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    Quote Originally Posted by Elite_s72 View Post
    Farming LvL 10's has nothing to do with the ***, also... if you're experiencing higher than normal losses... 1. Did your hero recently crest over 220 attack and you still have lvl 9 compass? 2. Do you have lvl 10 compass and a sub 200 attack hero? Either can cause Higher loss to 10's. The 40k is prolly due to issue 2. The slightly higher is most likely due to issue 1.
    I used 3 different heros, 180 attack on 1 lost 40k
    I use the same hero with higher layers lost less archers but more layers

    I used 200 attack hero vs 3 lost 15k archers
    I used same vs 13, less loses


    There is no pattern.

    I even tried using ballistas lose were still high.
    Not long ago the lose i used to recieve with my 200 attack now who was 160-180 then lose 6-7k
    Now even with ivory horn and defensive boost,morale boost, i still lost fairly high.

    Farming level 10 require you scout for lower heros to reduce alot of loses, the higher the hero inside the npc can potentially wipe our your entire attacking army, this happen many times to many players both skilled and not alike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by deadlysage View Post
    That still doesnt explain my banning. so the assumption still remain.
    I did not botted, or used any third party or hack program.
    I KNOW 100% I DID NOT USED THEM AND I AM 100% SURE THEN I WAS SAFE, BUT NOW I KNOW THERE IS A FLAW.

    You can quote that ban were for bottors all you like, that still doesn't explain my situation.
    I'm not assuming anything, I'm simply choosing to believe that the bans were legitimate. I have many friends that were banned, I have several that weren't. The ones that were banned did use automation software, out of the 200 people i associate with on server 72 and 130, 20 or so were permabanned, all known b.o.tters! No mistakes, no bs, but I guess mistakes can happen. Still that's no reason to spam the forums, and cry constantly. It's a game, give them some time to work on your issue, contact Evony using the Contact Us feature. Write a clear and concise letter explaining what is happening, whether or not you were sharing an IP, who you shared it with, and any relevant information rather than blasting away on any and every forum possible and creating hundreds more. Best of luck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by deadlysage View Post
    I used 3 different heros, 180 attack on 1 lost 40k
    I use the same hero with higher layers lost less archers but more layers

    I used 200 attack hero vs 3 lost 15k archers
    I used same vs 13, less loses


    There is no pattern.

    I even tried using ballistas lose were still high.
    Not long ago the lose i used to recieve with my 200 attack now who was 160-180 then lose 6-7k
    Now even with ivory horn and defensive boost,morale boost, i still lost fairly high.

    Farming level 10 require you scout for lower heros to reduce alot of loses, the higher the hero inside the npc can potentially wipe our your entire attacking army, this happen many times to many players both skilled and not alike.
    Again... this thread has nothing to do with this matter... also, you didn't supply your tech levels, its not just your Hero attack level that matters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by deadlysage View Post
    We suspect that the low level hero could have high attack, but the assumption that the level 3, 11,14 has higher attack then 200 plus compare to my hero, i highly doubt it.

    On server 88,90 and 95 we been noticing the changed for a while, and we have been actily trying to figure out, something botting don't do.
    I have notice that by adding layers it reduces your archer loses, but the lost remain high be that archers or layers.

    We know that the changed were very recent, because many of our players have 400 plus attack on 1 server, and even they experience some bigger than usual loses. That is coming from a player who has been levelin gup his hero from npc 10 for months..

    You cannot compare a defending hero with an attacking hero as they serve two different purposes, and defending heros benefit from more potential defenders than attackers do.

    For starters, this isn't the thread for this, and second, if you want to figure out what a defending hero can accomplish with high int and 400k warriors I suggest setting a city up as if it was a level 10 NPC, outfit it with 400k warriors and dump a hero with high intelligence in there and see what happens.
    But....the eternal ray of sunshine REALLY wanted to see you, so I helped brighten your day by removing the city from around you! ^.^

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ashanta View Post
    You cannot compare a defending hero with an attacking hero as they serve two different purposes, and defending heros benefit from more potential defenders than attackers do.

    For starters, this isn't the thread for this, and second, if you want to figure out what a defending hero can accomplish with high int and 400k warriors I suggest setting a city up as if it was a level 10 NPC, outfit it with 400k warriors and dump a hero with high intelligence in there and see what happens.
    No more experimenting for me...

