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    Quote Originally Posted by Conrad_Jalowski View Post
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    Hopefully, we will be under the hegemony and sovereignty of a cognoscible, prudent, moderate, benevolent and virtuous philosopher-king in the Platonic tradition. The sagacious Philosopher-King of Plato would be the sole hegemon over the particular domain. After the preceding periods of civil discord, social disequilibrium, social devolution, political turmoil and the loss of political equipollence, the Platonic Philosopher-King would soothe the tempest and maelstrom of political division and tension. Under the benevolent suzerainty of the Philosopher-King, moderate law and civil jurisprudence as well as political equipollence and the self-autonomy and sovereignty of the individual would be upheld and maintained from a collective/societal despotism or collective tyranny. The Platonic Philosopher-King would be the allegorical or the symbolic representation of logos or knowledge/wisdom restraining the twin emotions and allegories of eros or of libidinous desires, lascivious urges and other primordial impulses, and thymos or of high-spiritedness and hubris.
    All other forms and models of civil society will eventually degenerate to a period of anarchy or a state trampled by the leaden weight of imperious and malevolent rule/sovereignty. Social devolution, fragmentation and disintegration would occur with the rabble as an ignorant and brute cluster and representation being driven and fomented to frenzied passions through the vehement words and the mendacity or the falsifications and deceit of demagogues. Such activities would result in a period of anarchy in which a once cohesive and united domain would be rendered fissiparous or fragmented and socially divisive. On the other hand, society would also suffer underneath the hegemony of malicious and wicked despots who would devour the state to satisfy their vulgar hubris and bodily desires. Perhaps the worst form of government would be a society maintained by despots and sovereigns easily swayed and controlled by their urges who would through their imperious rule combined with their decrepit and feeble minds ravish and sully the state. Such rulers and sovereigns are not fully human but are behemoths who grovel on the floor obeisant and suppliant to their passions and petty desires. May such despots groan in their cries and shrieks for these individuals would be the ultimate indication of a degraded society and would be the greatest opprobrium or disgrace to civil society.

    With the Platonic Philosopher-King, the gates of sensual and bodily passions and ecstasies would be barred with sweet reason triumphant over vulgar and bestial urges or desires. The elemental savagery and irrationality of human nature would be kept in check with the intellect and the passions of the soul triumphing over the putrid and grotesque assemblage of parts that represent the human physical form. The quick succession of moral dilapidation or moral decay on the societal or collective scale would halt as reason would dissolve the stygian fury or vehemence of the rabble and of general human nature. Periods of future lawlessness, anarchy and societal decadence would end as the licentiousness or the great fury and frenzy of the rabble of the particular domain prodded along and driven by ignorant and vituperative sophists, demagogues and other falsifiers and sowers of societal dissent would crumble beneath the weight of the benevolent and moderate Philosopher-King.

    If truly a philosopher, the Platonic Philosopher-King would usher in a golden age through the magnanimity of the soul or the greatness of the spirit. Therefore, the Philosopher-King of Plato would be glorious not through megalomania or hubris but through benevolence, continence and the acquisition of knowledge representing megalopsychia. Only through the Philosopher-King can humanity transcend and elevate itself from its vulgarity and baseness of character, and stymie its own barbarous propensities. Reason, philosophy, virtuous conduct, a magnanimity of the soul and aesthetic beauty all excite and elevate the human soul from its obsequious bondage to the daily constraints and decay of life for the human individual is not the corporeal and palpable form or shape but the incorporeal form or spirit within! Only through the intellect, aesthetic beauty and love/benevolence as ushered under the suzerainty of the Platonic Philosopher-King can the human individual comprehend noumena or the ethereal, incorporeal and heavenly forms of the Divine Will as opposed to phenomena or the framework of human existence with all its vulgarity and vice!
    I uphold idealists who hold such noble hopes, but I think that the world would have to be destroyed completely and utterly, and fall into a Second Dark Age in order for such changes to occur...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Conrad_Jalowski View Post
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    Hopefully, we will be under the hegemony and sovereignty of a cognoscible, prudent, moderate, benevolent and virtuous philosopher-king in the Platonic tradition. The sagacious Philosopher-King of Plato would be the sole hegemon over the particular domain. After the preceding periods of civil discord, social disequilibrium, social devolution, political turmoil and the loss of political equipollence, the Platonic Philosopher-King would soothe the tempest and maelstrom of political division and tension. Under the benevolent suzerainty of the Philosopher-King, moderate law and civil jurisprudence as well as political equipollence and the self-autonomy and sovereignty of the individual would be upheld and maintained from a collective/societal despotism or collective tyranny. The Platonic Philosopher-King would be the allegorical or the symbolic representation of logos or knowledge/wisdom restraining the twin emotions and allegories of eros or of libidinous desires, lascivious urges and other primordial impulses, and thymos or of high-spiritedness and hubris.
    All other forms and models of civil society will eventually degenerate to a period of anarchy or a state trampled by the leaden weight of imperious and malevolent rule/sovereignty. Social devolution, fragmentation and disintegration would occur with the rabble as an ignorant and brute cluster and representation being driven and fomented to frenzied passions through the vehement words and the mendacity or the falsifications and deceit of demagogues. Such activities would result in a period of anarchy in which a once cohesive and united domain would be rendered fissiparous or fragmented and socially divisive. On the other hand, society would also suffer underneath the hegemony of malicious and wicked despots who would devour the state to satisfy their vulgar hubris and bodily desires. Perhaps the worst form of government would be a society maintained by despots and sovereigns easily swayed and controlled by their urges who would through their imperious rule combined with their decrepit and feeble minds ravish and sully the state. Such rulers and sovereigns are not fully human but are behemoths who grovel on the floor obeisant and suppliant to their passions and petty desires. May such despots groan in their cries and shrieks for these individuals would be the ultimate indication of a degraded society and would be the greatest opprobrium or disgrace to civil society.

