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  1. #21

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    i agree with what Jadaxious said 100% nicely put Jadaxious

  2. #22

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    Please refer to the following thread for information on this subject.

    http://bbs.evony.com/showthread.php?t=106637

    Excerpt from above thread

    Quote Originally Posted by FoxyBunny View Post
    1) Use of a bot, even once months ago, or even for "a little bit of farming" or just for "auto-heal", will get you banned.

    2) Sharing your account information with another person so they can watch your account for you (when at work, while sleeping, etc.) will get you banned. We do not allow account-sharing. We do allow account-sitting, which is different and requires advance notice being given to Evony.

    3) Using someone else's account information to watch over their account, unless done as account-sitting and with advance notice to Evony, will get you banned.

    4) Having more than one account on a server will get you banned. I don't care if you got this one when your friend retired, or you only log onto the second one once in a while, or whatever. Have a second account that is AT ALL active? You'll get caught. This absolutely includes having a "home account" and a "work account." That would still be two accounts on one server for one person, right? It's cheating.

    5) Having filed a dispute or chargeback on a payment. Your account will be suspended until you have repaid the money you owe us.

    6) Having more than one account on a single computer/network/IP unless you follow these rules:
    -We do allow family members and others to share a connection. However, you must notify Evony that you have multiple people on a network and state who they are and which server they play on.
    -Players on the same network may not share resources. You cannot feed your wife's army. Sorry.
    -Players on the same network may not join military forces. You can't attack the same target.
    -Players on the same network are welcome to join the same alliance and chat with each other. They may be online at the same time, or share a computer. So long as the above rules are followed, you won't get suspended/banned for multi-accounting.

    7) Persistent violation of our rules regarding harassment, inappropriate naming, or other inappropriate behaviour. If you are one of those people who is the master of finding how to say dirty words in chat and get around the filter, send death threats to enemies (real life ones...not "I'll take your city!" but "I'll find you and cut your throat!"), call people nasty names, name your alliance/hero/city in such a way as to insult others purposely, etc.....maybe you should stop wondering why you are suspended and reread our rules.

    In regards to this Balzdeep you might want to read this from the terms and conditions
    Quote Originally Posted by Balzdeep View Post
    Again... My point is! this is not an enforceable rule.. It is a rule that is thrown out there to try and dissuade people from exploiting the game. But there is NO WAY they can enforce this rule unless they have a camera on your computer to see who is on.. If there are 2 accounts coming from the same IP they can not possibly tell if it is this same person. the only way they can is if they are in the same alliance and enforce that part of it. The only way this can be stopped is if they included in the TOS that ONLY one account per IP is permitted. NOW with that said SPY accounts are always going to happen and always will happen and there is absolutely nothing that anyone can do about it. so why not utilize that?
    Chapter 17 of Terms and Conditions.

