Debate: Is man relatively Good or Evil?

[joemanf]

I say man is evil when eve took that first bite from the fruit of good and evil and persuaded adam into eating it that was treachery because she disobeyed god which was the first act of evil which made man evil

A-ha! I was waiting for that!

Yes, but do you remember who tempted Eve into eating the apple? The serpent, who some say was Satan himself. So evil originated from him with a silver tongue and a desire for knowledge, or so the Bible says. So maybe man was (and is) neutral? Maybe they can be easily influenced. It depends on which person gets to them first

Edit: Sorry if that was religious, but I couldn't help it. I HAD to answer that. Lol.

[KOOPS95]

Summary of entire thread:

We're all just curious lametards. Teh 3hnd

[raptor71383]

A-ha! I was waiting for that!

Yes, but do you remember who tempted Eve into eating the apple? The serpent, who some say was Satan himself. So evil originated from him with a silver tongue and a desire for knowledge, or so the Bible says. So maybe man was (and is) neutral? Maybe they can be easily influenced. It depends on which person gets to them first

Edit: Sorry if that was religious, but I couldn't help it. I HAD to answer that. Lol.

maybe...but is it not eve the one that listened to the serpent when god told them not to listen to him

[SunTzu123]

If you go by the catholic churchs stance then man is not evil. They just have original sin. Which was Adam and eves punishment not branding them evil

[raptor71383]

lol that shut us all up but im not catholic so i just believe in what i know as the truth

[Ghost101]

if we bring religion into this, we must ask ourselves something. Was Jesus born good or evil? obvious answer is Good. and Jesus was a man... therefore man is inherently good.... right

since jesus died on the cross for our sins, he takes the burdens of all wrong-doing we do since we are just players on God's chess board and are creating history as we go.

We can believe a certain religion where your are pre-destined to do "stuff" so all your actions. well they are not your actions, someone made you in a robotic form that is already going to breath a certain amount of times and live a certain amount of years. Therefore, man is just a pawn in the game of life between Good, God, and Evil, Satan.....


btw, we should probably get off the religious topic.... i dont think mods like religion being discussed in the forums. sorry for being hypocritical but had to make a point to the religion bringing ppl here


also i like this thread more and more, please have relevant comments to the point of the thread, other convos can probably be moved to PM or Vm

[Rodri]

Half the problems I have is trying to define what is good and what is evil because so much of it can be dependant upon perspective. Some people say that to kill another person is evil but then other people will say that there are exceptions to that and it all depends on the circumstances in which it happens. Other people will say that gluttony is evil but it seems like almost everyone who over-eats does so not because they are actual gluttons but because of emotional problems that they cope with by eating, or because of eating the wrong foods that give empty calories but don't satisfy hunger.
Or then there is greed but that seems to be difficult to quantify as well, because the person that I think is greedy may simply be successful at what they do and enjoying the benefits of that success and would never consider themself to be greedy. In fact, they may think that they are very generous because they are working hard to give their family the best life they can, while sacrificing their own desires to slack off or take off on adventures.

It is almost impossible to tell what is the true motivator for anyone's behaviour as there are so many factors that have to be considered such as history, state of mind, etc. I am not saying that no-one ever does anything wrong with the knowledge that what they are doing is wrong. Of course there are those who do bad things knowing fully that what they are doing is bad.

I just don't think that is the over-riding nature of most people. I basically believe that most people try to live a decent life and not hurt others at all. Most people, most of the time, if not trying to do good, are trying not to do wrong. But because we are not perfect beings, we can make mistakes and even make bad decisions. I just don't think that is enough to declare that people are basically evil.

[raptor71383]

in the modern world everyone has tried to think that theirs ways around this when theirs not he sees and hears everything we do and say even when you think hey i got that one passed god guess what....ya didnt....even when you think hey maybe hes not looking...he is

[joemanf]

in the modern world everyone has tried to think that theirs ways around this when theirs not he sees and hears everything we do and say even when you think hey i got that one passed god guess what....ya didnt....even when you think hey maybe hes not looking...he is

People are extremely gray nowadays. There's only black and white, unfortunately. However, we can't talk about religion on the forum. It'll end up in an infraction. Lol.

[imnothere]

well i finally made up my mind and voted and was amazingly shocked when i did, because i got to see how the poll was trending. yes i'm the 3rd vote. i always follow my heart even if my head says its wrong.
and my heart tells me that ppl are all good deep down. you have to dig rather deep with some ppl but i still belive its there.