    You miss the point..

    We have been farming npc 10 for a very long time.
    Most of our loses then were 6k to 9k that were fairly acceptable loses.
    That is with 160 - 180 attack hero with a level 1- to 13 defending.
    Now, even with 200 attack hero the lose is significant, ranging from 6k to even nearly the entire army. That does not explain the pattern of lose then and lost now with the same type of unit with the exception of attacking and defending hero's level.
    I know what your saying that it is possible that a low level hero could have much higher attack and attribute that can potentially affect the out come of battle.
    We are talking about 1,000 of level 10 npc farming with near or similar loses from heros ranging from 6k to 9k not 40k to even 80k
    This sudden change is a huge topic with many players with high attack hero ranging from 170- 400 plus.
    At one point i experimented with ivory horn i bought and some morale boost plus defensive bonus, the lost were slitghtly lower.

    OUR CONCLUSION: there were changed made in the past few months to slow progress of heros attian such high attack.

    With this ever adapting method we do, cleary is not a sign of a botters, we observe change as it come, and we adjust imediately to prevent further lose, any major lose is a step backward in our eyes. This is what separate us from others... There are many more players other far better then I with Evony, who have left, and when he left, he also shared more in game mechanic that most players don't understand without going through the experiences...
    Last edited by deadlysage; 03-05-2010 at 02:41 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elite_s72 View Post
    Again... this thread has nothing to do with this matter... also, you didn't supply your tech levels, its not just your Hero attack level that matters.
    My tech level were max then and max now.. what difference did it do?

    I understand the speed of the troops can also affect the outcome.
    However, i had captured level 10 npc long before and have great success with, only recently with the same max tech, only notice the change along with many other top ranking players from different server.

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    I have to say, I'm kinda tired of hearing people whine about
    being banned. I'm really tired of hearing people complain that
    they NEED a B*O*T to farm, or don't like the tedious task of farming.
    That's the game. You want a large army you have to farm
    constantly. B*O*Ting is cheating, it's lame, and it doesn't
    make you a better player.
    And what about those B*O*T defenders? You ever attack a city
    that keeps praying even though the players offline? WTF is that huh?
    You need that to play the game do you? Then you have no skills
    and should quit, or join an alliance that'll back you up. But don't
    come here and defend your cheating.

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    Quote Originally Posted by InvalidID View Post
    I have to say, I'm kinda tired of hearing people whine about
    being banned. I'm really tired of hearing people complain that
    they NEED a B*O*T to farm, or don't like the tedious task of farming.
    That's the game. You want a large army you have to farm
    constantly. B*O*Ting is cheating, it's lame, and it doesn't
    make you a better player.
    And what about those B*O*T defenders? You ever attack a city
    that keeps praying even though the players offline? WTF is that huh?
    You need that to play the game do you? Then you have no skills
    and should quit, or join an alliance that'll back you up. But don't
    come here and defend your cheating.
    I like that comment that botting does not make you a better player, it only makes you look big..
    ---Very good---

    It is not the size of the amry that makes you a better player, its how you used them..


    here is a scary thought.
    The real threat is those players who uses multiple accounts and **** at the same time.. then uses those heavy mechanic to attack.
    Again just because i said heavymech in this sentences, that does not mean all heavy mech users are cheaters now..
    There are many players who uses heavy mech and who can afford them.. in a way, those heavy mech is a cheat if your looking at the money spend to even get 30k catapult in less than a month otherwise it would take a year or soo ( just guesstimating).
    Last edited by deadlysage; 03-05-2010 at 03:04 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UUMMM View Post
    LOL VERY RARELY?? So it does happen? Hmmm Very Rarely do we put someone to death for a crime they didn't commit. So Now what? Suck it up and take it? Stop whining? LOL great response! That is classic!
    =)...............

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    The guys with Multi-Accounts don't bother me nearly as much as the B*O*Tters. If you have the time and inclination to run 2-3 or 50 accounts, more power to you. Make a whole alliance made up of just you, I don't care. I'm still going to whoop that guys *.
    I personally couldn't run that many accounts if I wanted too. Not only would I have a problem keeping everything straight, but how in the * do you find the time to farm? It's a pain in the @ss farming for my single account, 5-6 or more and I'd have to B*O*T. And incase you can't tell from my previous statements, I hate those guys. :P

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