    Acknowledgments.
    You hereby acknowledge and agree that:
    WHEN RUNNING, THE GAME MAY MONITOR YOUR COMPUTER'S RANDOM ACCESS MEMORY (RAM) AND/OR CPU PROCESSES FOR UNAUTHORIZED THIRD PARTY PROGRAMS RUNNING CONCURRENTLY WITH EVONY. AN "UNAUTHORIZED THIRD PARTY PROGRAM" AS USED HEREIN SHALL BE DEFINED AS ANY THIRD PARTY SOFTWARE THAT, WHEN USED SIMULTANEOUSLY OR IN CONNECTION WITH THE GAME, WOULD CONSTITUTE A VIOLATION OF SECTIONS 1, 2 OR 9. IN THE EVENT THAT THE GAME DETECTS AN UNAUTHORIZED THIRD PARTY PROGRAM, REGAN MERCANTILE US, LLC MAY (a) COMMUNICATE INFORMATION BACK TO REGAN MERCANTILE US, LLC, INCLUDING WITHOUT LIMITATION THE ACCOUNT NAME, DETAILS ABOUT THE UNAUTHORIZED THIRD PARTY PROGRAM DETECTED, AND THE TIME AND DATE THE UNAUTHORIZED THIRD PARTY PROGRAM WAS DETECTED; AND/OR (b) EXERCISE ANY OR ALL OF ITS RIGHTS UNDER THIS AGREEMENT OR THE EULA, WITH OR WITHOUT PRIOR NOTICE TO THE USER.
    WHEN THE GAME IS RUNNING, REGAN MERCANTILE US, LLC MAY OBTAIN CERTAIN IDENTIFICATION INFORMATION ABOUT YOUR COMPUTER AND ITS OPERATING SYSTEM, INCLUDING WITHOUT LIMITATION YOUR HARD DRIVES, CENTRAL PROCESSING UNIT, IP ADDRESS(ES) AND OPERATING SYSTEM(S), FOR PURPOSES OF IMPROVING THE GAME AND/OR THE SERVICE, AND TO POLICE AND ENFORCE THE PROVISIONS OF THIS AGREEMENT AND THE EULA.
    REGAN MERCANTILE US, LLC may, with or without notice to you, disclose your Internet Protocol (IP) address(es), personal information, Chat logs, and other information about you and your activities: (a) in response to a request by law enforcement, a court order or other legal process; or (b) if REGAN MERCANTILE US, LLC believes that doing so may protect your safety or the safety of others.
    REGAN MERCANTILE US, LLC MAY MONITOR, RECORD, REVIEW, MODIFY AND/OR DISCLOSE YOUR CHAT SESSIONS, WHETHER VOICE OR TEXT, WITHOUT NOTICE TO YOU, AND YOU HEREBY CONSENT TO SUCH MONITORING, RECORDING, REVIEW, MODIFICATION AND/OR DISCLOSURE. Additionally, you acknowledge that REGAN MERCANTILE US, LLC is under no obligation to monitor Chat, and you engage in Chat at your own risk.
    You are wholly responsible for the cost of all telephone and Internet access charges along with all necessary equipment, servicing, repair or correction incurred in maintaining connectivity to the Servers.
    Last edited by Eolithic; 04-08-2010 at 05:04 AM.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rota View Post
    I'm a MAJOR nerd in the real world. If I signed up on facebook, I would still have no RL friends to help me get these benefits.

  3. #23

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    and BINGO was his NAMEOOOOOOOOOOOOO

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jadaxious View Post
    We are not discussing husband and wife teams. We are discussing the creation of multiple accounts by the SAME person for the purposes of spying on another alliance.



    Jadaxious
    ...but I'd like to to know how on earth they can determine which accounts are genuine family member accounts and which are not?

    I'm sure many members live in boarding houses or hotels and share the same IP address. What happens then?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ekwarpa View Post
    ...but I'd like to to know how on earth they can determine which accounts are genuine family member accounts and which are not?

    I'm sure many members live in boarding houses or hotels and share the same IP address. What happens then?
    read rule 6

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    Quote Originally Posted by TCWNME View Post
    Because whether they can enforce this rule or not its still cheating if you decide to do it.
    Grrrr The word Cheating implies " Consequence for an inappropriate action" The word Immoral is more appropriate here as there is, and will never be, consequences other than your higher power somehow punishing you in the after life. And since we cant punish those doing it.. lets stop calling it cheating. Unless that is how you need to justify it. At the end of the day it is happening and will never stop. whether you own an alternate account or you get intelliegence from someone else the end result is you STILL get the intelligence! So back to my original topic.. Is spying illegal? because if it is.. then it should be illegal for everyone regardless of if it is 2nd hand or 1st hand information, and if it is try enforcing that rule.

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    That's nuts - It'll never work.

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    And in regards to my post above .. yes all in game activity is logged ... and it can be traced that you are sending resources troops etc between accounts.

    This has been stated in previous threads by Evony Reps

    Quote Originally Posted by Rota View Post
    I'm a MAJOR nerd in the real world. If I signed up on facebook, I would still have no RL friends to help me get these benefits.

