Why Scouts are worthless

[LordShiv]

This is from a strictly defensive purpose. Scouts obviously have value for scouting and scout bombs. That being said for farming and building cities (cities where you keep food upkeep to a min), I've come to the conclusion that scouts are worthless.

To be relatively un-scoutable, a city needs at least 500k scouts and a good hero. However, if an alliance wants to get a report its still possible with a coordinated effort. Also the scout bomb / scout technique is effective against smart players who close gates during scout bombs. Finally, almost every alliance has a spy which means a potential attacker can send 1 scout attack and have the spy send the report. So trying to prevent someone from getting a report is pretty much a futile effort.

Now, consider the cost of scouts. Each scout costs 5 food while swords are 7 and archers 9.

In my experience the average city has about 200k scouts which is an upkeep of 1 mil per hour. For that price you could have ~143k sword or ~112k archer. Your city is less likely to be attacked with the extra swords or archers then by trying to keep someone from getting a report.

[The Real McCoy]

Personally I only keep scouts in a war city. Every other city 0 scouts which means someone cant tell if my gates are open or shut. As for scout bombs, I don’t shut the gates on them. I have figured a very effective way to deal to them that costs me around 12k of warriors to kill 100k of scouts. Killed 5 million of them for the loss of 600k warriors the other day. Was PMSL at the experience I gained for it at such minimal loss. Now I have to get rid of the 14million honor dumped on me LOL!

[YoGoSuN]

"However, if an alliance wants to get a report its still possible with a coordinated effort."

Right there...the point of scouts is to get a report, not just to defend from getting reports, but to get reports. There is a point for scouts.

[LordShiv]

"However, if an alliance wants to get a report its still possible with a coordinated effort."

Right there...the point of scouts is to get a report, not just to defend from getting reports, but to get reports. There is a point for scouts.

Isn't that what the first line says. The point of this is for non-war cities. Cities where you want to keep troop upkeep to a minimum so you can filter your excess food and resources to a war city.

[orakull]

Noob! Scouts are the best troops you can ever have.

[Kalent]

Scouts have some uses.
Primarily getting scout reports without using spies. Smart defenders don't close gates for scout bombs anymore, so using some scout-bomb psychology tactics do not work.

[nivi]

Scouts are the best troops against all for attacking. Scout bomb is the only way to defeat a city heavily guarded by archers. they are cheap and fast to train than archers. You can train enough scout to kill all archers your opponent can train in the same time.

[LordShiv]

Scouts are the best troops against all for attacking. Scout bomb is the only way to defeat a city heavily guarded by archers. they are cheap and fast to train than archers. You can train enough scout to kill all archers your opponent can train in the same time.

I disagree. I have more swords then archers in almost every city. Scout bombing is not an effective tactic. Plus a phract smack is a much better tactic to use for a heavy archer city.

[Cuffs]

Scouts are the best troops against all for attacking. Scout bomb is the only way to defeat a city heavily guarded by archers. they are cheap and fast to train than archers. You can train enough scout to kill all archers your opponent can train in the same time.

There are other ways to kill off a lot of archers, other than using scouts

[Kalent]

Scouts are the best troops against all for attacking. Scout bomb is the only way to defeat a city heavily guarded by archers. they are cheap and fast to train than archers. You can train enough scout to kill all archers your opponent can train in the same time.

Back in July, 09, that was right.
Now, it's just.. No..