    With the Platonic Philosopher-King, the gates of sensual and bodily passions and ecstasies would be barred with sweet reason triumphant over vulgar and bestial urges or desires. The elemental savagery and irrationality of human nature would be kept in check with the intellect and the passions of the soul triumphing over the putrid and grotesque assemblage of parts that represent the human physical form. The quick succession of moral dilapidation or moral decay on the societal or collective scale would halt as reason would dissolve the stygian fury or vehemence of the rabble and of general human nature. Periods of future lawlessness, anarchy and societal decadence would end as the licentiousness or the great fury and frenzy of the rabble of the particular domain prodded along and driven by ignorant and vituperative sophists, demagogues and other falsifiers and sowers of societal dissent would crumble beneath the weight of the benevolent and moderate Philosopher-King.

    If truly a philosopher, the Platonic Philosopher-King would usher in a golden age through the magnanimity of the soul or the greatness of the spirit. Therefore, the Philosopher-King of Plato would be glorious not through megalomania or hubris but through benevolence, continence and the acquisition of knowledge representing megalopsychia. Only through the Philosopher-King can humanity transcend and elevate itself from its vulgarity and baseness of character, and stymie its own barbarous propensities. Reason, philosophy, virtuous conduct, a magnanimity of the soul and aesthetic beauty all excite and elevate the human soul from its obsequious bondage to the daily constraints and decay of life for the human individual is not the corporeal and palpable form or shape but the incorporeal form or spirit within! Only through the intellect, aesthetic beauty and love/benevolence as ushered under the suzerainty of the Platonic Philosopher-King can the human individual comprehend noumena or the ethereal, incorporeal and heavenly forms of the Divine Will as opposed to phenomena or the framework of human existence with all its vulgarity and vice!
    A Utopian Idea, to be sure. But can such a society as we are today truly reach that stage of enlightenment and revitalization of the core values of what would be the purest of conceived possibilities in the evolution of our presence of mind and will, at least, in such a small amount of time as 1000 years?

    Time is relative, but we've yet to scratch the metaphorical surface of conquering our baser, more animal and even vulgar, instincts in these years we've developed as a species. Furthermore, as a people, the majority of us have expressed little to no desire for such things and most who have only do so artificially and superficially. Should someone of such a pure will come into a seat of power over the human race in its entirety, than perhaps this will come to pass, slowly with other such ideal rules as the former's predecessors in a long line, but with what will? Few have true intention of goodwill without the promise of physical reward and gratification and until we can learn that the material reward is merely that, material, we've defeated ourselves unanimously.


    If things don't change drastically, we're heading into the future of "Idiocracy" or something very close. Evolution never stops, and yet I feel as though we have exponentially digressed from even our earliest ideas of a Utopian Society, which may not be perfect, is pure in ideals, morality, and very possible and reachable with only the will of ourselves and the achieved enlightenment of what we know to be less animal and more human.

    So where shall we be in 1000 years? We've two vague paths, and though in my heart I'd love to have Conrad's hopeful idea come to pass, I am pessimistic in mind at this point...

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    So now Conrad is an expert in what is to come as well as on what has passed? Damn, is there anything related to time that he doesn't know?

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    In 3010 the human population will be greatly reduced after the water wars of the distant past and the hit we took from a meteorite in 2750.
    The planet has changed greatly from what we once knew. The cities of the past are all gone and the climate has been altered a few times, from global warming to mini-ice age, from which we are now begining to emerge.
    There is no written history any more but there are songs and stories that hint at a glorious past gone wrong. Humans are just begining to rediscover agriculture, but have no real metal working skills.
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