  9. #29

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eolithic View Post

    Acknowledgments.
    You hereby acknowledge and agree that:
    WHEN RUNNING, THE GAME MAY MONITOR YOUR COMPUTER'S RANDOM ACCESS MEMORY (RAM) AND/OR CPU PROCESSES FOR UNAUTHORIZED THIRD PARTY PROGRAMS RUNNING CONCURRENTLY WITH EVONY. AN "UNAUTHORIZED THIRD PARTY PROGRAM" AS USED HEREIN SHALL BE DEFINED AS ANY THIRD PARTY SOFTWARE THAT, WHEN USED SIMULTANEOUSLY OR IN CONNECTION WITH THE GAME, WOULD CONSTITUTE A VIOLATION OF SECTIONS 1, 2 OR 9. IN THE EVENT THAT THE GAME DETECTS AN UNAUTHORIZED THIRD PARTY PROGRAM, REGAN MERCANTILE US, LLC MAY (a) COMMUNICATE INFORMATION BACK TO REGAN MERCANTILE US, LLC, INCLUDING WITHOUT LIMITATION THE ACCOUNT NAME, DETAILS ABOUT THE UNAUTHORIZED THIRD PARTY PROGRAM DETECTED, AND THE TIME AND DATE THE UNAUTHORIZED THIRD PARTY PROGRAM WAS DETECTED; AND/OR (b) EXERCISE ANY OR ALL OF ITS RIGHTS UNDER THIS AGREEMENT OR THE EULA, WITH OR WITHOUT PRIOR NOTICE TO THE USER.
    WHEN THE GAME IS RUNNING, REGAN MERCANTILE US, LLC MAY OBTAIN CERTAIN IDENTIFICATION INFORMATION ABOUT YOUR COMPUTER AND ITS OPERATING SYSTEM, INCLUDING WITHOUT LIMITATION YOUR HARD DRIVES, CENTRAL PROCESSING UNIT, IP ADDRESS(ES) AND OPERATING SYSTEM(S), FOR PURPOSES OF IMPROVING THE GAME AND/OR THE SERVICE, AND TO POLICE AND ENFORCE THE PROVISIONS OF THIS AGREEMENT AND THE EULA.
    REGAN MERCANTILE US, LLC may, with or without notice to you, disclose your Internet Protocol (IP) address(es), personal information, Chat logs, and other information about you and your activities: (a) in response to a request by law enforcement, a court order or other legal process; or (b) if REGAN MERCANTILE US, LLC believes that doing so may protect your safety or the safety of others.
    REGAN MERCANTILE US, LLC MAY MONITOR, RECORD, REVIEW, MODIFY AND/OR DISCLOSE YOUR CHAT SESSIONS, WHETHER VOICE OR TEXT, WITHOUT NOTICE TO YOU, AND YOU HEREBY CONSENT TO SUCH MONITORING, RECORDING, REVIEW, MODIFICATION AND/OR DISCLOSURE. Additionally, you acknowledge that REGAN MERCANTILE US, LLC is under no obligation to monitor Chat, and you engage in Chat at your own risk.
    You are wholly responsible for the cost of all telephone and Internet access charges along with all necessary equipment, servicing, repair or correction incurred in maintaining connectivity to the Servers.
    Just because I say I'm allowed to stab someone, doesn't mean that I am allowed to stab someone...

    On the topic of spies, as long as they are legitimate accounts and not multis, I see no problems. It's all in fun and games.

    Spies are just there to go back to the alliance they serve and say "these guys are monsters, if they port in, you'd better port out."
    This has been a very serious message by a very silly Malafae.

    Malafae, A state of independance - Server 3
    Joriinata, Rapture's Goddess of War - Server SS15

  10. #30

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    Balzdeep seems you missed what i said in the first 2 comments to you, about party or bank robbing or someone being a spy for another alliance and is in your alliance giving his/her alliance intel you dont want out... look at it this way, say a spy is in your alliance, his/her alliance wants to find out if you are online or not, they tell them no you are not, then all of a sudden your cities are under attack and they end up taking 1, 2, 3, maybe all but 1 of your cities, you come back online and see this, all you can do is complain, get ****ed off, now would you like that to happen to you? No i dont think so, so yes spying is considered cheating to alot of people

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