What happened here?

[Hyena]

I don't believe that what I said in General Announcements was flaming either because it's true and I didn't insult anyone. And you should care about who is doing the job of moderator because a comedian can tell jokes but I wouldn't like for him to ran around as a FBI agent with a badge and gun.

I believe calling someone an idiot is rather insulting...

[AbstractAngel]

You wouldn't put people like me in as a mod because I would not accept the position. Plus I believe that we're all intelligent enough to put someone in place that would actually do the job right. Or am I wrong about that too?

If you believe any moderator has abused their power in any way, please send the information to Dawnseeker and Valkirah with any examples you can provide. Abuse of power is handled very seriously.

[Ghost101]

i kinda hope someone would reply to my 3rd post in here

[criplockin]

You wouldn't put people like me in as a mod because I would not accept the position. Plus I believe that we're all intelligent enough to put someone in place that would actually do the job right. Or am I wrong about that too?

You're definatley wrong. if we had the choice, do you really think we would put someone deserving in? Or someone we all like more? I think that would be a geneal latter half decision.

And wernt you whining in the G&A thread about jurnis getting picked over you for mod?(And then having Fb troll you with a hot iron...)

[Sigilstone17]

If you believe any moderator has abused their power in any way, please send the information to Dawnseeker and Valkirah with any examples you can provide.

But how do I prove if Dawnseeker or Valkriah abuses their power? What do I do then? What can any of us do if Dawnseeker and Valkriah get out of hand? It would like Sawnsea all over again, only much much worse.

[Brightfang]

While i can understand the feeling of being left out of the process for things like this do you really think the community having a say is the best choice? idk about anyone else but the track record of us americans isnt very good especially lately when it comes to voting and such (which is essentially what your asking for). I for one like the way mods are selected simply because it takes popularity out of the picture and selects those who actually deserve it.

[AbstractAngel]

But how do I prove if Dawnseeker or Valkriah abuses their power? What do I do then? What can any of us do if Dawnseeker and Valkriah get out of hand? It would like Sawnsea all over again, only much much worse.

If you believe Dawnseeker or Valkirah is abusing their power, please contact an Evony Team member with specific example (anyone in red is "their boss").

[Sigilstone17]

You're definatley wrong. if we had the choice, do you really think we would put someone deserving in? Or someone we all like more? I think that would be a geneal latter half decision.

And wernt you whining in the G&A thread about jurnis getting picked over you for mod?(And then having Fb troll you with a hot iron...)

So let me get this straight: according to you, we're all too stupid to put someone responsible in charge? I'm just trying to understand what you're saying.

I don't mind not being picked for modship, what I do mind is someone as.....You know what? I'm done having discussions about Jurnis and his modship. Now I more concerned with why the Management decided to completely ignore their community. We can't even get bigger avatar sizes, for goodness sake.

[wpack10]

I dont think that hes trying to say we should choose the mods, but rather have some influence in the decision.

i.e. Admin chooses x people whom he feels are deserving, and asks community out of those who we feel.

Or

Community nominates X people to be taken under official review for the position.

Something that still gives the people in charge the final say, but includes the community in the process.

[DCJerboa]

Sigilstone17... since you've put together a calm and thoughtful post on the subject, you deserve a similar response. The mods read many posts to try and keep the boards civil and within the rules set by those we report to. No-one reads more posts on these forums than the mods, in my honest opinion. Coupled with the time it takes to review the posts on these forums, Dawnseeker and Valkirah spend a lot of time fixing problems players are having, and helping them. It makes sense that you would see them posting less than other mods, because they have a greater workload. From what I've seen, I think both do an excellent job. There is more work being done in the background here, than you know. More than I expected. Mods are still in touch with the community, are aware of the problems players face as well as any, and are helping (voluntarily)... greatly.

As for Jurnis' appointment as a mod... I knew little of him beforehand, but he's taken to his role like a pro. It is wholey appropriate for mods, collectively, to select those who will work closely alongside them to enforce rules and keep these forums a friendly and clean place to read and contribute. Dawnseeker and Valkirah review our actions... yet more work for them. If I or Jurnis are not doing our job, or are abusing our power, we can expect to have our moderatorships removed. I get to see all of Jurnis' actions too, as he does mine. He has shown great tolerance for how he has been treated by many members so far.

As for Foxy... her workload is extreme, and her duties don't include policing these forums. If you don't see her posting much and having fun with us all, its because she's working hard on her other duties, to benefit us all. She's a trooper.

And before I get the "suck up" accusations, I'll clarify... I'm a member and player too. I'm here voluntarily to help the other mods, but have no need to compliment, and no gain from complimenting them. I do so because I've been given a greater insight into their roles and actions than when I was a regular member of the forums. I call it as I see it. They work hard, and are on "the members' side".

Personally, I think Jurnis' appointment was a good one. I'm very happy to work alongside him, and those who know me know... I don't say such statements without good reason.