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  1. #11

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    Evony can't take your money and then ban you. THAT is fraud. If you dispute the charges with your bank you'll get you're money back. From a different post:
    "Make sure when you do your CB that you let the company know your purchase of cent was directed at an ON GOING advantage in a real time MMO. This will allow you to CB for the full $$ spent instead of just the cent you had remaining. Think of it this way. You paid for those cent and used them in such a way as to give your account an early start which affects your gameplay for the entire duration of your stay in evony. It is a long term advantage you purchased even though the items are short term usage. The benefits stick with you from the short term boost. Your CC company will view this as a long term buy when you come at it from that direction. Im sure im about to get banned for telling you guys how CBs work so save this information to repost for others.
    (Im actually a unit manager at a chargeback office for Visa) "

    I am not the original writer of this so don't ask

  2. #12

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    Actually from a legal point of view there isnt a difference in banned for cheating and banned for nothing if you were to charge back based on your displeasure of the customer service. Notice they banned the guy that gave the good information? That is because they dont want people to know that this isnt fraud. They benefit by people thinking they are doing something illegal by telling the credit card companies that they are unhappy with their service and cant get hold of evony to talk about their refund.

    Not that I am encouraging chargebacks, because I am not. I just think people should have all the information they need in their hands to make their own choices about how to move forward.

  3. #13

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    Defender40

    Yeah , notice the guy that posted that is banned now and his posts deleted. That is shameful imho.

  4. #14

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    I got the account closure email too. about 3 hours before maint.

    Happily I won't be able to log on again. I'm finally free. ;-)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Defender40 View Post
    Evony can't take your money and then ban you. THAT is fraud. If you dispute the charges with your bank you'll get you're money back. From a different post:
    "Make sure when you do your CB that you let the company know your purchase of cent was directed at an ON GOING advantage in a real time MMO. This will allow you to CB for the full $$ spent instead of just the cent you had remaining. Think of it this way. You paid for those cent and used them in such a way as to give your account an early start which affects your gameplay for the entire duration of your stay in evony. It is a long term advantage you purchased even though the items are short term usage. The benefits stick with you from the short term boost. Your CC company will view this as a long term buy when you come at it from that direction. Im sure im about to get banned for telling you guys how CBs work so save this information to repost for others.
    (Im actually a unit manager at a chargeback office for Visa) "




    I am not the original writer of this so don't ask



    I copied and saved ^^^. I will be using tomorrow.. Thank you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gottibabe1 View Post
    Actually , there was a discussion about this before, and you actually can charge back because they're denying what they sold to you.
    No they arent and no you cant. not legally anyway. You purchased the items, Received the items and got the chance to use them. If you cheated and got banned Thats your problem. You dont pay to play, and you got what you payed for. Thus there is no legal grounds for a legitimate chargeback


    Quote Originally Posted by Frogdog View Post
    They cant take money from you for breaking their rules. That would be at the order of the court in the nation you are playing/paying from.

    As for your contention that they are unhappy because they broke the rules. That does not matter. Just the fact that they are unhappy with the service and can prove that evony is almost impossible to contact will get them the chargebacks. There is no fraud involved. You dont need fraud. As the guy that got banned for tell you this pointed out. All you need is to prove you are unhappy with the service and that you tried in good faith to resolve the issue with evony.

    I see in evonys future a ban for them. American Express , Visa , Master Card , Discover. They all have a policy that will kick in and cause Evony not to be able to accept cards if a certain % of the card payments are charged back. Im betting they are riding very close to that line now.
    How to put this. You payed them. You got what you wanted. You broke the rules. They kick you out. Now you expect to get your money back??? You couldnt even pull that off in a public establishment much less a private one. Its like going to a public/private bar, ordering a drink, Starting a big fight after which you get thrown out then expect to get your money back for the drink. Its not going to happen and going in and stealing the money back is Illegal and Fraudulent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brightfang View Post
    How to put this. You payed them. You got what you wanted. You broke the rules. They kick you out. Now you expect to get your money back??? You couldnt even pull that off in a public establishment much less a private one. Its like going to a public/private bar, ordering a drink, Starting a big fight after which you get thrown out then expect to get your money back for the drink. Its not going to happen and going in and stealing the money back is Illegal and Fraudulent.
    I paid for entry into a poker tournament at a local casino. I brought with me my usual stack of aces that I nickname my "b.o.t." Every hand I was dealt, I immediately replaced with 5 aces from my pile. Five of a kind beats even a royal flush, after all.

    For some reason they threw me out of the casino. They should not be allowed to do that! I paid my entry fee! I still had chips in the game!

    Just because they have rules, gives them no right to enforce those rules!



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    i started to read this and agree with everything rota says. if people just listened to him the forums would be a better place.
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    Rota is correct.

    I don't even understand the question.

  8. #18

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    I dont post much here but all the whining about getting banned for cheating is pretty funny. Some saying well I did not cheat much so I dont deserve a permanent ban. Cheating is cheating is cheating, there is no acceptable level of it. Good riddance in my opinion. Cheating makes the game unfair for those who play by the rules.

    Lol - seeing all these threads about chargebacks and whatnot I wonder if anyone has ever bothered to read the Evony Terms of Use Agreement that you agreed to when you signed up. If you try to do a chargeback, the credit card company is required to give RM, the owners of Evony a chance to respond. All they have to do is point out that you agreed that if you cheat then, and I quote

    "In the event that you terminate or breach this Agreement, you will forfeit your right to any and all payments you may have made. You agree and acknowledge that you are not entitled to any refund for any amounts which were pre-paid on behalf of the Account prior to any termination of this Agreement."

    In other words you agreed that if you cheat you are NOT entitled any any sort of refund.

    http://www.evony.com/index.do?PageModule=Static&type=TandC
    Last edited by mixmansc; 03-02-2010 at 10:22 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rota View Post
    I brought with me .... "b.o.t."
    Ok, this person just admitted it! Punish him!
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    GOTTI!!!!
    u been banned????

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