That is precisely why I asked for clarification. Dawnseeker seemed to miss that in his reply.
Is a past transgressor who now behaves and stays within the ToS still likely to get a ban?
THAT is what we need to know.
That is precisely why I asked for clarification. Dawnseeker seemed to miss that in his reply.
Is a past transgressor who now behaves and stays within the ToS still likely to get a ban?
THAT is what we need to know.
I was a past transgressor. I stayed within the ToS since my first "punishment." I still got permanently banned (one day after spending money to build enough to stay within the ToS, no less.) Reading through the forum, I'm far from the only one. I guess that answers the question.
What ever happened to fair go?
You get caught speeding, they suspend you. Do it again and it gets longer. and so on.
You do a crime and they warn and sentence to do time, depending on the severity.
Evony you have taken the wrong approach. You have acted way too harshly!
No warning, no second chance you just acted out of spite.
Not a real good business decision at all.
To most people Evony became a way of life, we woke up every morning yearning for our chance to socialize with our friends. You have destroyed something that was special amongst alot of people.
Sure it was cheating but to most it was just doing farming. Simple everyday farming that's all.
First time 3 days, 2nd time 1 month, 3rd time out would of been a better option. Maybe then you may have earned some respect. But you chose a very immature and ugly way to do things.
Dawnseeker I dont agree with the way you communicate with people at all and as a customer service rep you really do need to have a good long hard look at herself. Very poor performance my friend, very poor.
Companies that run games find that players who cheat tend to be repeat offenders, and that those who don't cheat have their enjoyment of the game hampered and some actually quit because of this, and tell the company such when asked. As a result many companies will not give players a second chance. Players who see the cheaters only get suspended for a few days in holiday mode don't feel that's fair to them as they had to feed their army while the cheaters got a free ride for a few days. The cheaters who got the free vacation, not all, but some, actually posted on the forums laughing that they got a free vacation and show no change in attitude at all. Yet you want "fair go"? Really? How many would see that as simply a slap on the wrist signifying nothing?
Want to prove you've changed? Start over on a new server with a new account without cheating. Costs you nothing.
But....the eternal ray of sunshine REALLY wanted to see you, so I helped brighten your day by removing the city from around you! ^.^
I used a *** and I got suspended for it (once). Fair enough. However after my suspension ended I never used a *** again and I just got banned! Presumably for the same botting for which I had already served a suspension.
We aren't asking for guidlines on how to cheat in the future! We are asking for due process and fairness. I have no problem doing the time for the crime that I committed even though like many botters the only reason I turned to botting was to keep up with all the botters. However what Evony has done with this ban is to re-arrest people on their way out of prison and then execute them on the spot!
That is the bottom line Dawnseeker and what difference does it make if you saw this coming? Believe it or not we didn't see it coming because of the pattern of enforcement and punishment that YOU had established as the norm and we are the ones who matter!
Evony owes us all an explanation for why the policy shifted so dramatically and drastically and in my opinion there should be an amnesty issued. Ban all FUTURE botting and that would be fine with everyone but to go from leniency to absolutism without even a warning is abusive and even many of the honest players can recognize that a game that treats people (even cheaters) the way you have is not a game worth investing their time and money in. Everyone be warned as it is only a matter of time before they decide to do something that you don't like or that you think isn't fair and then all your time and money will be wasted too. Welcome to the world of Evony.
First of all "the evony experience" is mostly about the friends you make in your alliance and you can't recreate that on a new server so please take your smug, holier than thou suggestion and put it where it belongs. In the trash!
Second, You are correct that most companies don't tolerate cheating but the problem here is that Evony DID tolerate the cheating! They tolerated it and tolerated it and tolerated it and tolerated it. For the longest time I resisted the urge to cheat but sooner or later even an honest person looks around and realizes that they are a chump if they don't cheat. Evony, and Evony alone, created an anything goes environment and now is trying to clean up their mess using the most draconian of tactics.
Third, even a mildly sentient being such as yourself should be able to recognize that many of the people caught up in this ban have been honest players who have been unfairly accused. What about them? should they shrug off all the time and money they have invested and just start over?
Like most real life problems, this one is alot more complicated than your black and white, one size fits all, lock em up and throw away the key approach to dealing with this issue. Enjoy dealing with Evony when you get screwed by them (and you will). Too bad there won't be anyone there to back you up because they all got banned!
Seems to be completely random - you can still get permanently suspended even if you are doing nothing that violates the terms of service. And good luck getting it resolved if you are innocent. And no matter what the mods etc say thats a fact. Whatever they used to do the sweep picked up people who were doing nothing but minding there own business.
I would seriously like to see some evidence that I was up to no good - because as far as I can tell its a load of manure.
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