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    Default ip/network sharing and sweep system.

    I want to know how foolproof and good the sweep mechanism itself is....I always believed its ok for 10 bad guys to go unpunished but 1 innocent person should not be punished....

    From the numerous posts in the forums I read I do believe that some of the innocent people/people who have used illegal means before but have quit now have also been caught.

    Regarding ip sharing i don't get evony's idea....i mean i share wifi with lot of my friends and we all play the game ( i did inform one of the reps regarding this)...but for the guys who are multi accouting can also do the same...i mean do evony reps come to people's houses/offices etc and check if there are more than one person or not?? a mutli accounter can send a mail to the reps saying his fake-wife/frnd etc etc also plays and shares the same ip and how can evony find out the truth then??

    one more thing about ip sharing...y can't I reinforce my friend or why can't we both sit down and coordinate an attack on an enemy?? only bcoz we happen to stay in the same house and we can't afford to have separate internet connections??

    I might be wrong...if so plz correct me...thanks

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    I would rather the police throw that crowd of people by the burning car after the football victory into the paddy wagon. After a few hours at the station, when it's sorted out they can put the guilty in jail and send the innocents that were just "nearby" on their way.

    I think it's better to minor inconvenience the innocent and get the felons off the streets.
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    i started to read this and agree with everything rota says. if people just listened to him the forums would be a better place.
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    Rota is correct.

    I don't even understand the question.

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    yes rota i get your point but my very question is how do you do the "SORT" in the virtual world and how accurate or foolproof will that sort be??

    I don't know much about networking but i believe same ip will show up for every system on the connection and only way you can find out is if you actually have the physical address of the system/PC a person is using to find out if he has more than one evony tabs opened but finding physical address would be like spying/ hacking which I am sure evony cannot/will not do. so again how do you sort real people sharing same ip and multi-accounts

    and how is it fair to a family that they cannot reinforce each other or attack someone in coordination?

    what you say as a "minor inconvenience" for the innocent could be a permanent ban when the next sweep is run

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    1) No clue. I'm not computer programming "savvy"

    2) It's perfectly fair to live with those restrictions so that real multi-accounters can more easily be caught. I am neighbor to a family of four on a server that lives within the "same household" guidelines and they do just fine. It's really not the burdensome to not get reinforced by 1 of your alliance mates because they are in the same house. All the other alliance mates can still reinforce.

    The restrictions sound far worse than they actually are. Their bark is worse than their bite, once you have a few months of playing under your belt.

    3) I have yet to see a permaban happen to a truly "innocent." If it does, it would definitely qualify as more than a minor inconvenience.
    Quote Originally Posted by Lazzzzzzzzalicious! View Post
    i started to read this and agree with everything rota says. if people just listened to him the forums would be a better place.
    Quote Originally Posted by Dawnseeker View Post
    Rota is correct.

    I don't even understand the question.

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    Default uhm..hi :)

    my bf is semi-mad at me for having our home-network banned from evony today. I have never notified staff about us being two persons (read rules today, hehe)

    But we've both been playing since server 40 and didnt think it was necessary. We're not in same alliance, we don't attack same targets (don't think we're in same state even... we don't use ****. We're both adults playing this game for fun (we don't harass or threaten other players either

    so can someone please confirm to me why I can't login to evony from my home network?

    my bf plays daytime from his wifi at work, so mainly weekends on same ip (I'm a proud housewife so I use home network .. constantly, hehe

    not a forum person.. hope this is correct place to post

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bala View Post
    I want to know how foolproof and good the sweep mechanism itself is....I always believed its ok for 10 bad guys to go unpunished but 1 innocent person should not be punished....

    From the numerous posts in the forums I read I do believe that some of the innocent people/people who have used illegal means before but have quit now have also been caught.

    Regarding ip sharing i don't get evony's idea....i mean i share wifi with lot of my friends and we all play the game ( i did inform one of the reps regarding this)...but for the guys who are multi accouting can also do the same...i mean do evony reps come to people's houses/offices etc and check if there are more than one person or not?? a mutli accounter can send a mail to the reps saying his fake-wife/frnd etc etc also plays and shares the same ip and how can evony find out the truth then??

    one more thing about ip sharing...y can't I reinforce my friend or why can't we both sit down and coordinate an attack on an enemy?? only bcoz we happen to stay in the same house and we can't afford to have separate internet connections??

    I might be wrong...if so plz correct me...thanks

    The answer to your first question is also the answer to your second question. Evony can not tell if you are lying to them and claiming a fake wife, daughter son, super intelligent pet hamsters that plays the game also. So when you contact them saying you have multiple players on the same network they say OK go ahead and have them set up an account but since we do not know if you are telling us the truth those accounts can not interact with each other. They can play on the server , they can be in the same alliance but to make sure you are not lying just to get some "legal" feeder accounts you can't have military contact.

    "People once believed, that when someone dies, a crow carries their soul to the land of the dead. But sometimes, something so bad happens, that a terrible sadness is carried with it and the soul can't rest. Then sometimes, just sometimes the crow could bring that soul back to put the wrong things right"

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    well.. these days everyoe has skype.. if evony staff wants to get it confirmed it shouldn't be very hard

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mary ann View Post
    my bf is semi-mad at me for having our home-network banned from evony today. I have never notified staff about us being two persons (read rules today, hehe)

    But we've both been playing since server 40 and didnt think it was necessary. We're not in same alliance, we don't attack same targets (don't think we're in same state even... we don't use ****. We're both adults playing this game for fun (we don't harass or threaten other players either

    so can someone please confirm to me why I can't login to evony from my home network?

    my bf plays daytime from his wifi at work, so mainly weekends on same ip (I'm a proud housewife so I use home network .. constantly, hehe

    not a forum person.. hope this is correct place to post
    I would PM this guy with the pertinent details under the "contact info" tab of this page...
    http://bbs.evony.com/member.php?u=12885

    After some correspondence about clarification of "same household" rules, you should be set.
    Quote Originally Posted by Lazzzzzzzzalicious! View Post
    i started to read this and agree with everything rota says. if people just listened to him the forums would be a better place.
    Quote Originally Posted by Dawnseeker View Post
    Rota is correct.

    I don't even understand the question.

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    *hugs* + a few more letters to get it posted

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaldath View Post
    The answer to your first question is also the answer to your second question. Evony can not tell if you are lying to them and claiming a fake wife, daughter son, super intelligent pet hamsters that plays the game also. So when you contact them saying you have multiple players on the same network they say OK go ahead and have them set up an account but since we do not know if you are telling us the truth those accounts can not interact with each other. They can play on the server , they can be in the same alliance but to make sure you are not lying just to get some "legal" feeder accounts you can't have military contact.

    True...Although it may cause some inconvenience to some real people it might be a valid option looking at the bigger picture of getting rid of multi accounts. Also I hope the next time when they run a sweep for multi- accounts they look at military contact between same ip users ....if yes then punish otherwise they should be left alone.

    Also not all people look into forums and stuff so I hope evony sends an ingame mail informing people of the no military contact rule.

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