Debate: Is man relatively Good or Evil?

[Rota]

Mankind is inherently good.
However in the pursuit of good intentions, we have justified great evils.


The person is inherently good, the crowd is inherently evil.
Sometimes we are the person, sometimes we are part of the crowd.

[joemanf]

That's... wow. That literally just blew my mind, Rota. You just showed me that it's not a homogeneous mixture with many shades of gray, but it's heterogeneous, with what you said.
Wow.

[imnothere]

you didnt see that man is never homagoneous??

[Tsubasa]

Mankind is inherently good.
However in the pursuit of good intentions, we have justified great evils.


The person is inherently good, the crowd is inherently evil.
Sometimes we are the person, sometimes we are part of the crowd.

I disagree with Rota here,the most evil thing is believing mankind is good imo
most people are evil,
if they get an oppurtinity getting away with something they will use it
if a man finds a river made of gold,he will look around if there is a second one
but thats my plan to end up in heaven,hell will be full so maybe God will say 'oo sorry no space left for you,I have to send you to heaven'

[imnothere]

thats the sillist logic i have ever seen, i'm sorry but it is. if everyone keeps claiming there is room for everyone in heaven then logicly there must be room for everyone in hell too.

[KOOPS95]

thats the sillist logic i have ever seen, i'm sorry but it is. if everyone keeps claiming there is room for everyone in heaven then logicly there must be room for everyone in hell too.

Since when has mysticism been logical?

[KwokYuen]

i thought man was born in sin

[Darkregionlord]

Yeah. All because Eve ate in the garden and Adam banged some things.

[SunTzu123]

Yudhishthira said: I desire, O bull of Bharata’s race, to hear in detail the source from which sin proceeds and the foundation upon which it rests.

Bhishma said: Hear, O King, what the foundation is of sin. Covetousness alone is a great destroyer of merit and goodness. From covetousness proceeds sin. It is from this source that sin and irreligiousness flow, together with great misery. This covetousness is the spring of also all the cunning and hypocrisy in the world. It is covetousness that makes men commit sin. From covetousness proceeds wrath; from covetousness flows lust, and it is from covetousness that loss of judgment, deception, pride, arrogance, and malice, as also vindictiveness, loss of prosperity, loss of virtue, anxiety, and infamy spring. Miserliness, cupidity, desire for every kind of improper act, pride of birth, pride of learning, pride of beauty, pride of wealth, pitilessness for all creatures, malevolence towards all, mistrust in respect of all, insincerity towards all, appropriation of other people’s wealth, ravishment of other people’s wives, harshness of speech, anxiety, propensity to speak ill of others, violent craving for the indulgence of lust, gluttony, liability to premature death, violent propensity towards malice, irresistible liking for falsehood, unconquerable appetite for indulging in passions, insatiable desire for indulging in ear, evil-speaking, boa****lness, arrogance, non-doing of duties, rashness, and perpetration of every kind of evil act,- all these proceed from covetousness.

[joemanf]

^ Please try your best to keep religion out of this discussion. I don't want my thread closed. Thank you.