Medal Farming on New Servers (90+)

[GrStaKa]

Question: When you say do not rescout valleys, I am confused why? Does it lock in the current troops/would the troops change every hour or so if I don't rescout?

Correct. Re-scouting while it is building back up will lock the valley down to X amount of troops until its recaptured.

Note to Guide: I have found a great secret that may apply to other players. The rare valleys that drop medals, when I attack them later they drop more medals. So I've began capturing the lvl 10's that drop medals, and attacking them regardless of troops stationed there, and I get a medal so far 75% of the time.

Thanks again,

LY

This is a great tip! I usually keep track of which valleys I hit that drop medals. It never clicked in my head though. I'm going to watch out for this.

Between both your questions.... ya Lets not go there .... least not here!

I've suspected that gaining prestige and taking losses increased medal drop chances for awhile. How did you figure it out?

Frankly, I was burning through a lot of time / archers on level 7-8's trying building my first town and npc land to farm in... The drop rate was real low no matter what I tried or read. I tried spamming lvl 1-4s, I tried 6-9's ... everything. People were saying that you didn't need 100-200k archers to farm effectively etc and I just couldn't see how you could sustain such a high attack rate vs such a low drop rate...

When I got to the point where I could sustain lvl 10 hits I, again, came up empty handed. I got frustrated and tried a lot of different tactics I found on different forums. Nothing really worked well. Finally, I went for about 2 weeks without getting any medals at all! I was so good at attacking the valleys by this point that all my attacks were all lossless. So I knew I was doing it wrong. Around that same time I found an old guide by Hodd's and I noticed that he was adding losses into all of his attacks so I thought I'd give it a go. Sure as when Harry met Sally, it all worked out...

Also how did you come to the conclusion that medals drop 5 percent of the time in lvl 10 valleys?

Well, basically the first thing that hit me was that I was able to call medals. Checking my attack reports I noticed that I was getting 2-3 back to back every 6 hours. Relatively speaking 5% is an arbitrary #. I could use the 6 hour link to literally call the medals I wanted, then fill in on other valleys in the mean time.

But, if I attacked 20 valleys and got 2-3 medals, I'm running real close to 5%. It always seems like I have to hit 10-20 to get those first 2-3 medals anyhow... Some times you get lucky, but really... I've attacked say 5-6 valleys a day for the last 5 days.. nothing. I set my mind to get some medals today and got 2 honor and a nation medal within 20 attacks.

Seems like its built into the game almost... You almost need to make X amount of attacks before you get any medals. And it just works out to a 5% rate.

[Grimlorn]

First of all 2 out of 20 is 10 percent. Secondly, I wasn't aware you were basing this all on personal experience and throwing out pertages of chance without documenting your personal hundreds and hundreds of valley hits. All the info like lvl, losses, prestige gained etc. This is misleading imo.

I do think there is a lot to medal farming that is unknown. But I've gotten the same drops as you have with farming the no losses way or just losing layers. Some days I would hit about 50 times and get 5 to 10 medals and then the next day I would hit 30 to 40 times and get like 1 medal and that was it. This happened a lot for me. Where I would have a good day then a bad day then a good day etc.

I do think there may be an increase to drops with more losses, but it might not be related to prestige. The more cities you have and higher your town hall lvls, the lower the prestige you get. So the medal drop rate would effectively drop as you went from knight to Furstin. I don't think this is the case. Otherwise people would have noticed the difference and there would be guides recommending you to stay around knight or baronet and do all the medal farming until you can hit Furstin.

Today I was using a civilian and lieutenant to hit a valley for resources. It was a lvl 9 forest. It just had swordsmen. I maybe hit it less than 10 times today probably closer to 5 and got 2 honor medals in it. I was just sending 25k archers. No losses. I've also hit several valleys on this same account and gotten nothing. I'd agree that I maybe get a medal 5 to 10 percent of the time with this account.

The other thing is I know for a fact that doing the capture and abandon method I can get medals 1 out of every 5 to 10 hits. It doesn't matter how long it's been since I've last hit it. I'm still going to get that medal.

[ImTheMan]

but the capture and abandon will not generate the same type of troops and it will not be lossless then.

[GrStaKa]

First of all 2 out of 20 is 10 percent. Secondly, I wasn't aware you were basing this all on personal experience and throwing out pertages of chance without documenting your personal hundreds and hundreds of valley hits. All the info like lvl, losses, prestige gained etc. This is misleading imo.

I do think there is a lot to medal farming that is unknown. But I've gotten the same drops as you have with farming the no losses way or just losing layers. Some days I would hit about 50 times and get 5 to 10 medals and then the next day I would hit 30 to 40 times and get like 1 medal and that was it. This happened a lot for me. Where I would have a good day then a bad day then a good day etc.

I do think there may be an increase to drops with more losses, but it might not be related to prestige. The more cities you have and higher your town hall lvls, the lower the prestige you get. So the medal drop rate would effectively drop as you went from knight to Furstin. I don't think this is the case. Otherwise people would have noticed the difference and there would be guides recommending you to stay around knight or baronet and do all the medal farming until you can hit Furstin.

