seem to have fallen on hollow words, and I will not condemn him yet. I have patience or else I would have quit a long time ago. But, to continue this heavy handed "crusade" where the people being punished, whether in the right or not, is to me appalling; when Evony knows that there are mistakes in Age I that they are trying their best to fix in Age II.

    So, I say... Evony has created issues in Age I. They have announced their understanding of these issues, and dedication to fix most problems with the coming of Age II. Yet, they will continue to set a precedence of hard punishments and negative criticism towards people in a flawed Age I.
    Last edited by icer412; 02-27-2010 at 09:51 AM. Reason: Grammer

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    DS, I hate to say this but the party who brings the claim also suffers the burden of bringing the proof. No one need deny, you must prove and infact anyone accused has the right to remain silent until proof is brought. To infer the absence of denial is an admission of wrong doing undermines a thousand years of civilized society.
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    You people sound like a bunch of tobacco addicts trying to file law suits because your lungs don't work properly. You're not really ****ed that your lungs are black, you're ****ed that you know you should quit but are too weak to do so.

    You know the game is sucking your life away. You're trying desperately to come up with a plan to keep from having to send out 12 hours of farmers so that you can spend 2 hours of fun. You've spent thousand of dollars (LMFAO!). You know the company administration is understaffed, incompetent, or both. And you know the bottom line is the game in its current state is bad for your health. And here you are trying to get Phillip Evony Morris to take you aside and say we're sorry for all of this. But you're really just ****ed because you know you should quit but are too weak to do so.

    You're never going to sue Evony for compensatory and punative damages. The only way to get them back is to quit .... but you're weak, so you cheat and then cry when you get caught. Grow a set of balls. Cheat, and when they catch you man up and accept the punishment. The best you can hope for is that the really do follow through with those repetitive threats to delete your account so your own weakness isn't the death of you.

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