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    Quote Originally Posted by Wildor View Post
    Whoa! I can see I ruffled some feathers here. I apologize.

    But I would suggest that Evony shall do as it sees fit, and that casting it's management in a bad light regarding it's treatement of volunteers is not exactly the way to endear yourself either. Why agitate to sow discord between Mods and the directors?

    You took offence at my presuming you were young. Fine, I retract that. I am also quite mature enough to make my own appraisal on the quality of my relationship with this site's directors, and really do not need guidance in the matter. As all other moderators here. Thank you.
    Let's throw a grain of salt in. I took no offense and didn't intend to make suggestions (re-reading I don't see where I did lol). I shoulda included more emotes? :P I wasn't trying to shed, nor speak of, Evony negatively. It was just an objective expression of my sentiment. That 'pay' part has nothing to do with Mods. It is what it is, and everyone's happy. That's what matters.

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    *Abstract the rant machine stands up on the soap box again* People time to get your beauty sleep!

    Quote Originally Posted by stlkent View Post
    I have one foot in the clouds, but the other is firmly planted on earth, so I'm part realist. This is a business, and they're pulling in some serious money. You could come with me to the food pantry or homeless shelter and volunteer. Become a Big Brother. Get with some non-profit group dying for help. What's wrong with tangible rewards when "volunteering" in an effort that helps provides tangible results - huge mounds of friggin cash....

    There's an attitude shared by a lot of management. Why "pay" someone when we can get people to do it free. Any suspect motivation seen in that? I'm not a pawn, or a sucker. I'd rather decline the gift, but I didn't need to. Games I played, I was able to get transferable items, and gave them away to the 'less fortunate'. In one game I got all the Mods together, and we hosted a monthly drop party, not only announced on the Forum, but I got the GM to leave posts on the games main site announcement section.
    Besideds, Dark Sider, I think the people who would find the Mods motives suspect will do so either way.
    First of all let me say how much I really appreciated you putting me in there. Don't know what I said or did to deserve it, but it really does make me feel "virtually" loved.

    I volunteer on the side, in fact. My job, friends and family take up much of my time, as does my work for an abuse hotline, and my work here at Evony.
    Back last year when I became a mod, it was made perfectly clear to me that there was no payment, and if I wanted to take on the role it was my choice if I stayed or left, and that there would be no change in the stance on payment. Back last year we had nowhere near the ammount of people we do now either.

    I don't think I or the Evony Staff expected as much of boom as Evony got with regards to people.

    Nonetheless, I can leave for a day or two with an emergency and no notice, and I don't have to explain myself or be repremanded. (Not that I often disappear lol) If I were being paid there would be more restrictions on me, and mandated hours unlike the casual "be on whenever you can". I would expect it. Because we are volunteers we are removed from "paid staff" and cannot be held accountable for any company decisions, internal affairs, or private information/disclosure. Sure we have rules and regulations, things we can and cannot do, but not nearly as much as would be expected if we received any kind of compensation.

    I enjoy the "helping" aspect, and being able to edit posts and merge duplicate topics. I like that I can make the forums generally easier to search, read and enjoy for everyone.

    Because we don't get paid, it's even more meaningful when someone like you comes around and appreciates all we do. We aren't lying when we say that your kindness is payment enough, we knew what we were signing up for and did it because we wanted to be a integral part of the community.

    Quote Originally Posted by StiticX View Post
    I have allot of experience as a forum moderator not for Evony but for other communities and from my stand point it's quit the "thrilling" job if I must say, it can be very rewarding how ever, it's YOU that keeps the forums safe and clean of smut and spam bots and it's YOU that keeps the forums up and running smoothly.
    You've got that! I've moderated forums in the past as well. In fact, this forum specifically I have been more open and active than any forums I've moderated in the past, which gives me much MORE to do!