Today I was using a civilian and lieutenant to hit a valley for resources. It was a lvl 9 forest. It just had swordsmen. I maybe hit it less than 10 times today probably closer to 5 and got 2 honor medals in it. I was just sending 25k archers. No losses. I've also hit several valleys on this same account and gotten nothing. I'd agree that I maybe get a medal 5 to 10 percent of the time with this account.

The other thing is I know for a fact that doing the capture and abandon method I can get medals 1 out of every 5 to 10 hits. It doesn't matter how long it's been since I've last hit it. I'm still going to get that medal.

The #s are abritraty. I stated that in the guide. They are estimates and do not reflect the actual #'s. Your being picky

Most guides state the actual medal drop rate is around 1%... I think you can agree that this is not so... Furthermore, some days you will get a lot of medals... other days you wont. I've been running 20 valleys per 2-3 medals consistantly though on a 6 hour rotation _on my bad days_. 3 more honor and 4 wisdom and I have enough for Furstin... I do not farm medals much anymore, just here and there for giggles.

If you wish to do your own research and discount mine... feel free to. Otherwise your not basing your counter arguement on much more than conjecture that your accusing me of...

[Asphyte]

Although mostly speculation, this is okay... You do seem a little too sure of yourself, considering a few of my findings contradict some of your ideas here.

[GrStaKa]

Although mostly speculation, this is okay... You do seem a little too sure of yourself, considering a few of my findings contradict some of your ideas here.

Thats fine. What are your findings that contradict mine?

It took me 2 months to get 5 rose farming every day. After I developed this routine and guide it took me 3 days to get the next 5. I need 1 more honor and i'll be a furstin with light farming. I am extremely sure of myself at the moment. I went from a stress case of "I'm never going to get these medals" to having enough to give em to my hero's for loyalty rewards cause I have too many.

There's some very key points in this guide. Like #1 Keep your feasting hall full of hero's. Time definitely plays an important role. The # of valleys you hit plays a role. There's still randomization in the whole matter but all of the points added up = a successful medal farmer.

My entire alliance has been using this guide. People have gone from... man another 7 more rose medals too... SWEET! 1 more to go!!!

You'll find your self getting _Consistent_ medals with this guide... thats why I wrote it. Consistency!

[larzford]

Thanks to those who have posted help on medal farming on the new SS.

I for one am just frustrated with evony to have changed the mechanics of the game as we are moved from one server to another - many of us have spent $$ and planned for a specific type of game mechanics. This is very frustrating as a player....the other part of this is when the merger was announced....there was very little time (a few days) notice to plan & prepare for the new server. We did not receive any notifications as to the changes or a place to seek out information about the changes once we were there. My suggestion to evony would be that if you make changes to game mechanics....make those changes to new servers(not merged ones) and not to ones where players working under one set of rules must adjust to new ones just to keep playing. I know more than a few players who decided to quit once medals stopped dropping from NPCs. This change made medal farming more costly and is an obvious move to obtain more money spent on the game. I'm lucky as I largely had all the medals I needed....but many others were not quite there yet. Just my 2 cents.

[GrStaKa]

in a little less than a month I've gone from 5 rose short of baronet to Earl. 4 wisdom and 14 justice short of Furstin!

I think at this point... why bother!

EDIT: ok enough gloating... sorry... its just really frustrating farming these things. After you get a system that works for you and you start getting promotions its like a huge weight lifted off your shoulders.

[stlkent]

To qualify myself: Server 8x I spent $60, got 3 junior and one med box to get to Baron, simply so I could crank out archers to farm medals. I dropped the rest my medals to reach Furstin, approximately 75. I've used about 50 for rewards. I just counted 263 medals I still have.

First, I didn't care about losses. I had x amount of archers to use each day, when they were gone, I was done. I let valleys in adjacents tiles, using a couple cities, mature to level 8 for forests and lakes, 9 for the rest. Using 1 minute camp time, or sometimes manually for each attack, I sent 1 pike/sword and 10/15k archers to levels 8/9, captured, then released before the next attack landed.

I found absolutely correlation of valley type to medal type. I also found no difference in medal type, or drop rate, from level 8, 9 or 10 valleys. Hero level, and type, made no difference. Certain medals definitely seemed to have higher drops rates, such as Lion and Courage, Rose the lowest, Justice the second lowest.

I did test level 10 valleys, and seeing no difference in any form from 8's and 9s, other than more losses, I just decided not to farm them.

There is nothing new about this, it's just an adaptation of other medal guides, just sticking to high level valleys. If you're not at the point you can begin to blow at least about 20k+ archers a day, you simply aren't going to be able to drop many medals. Focus on Exp'ing your hero, and maximizing your resource production so you can have what you need to make archers to farm medals, then start farming.

The overall drop rate I had, which was what others in my alliance stated they were getting, was about 15% - so 3 medals per 20 valleys. That can easily be done in an hour. There were times I went as many as 27 valleys between medals, but I've also dropped three in row, and had five or six in an hour a few times.

[mylove1827]

got nation medal on lake 10 by 100k warr.