    Quote Originally Posted by slanster View Post
    But all outa sudden I see serious posts : O Like a moderator thats born on the dark side, which kinda reminds me of darth vader for some reason.... can be serious
    You can always add a little appropriate fun to lighten up a post And yes I was thinking of Darth Vader when I said that, good catch! lol

    Quote Originally Posted by Demapa View Post
    I believe that this thread has now completely moved from its purpose....
    I think there are a lot of mixed opinions on it. At least there's no more rapping lol I platonically love those guys but I could see if it were my post I'd feel disrespected. Healthy debate about moderators and their role/impact on the community is a good thing in my eyes when it's constructive!

    Quote Originally Posted by Roisina View Post
    Judging from the comments and complaints I see on this forum every single day blaming mods for ridiculous things, I don't think I would ever want to mod a gaming forum of any kind. LOL. Kudos to all the volunteers who do it, I admire your patience and durability, I really do.
    I don't mind being blamed for ridiculous things myself, because they are ridiculous If someone has a legitimate complaint about the way I conduct myself, I take it to heart. Thankfully I have the good sense not to do so with complaints like "I hate you and want to eat your babies because you are a corporate pig who doesn't deserve to breed. Thanks for NOT fixing your programming!". That kind of stuff has no basis in reality and I can't take it all that seriously, which helps my overall sanity!

    Quote Originally Posted by stlkent View Post
    Let's throw a grain of salt in. I took no offense and didn't intend to make suggestions (re-reading I don't see where I did lol). I shoulda included more emotes? :P I wasn't trying to shed, nor speak of, Evony negatively. It was just an objective expression of my sentiment. That 'pay' part has nothing to do with Mods. It is what it is, and everyone's happy. That's what matters.
    I (personally) thought your original post was well thought out, and was generalized about forum moderators not just with Evony but everywhere. I think the way the conversation led it could have been taken as you saying Evony should pay us and how silly the lack of payment is, but I think you meant the role of the moderator on the internet as an all-inclusive entity.
    Wildor is a very smart guy, and cares a lot about the community. I have great respect for him and I think what he was doing was interpreting the posts as they apply to Evony. In this, since communication is harder with written word, I could see exactly how he would read it that way.

    Compliments of the wonderful Warsimi!

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    Quote Originally Posted by stlkent View Post
    Glad some of you guys appreciated that. Gamers gone to the Dark Side lmao Gamers going the cliche above and beyond to help their fellows gamers. It's sad to hear, what I just see as another mark against Evony, they give you nothing in return. Especially when the something would be something they claim is nothing - you know, per the ToS, virtual property.... lmao Yea, yea, satisfaction and reward of helping might be fine for you. It'd still be nice if they did something to show their gratitude for your work.

    Of course, it could be non-disclosure. 0_o
    How in the hell is anyone supposed to read this?????

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wildor View Post
    How in the hell is anyone supposed to read this?????
    Last time i checked we had these things called eyes....
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sWMOEVdXR2o
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wildor View Post
    How in the hell is anyone supposed to read this?????
    mmmm...

    I guess you read it the right way. It was a dig. I was trying to be light hearted, not outraged. I really don't have a reason to ingratiate myself to Evony, though. I give THEM money, not other way around. I'm not looking for special treatment. I'm just here to use the forum, and when I'm here I'm speaking to forum users. If I have something to say to Evony, I'll use e-mail. I keep reading around here they actually read them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AbstractAngel View Post
    I don't mind being blamed for ridiculous things myself, because they are ridiculous If someone has a legitimate complaint about the way I conduct myself, I take it to heart. Thankfully I have the good sense not to do so with complaints like "I hate you and want to eat your babies because you are a corporate pig who doesn't deserve to breed. Thanks for NOT fixing your programming!". That kind of stuff has no basis in reality and I can't take it all that seriously, which helps my overall sanity!
    Well yes, you got a point. Although, this place still looks like a hell of a lot of work. Especially since a lot of people seem to think that as forum janitors (that's what I call myself sometimes) you guys should have powers in the game. I can just imaging the pMs. haha! "Fix eet!" All I have ever really gotten accused of is ridiculous things and some of them totally bizarre, but thankfully I have a sense of humour. lol I could tell you some stories, very funny stories and actually some downright weird.

    One guy said to me once "I hope your boyfriend dies in a tragic car fire" because he didn't get his way. rofl.

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    goderators they are like agents from the matrix :O

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